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Expected to be drafted in the first round, WR Sammy Watkins might have sent out a message as to where he desires to be drafted.
The Cleveland Browns have two first round picks, No. 4 and No. 26 in the 2014 NFL Draft.
Watkins is considered the best receiver and the pairing of him and Josh Gordon could be a lethal combination.
Watkins posted a picture to his instagram of himself in a Browns uniform.
Now, they still have that problem of who is going to throw to them…
Sammy Watkins Post Picture of Himself in a Browns Uniform
He was posting stuff about himself in Lions gear as well.
Yeah I figured he would probably be doing this with all the teams drafting high. Good for him showing enthusiasm to play for any team, though.
At 26 ok, at 4 no thanks
I also think doing this will haunt him in the future. It will be used as fodder against him at some point.
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Good for him showing enthusiasm to play for any team, though.
No, it's all about the money. The higher you get drafted...
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At 26 ok, at 4 no thanks
I also think doing this will haunt him in the future. It will be used as fodder against him at some point.
At 26? Nice dream world.
JC
Running off the fact if Cinci matches our offer and we lose out on Hawkins. Also, we don't draft a QB, then I am all for Watkins. That wouldn't be too bad a thought with Gordon, Watkins and whoever else, I guess Greg Little. Who covers Jordan Cameron then? Who do you double team - Watkins or Josh? Who do you wanna throw the ball more to against single coverage if you were Hoyer/whoever?
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At 26 ok, at 4 no thanks
I also think doing this will haunt him in the future. It will be used as fodder against him at some point.
At 26? Nice dream world.
I'd take him at 4... at 26 I'd wonder what was wrong with him.
If Bortles isn't there at 4 and Sammy is, I take Sammy and never look back. Even if Teddy is still on the board.
Watkins would be one heck of a weapon, opposite Gordon.
Think about the effect Watkins and Gordon would have on the running game...no more crowding the LOS to shut down the run.
It is a very deep WR class with over 20 wrs projected to be drafted in the first 5 rounds. If the Browns don't draft Watkins they can still pick up a good prospect in one of the later rounds.
I wouldn't be upset a bit if we took him.
Big, fast Gordon. A strong fighter for the ball in Watkins, Cameron, the Bengals dude in the slot (possibly). Throw in Ben Tate and another RB.
Hoyer shouldn't fail with that group. Draft Jimmy G or McCarron later.
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I wouldn't be upset a bit if we took him.
Big, fast Gordon. A strong fighter for the ball in Watkins, Cameron, the Bengals dude in the slot (possibly). Throw in Ben Tate and another RB.
Hoyer shouldn't fail with that group. Draft Jimmy G or McCarron later.
I was just about to post something similar.
I will caution everyone though that we continuously fall in love with "building the team" every year ... and every year we still don't have a QB ... and every year we still suck. If Bridgewater is there at #4, I think you have to take him. If he's gone, then go Watkins. And I love the idea of putting Gordon and Watkins on the field together. But the bottom line is we need a QB.
What kind of idiot thinks an wide receiver can wear number two in the NFL? I surely don't want to draft him now.
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I wouldn't be upset a bit if we took him.
Big, fast Gordon. A strong fighter for the ball in Watkins, Cameron, the Bengals dude in the slot (possibly). Throw in Ben Tate and another RB.
Hoyer shouldn't fail with that group. Draft Jimmy G or McCarron later.
I was just about to post something similar.
I will caution everyone though that we continuously fall in love with "building the team" every year ... and every year we still don't have a QB ... and every year we still suck. If Bridgewater is there at #4, I think you have to take him. If he's gone, then go Watkins. And I love the idea of putting Gordon and Watkins on the field together. But the bottom line is we need a QB.
I think Watkins has a better chance of being a legit NFL star than Bridgewater or any of the other QB's in this draft class.
I think he is my favorite player in this draft that we could use while filling a need.
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What kind of idiot thinks an wide receiver can wear number two in the NFL? I surely don't want to draft him now.
he just had someone photo shop this picture...
https://www.naplesnews.com/photos/galleries/2013/nov/01/sammy-watkins-2013-season/290974/
Watkins isn't even my no1 WR in this class, wlthough I really like his game, but he has some attitude to him that I think is a little red flag. To some it may be ok, but there'S some potential trouble maker in him. Totally personal opinion though and a "gut feeling" if you will...
I'd rather pick OG/OT G.Robinson at 4 then Watkins. Since we did nothing to improve ou OL, I'd plug him in at LG or RG in year 1 and depending on Schwartz's season, maybe move him to RT in year two. Downside of the pick is a PB level LG, upside a PB OT.
That said, if both QBs I like are gone (Bridgewater/Bortles), a downtrade is my no1 wish. I'd be ok to pick OG/OT Z.Martin then, who's gonna be a good one too or WR Evans or the best CB etc etc depending of the rest of this (so far) uninspiring FA.
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What kind of idiot thinks an wide receiver can wear number two in the NFL? I surely don't want to draft him now.
What kind of idiot thinks Sammy Watkins actually spends his time photoshopping pictures of himself.
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Watkins would be one heck of a weapon, opposite Gordon.
Think about the effect Watkins and Gordon would have on the running game...no more crowding the LOS to shut down the run.
It is a very deep WR class with over 20 wrs projected to be drafted in the first 5 rounds. If the Browns don't draft Watkins they can still pick up a good prospect in one of the later rounds.
I agree, and Bortles is my pick at 4, with possibly Su'a-Filo, Beckham or Mosely at 26. If we don't take a WR at 4 or 26, there is still talent there to be had in the second, even 3rd rounds.
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I wouldn't be upset a bit if we took him.
Big, fast Gordon. A strong fighter for the ball in Watkins, Cameron, the Bengals dude in the slot (possibly). Throw in Ben Tate and another RB.
Hoyer shouldn't fail with that group. Draft Jimmy G or McCarron later.
I was just about to post something similar.
I will caution everyone though that we continuously fall in love with "building the team" every year ... and every year we still don't have a QB ... and every year we still suck. If Bridgewater is there at #4, I think you have to take him. If he's gone, then go Watkins. And I love the idea of putting Gordon and Watkins on the field together. But the bottom line is we need a QB.
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I wouldn't be upset a bit if we took him.
Big, fast Gordon. A strong fighter for the ball in Watkins, Cameron, the Bengals dude in the slot (possibly). Throw in Ben Tate and another RB.
Hoyer shouldn't fail with that group. Draft Jimmy G or McCarron later.
I was just about to post something similar.
I will caution everyone though that we continuously fall in love with "building the team" every year ... and every year we still don't have a QB ... and every year we still suck. If Bridgewater is there at #4, I think you have to take him. If he's gone, then go Watkins. And I love the idea of putting Gordon and Watkins on the field together. But the bottom line is we need a QB.
re-posted for emphasis.
Thanks.
As long as you aren't saying take "ANY" QB at 4 just because we need one, then I'm fine with that.
we needed a QB two years ago,, and we stretched and picked the wrong one and now he's on the street..
I know there aren't any guarantees but I'd rather we didn't make that mistake again.
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As long as you aren't saying take "ANY" QB at 4 just because we need one, then I'm fine with that.
Worry not, o Dawg'o'mine.
I was in-line with Rish's statement. If Bridgewater's there at 4, you take him... if not, Sammy would look great opposite Gordon.
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As long as you aren't saying take "ANY" QB at 4 just because we need one, then I'm fine with that.
Worry not, o Dawg'o'mine.
I was in-line with Rish's statement. If Bridgewater's there at 4, you take him... if not, Sammy would look great opposite Gordon.
Just read an article on NFL.com that there are some that don't even think that Teddy is a top 10 pick.... FYIW
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...er-scout-tweets
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He was posting stuff about himself in Lions gear as well.
Wasn't aware of that. Smart marketing. Feed their appetites.
Just clicking...
PLEASE! Sammy Watkins and Gordon together becomes difficult to cover, makes them both better and Cameron too. We've not had 2 good pass catchers on a team since BE and K2 were together.
Yes our QBs have been bad but our WRs have been worse. As noted by ALL of the FORMER Browns WRs that are playing on other teams in the league. Good luck if you can name one still in the league...
0 former Browns WRs had more than 25 catches this season (only chance maybe K2 had like 30...)
Hoyer has shown capable...Keep him and develop another guy.
Bortles at 4 really? This is the talk we have? He's not that good. Bridgewater fine, Manziel fine...but I don't think Bortles or Bridgewater take a team anywhere special...Manziel might because the kid has moxy...but the others? eh...regular NFL guys...not stars....
Watkins is a star...that's what you take at 4.
Good to see some interest in us even though we all know he's fishin for how high he can go...lol and looking to go somewhere with weapons already us n Lions.
Still as much as that looks good. WRs never won a championship and won't start this year.
Bridgwater is there its a no Brainer.
Then its a squeaker for the other two Bortles or JM that I will leave it up to Farmer cause he was the one who was scouting them and making the reports on the QBs.
NO QB either gone or JM/Bortles not in our #4 plans.
Clowney, Watkins and Robinsion have been on my list for a long time and will not change now. Not sure of any order. Would like anyone of them...I am not a WR high kind of guy but I do see something special in the Watkins kid. Would love a kick butt Robinson! and a kid like Clowney doesn't come around often.
jmho...we cannot pass on Bridgewater that is what I do know!
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I'd rather pick OG/OT G.Robinson at 4 then Watkins. Since we did nothing to improve ou OL, I'd plug him in at LG or RG in year 1 and depending on Schwartz's season, maybe move him to RT in year two. Downside of the pick is a PB level LG, upside a PB OT.
I have to call you on this.. nobody in the draft has ever had their downside be pro-bowl caliber at any position..... nobody... ever.... That's like saying a guy has ZERO risk....
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Watkins would be one heck of a weapon, opposite Gordon.
Think about the effect Watkins and Gordon would have on the running game...no more crowding the LOS to shut down the run.
It is a very deep WR class with over 20 wrs projected to be drafted in the first 5 rounds. If the Browns don't draft Watkins they can still pick up a good prospect in one of the later rounds.
I'd trade down for a 2nd if I didn't take Clowney. Clowney is a game changer IMO.
If Clowney is there, I'd trade down or select him. No other options for me, other than a QB if we feel the QB is the right guy.
#4 is a good spot this year......I hope we take advantage.
There are probably at least 15 players that are worthy of going top 5. Its a crazy draft. The fact that mathews from Vandy likely goes in the 2nd is just crazy. hell he could have probably gone top 10 last year to be honest.
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There are probably at least 15 players that are worthy of going top 5. Its a crazy draft. The fact that mathews from Vandy likely goes in the 2nd is just crazy. hell he could have probably gone top 10 last year to be honest.
Another reason why trading down and gaining another 2nd makes sense to me.
It's almost like every round in the top 4 is bumped up a round, if that makes sense, especially since we are at the top of rounds.
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At 26 ok, at 4 no thanks
I also think doing this will haunt him in the future. It will be used as fodder against him at some point.
26, LOL, aren't you the dreamer.
This kid is definitely worth the 4th pick and I am on board for the Browns to nab him. Drafting Watkins secures the WR group for a long time and we will finaly have legit weapons for a QB to throw to. My mouth waters at the thought of Gordon, Watkins, and Cameron on the field together. That is a nightmare for even the Seahawks' secondary.
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Just clicking...
PLEASE! Sammy Watkins and Gordon together becomes difficult to cover, makes them both better and Cameron too. We've not had 2 good pass catchers on a team since BE and K2 were together.
Yes our QBs have been bad but our WRs have been worse. As noted by ALL of the FORMER Browns WRs that are playing on other teams in the league. Good luck if you can name one still in the league...
0 former Browns WRs had more than 25 catches this season (only chance maybe K2 had like 30...)
Hoyer has shown capable...Keep him and develop another guy.
Bortles at 4 really? This is the talk we have? He's not that good. Bridgewater fine, Manziel fine...but I don't think Bortles or Bridgewater take a team anywhere special...Manziel might because the kid has moxy...but the others? eh...regular NFL guys...not stars....
Watkins is a star...that's what you take at 4.
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I'd rather pick OG/OT G.Robinson at 4 then Watkins. Since we did nothing to improve ou OL, I'd plug him in at LG or RG in year 1 and depending on Schwartz's season, maybe move him to RT in year two. Downside of the pick is a PB level LG, upside a PB OT.
I have to call you on this.. nobody in the draft has ever had their downside be pro-bowl caliber at any position..... nobody... ever.... That's like saying a guy has ZERO risk....
Orlando Pace
Great player but not sure I would take him at 4 - depends on if clowney or bridgewater are there - I'd take either over him and then if I want a wr either look to move up from 26 to take Evans or maybe hope to take Benjamin frm FSU in the second
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Good to see some interest in us even though we all know he's fishin for how high he can go...lol and looking to go somewhere with weapons already us n Lions.
Still as much as that looks good. WRs never won a championship and won't start this year.
Bridgwater is there its a no Brainer.
Then its a squeaker for the other two Bortles or JM that I will leave it up to Farmer cause he was the one who was scouting them and making the reports on the QBs.
NO QB either gone or JM/Bortles not in our #4 plans.
Clowney, Watkins and Robinsion have been on my list for a long time and will not change now. Not sure of any order. Would like anyone of them...I am not a WR high kind of guy but I do see something special in the Watkins kid. Would love a kick butt Robinson! and a kid like Clowney doesn't come around often.
jmho...we cannot pass on Bridgewater that is what I do know!
No WR ever won a championship, please did you forget about Jerry Rice and John Taylor???
I know that you are probably saying it was all Joe Montana, but what round was he drafted in? The 4th, not the 4th pick, but the 4th round, and how much do you think he could have done without those 2 WR's??? It takes 11 men on the field at a time to win, but when you can create the mismatches that the likes of Tate, Gordon, Watkins, Jordan, & Hawkins would create, you have to be curious. Cleveland has not seen that type of offensive talent in a LONG time..
At 4, not 26. Seems more realistic to me.
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I wouldn't be upset a bit if we took him.
Big, fast Gordon. A strong fighter for the ball in Watkins, Cameron, the Bengals dude in the slot (possibly). Throw in Ben Tate and another RB.
Hoyer shouldn't fail with that group. Draft Jimmy G or McCarron later.
I was just about to post something similar.
I will caution everyone though that we continuously fall in love with "building the team" every year ... and every year we still don't have a QB ... and every year we still suck. If Bridgewater is there at #4, I think you have to take him. If he's gone, then go Watkins. And I love the idea of putting Gordon and Watkins on the field together. But the bottom line is we need a QB.
I think Watkins has a better chance of being a legit NFL star than Bridgewater or any of the other QB's in this draft class.
I think he is my favorite player in this draft that we could use while filling a need.
I don't understand the fascination with Bridgewater. I've watched his highlights and see another one of those QB's who caves-in and bails out of the pocket too much. He also has a tendency to sling that side-armed ball which will be batted down regularly in the NFL. I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense. I don't know what we are planning on running but I can't see Pettine following that scheme.
Maybe I'm old school but I like Blake Bortles In many aspects, he reminds me of Bernie. He's big. He has a strong good delivery. He stays in the pocket. He steps up in the pocket. But, he can still throw the fade aways and perform west coast style consistently.
IF...and that's a big if...we can put together a backfield with some consistentcy in the running game we will do well with a big strong armed pocket passer. I'd love Tate and Hyde in the backfield and Bortles getting the snap with Gordon and Watkins out in the wings.
That would be great as long as we build a right side of the O-line some day soon.
There is just so much I disagree with in this post. I feel like it might be dishonest just to rile people up.
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I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense
You're talking about Teddy Bridgewater? 
The only way we do not take Watkins at 4 is if Clowney is there.
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There is just so much I disagree with in this post.
I felt the same. I was going to argue with his post but cannot seem to find enough time to type that much. There are only 24 hours in a day.
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I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense
You're talking about Teddy Bridgewater?
He is indeed
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I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense
You're talking about Teddy Bridgewater?
Don't you know all black QBs are running QBs?
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I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense
You're talking about Teddy Bridgewater?
Don't you know all black QBs are running QBs?
That was my first thought after reading that.
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I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense
You're talking about Teddy Bridgewater?
Don't you know all black QBs are running QBs?
Personally Bridgewater reminds me of McNabb, maybe with a bit of Warren Moon mixed with Kordell Stewart and Jason Campbell. Will he fall in the draft like Geno Smith? Probably not. Will he bust like Akili Smith? Probably not. But we all know one thing for sure, he is black.
He may fall out of the top 5 but that will be it. The kid can really play QB. The issue he has is concerns about durability due to slight build. If he was to be compared to a past black QB. I would compare him most to Warren Moon. Pure passer. He has athletic ability but he relies mostly on skills in the pocket.
Example is that one of the knocks on him is he does not escape pressure very well. That is not because he does not have the ahtletic ability to escape it is because he stays in the pocket and lets plays develop. he has tremendous QB skills. If he was 2 inchies taller and twenty pounds heavier he would be considered a sure fire can't miss prospect.
Normally I would say no to WR this high. But I think it could be a prudent idea. Lets not all forget Gordon is 1 strike away from a full season suspension. Taking Watkins may not only make most of us salivate at the thought of he, Gordon and Cam' on the field at once, but if Gordon screws up or gets injured where are we at then?
Let's not forget Glue Fingers Lavelli and Mac Speedie,then Glue Fingers Lavelli and Ray Renfro/Pete Brewster to join with Otto,Marion Motley,Dub Jones. The other element making this leathal combo great : an OL to protect open run lanes. Oh these sweet memories you young pups missed seeing in action.
You know I really like Sammy Watkins. And, I see the attraction for him pairing with Gordon. The issue is that if the Browns feel that Bridgewater or Bortles are franchise QB's and they are available at #4 I don't see how they can afford to pass them up.
A franchise QB turns a team that is always drafting in the top 10 to a team that is always competing for a playoff spot. I don't think any other 1 player offers that kind of potentail.
There is also plenty of very good wide receivers that are not much of a drop off if any at all from Watkins that will be available at picks 26 or 35. The key however is does the new staff see those players as franchise players?
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I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense
You're talking about Teddy Bridgewater?
Don't you know all black QBs are running QBs?
Personally Bridgewater reminds me of McNabb, maybe with a bit of Warren Moon mixed with Kordell Stewart and Jason Campbell. Will he fall in the draft like Geno Smith? Probably not. Will he bust like Akili Smith? Probably not. But we all know one thing for sure, he is black.
He's also got a lot of E.J. Manuel in him. Also, Aaron Brooks and Quincy Carter. Hopefully he is better than JaMarcus Russell and chooses better mistresses than Steve McNair. David Garrard seems like a good comparison as well as Byron Leftwich. If he's really good he might play as long as Charlie Batch did. I don't really remember Tony Banks, but something makes me compare the two.
In the end, he only half reminds me of Russell Wilson.
Michael Jackson wre no1 before no 81 and if memory serves me correct again before changing their numbers Dino Hall no1 before no 26 and Rico Smith was no 4 before taking Webstar's no 84. That's 3 WRs just from our Browns wearing a single digit.
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In the end, he only half reminds me of Russell Wilson.
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I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense
You're talking about Teddy Bridgewater?
Don't you know all black QBs are running QBs?
Personally Bridgewater reminds me of McNabb, maybe with a bit of Warren Moon mixed with Kordell Stewart and Jason Campbell. Will he fall in the draft like Geno Smith? Probably not. Will he bust like Akili Smith? Probably not. But we all know one thing for sure, he is black.
He's also got a lot of E.J. Manuel in him. Also, Aaron Brooks and Quincy Carter. Hopefully he is better than JaMarcus Russell and chooses better mistresses than Steve McNair. David Garrard seems like a good comparison as well as Byron Leftwich. If he's really good he might play as long as Charlie Batch did. I don't really remember Tony Banks, but something makes me compare the two.
In the end, he only half reminds me of Russell Wilson.
My guess would be Doug Williams... and not Spurgeon Wynn....
Haha is it just me or does S. Watkins have a gut in that picture?
I think he's more old school like Doug Williams or Randall Cunningham.
His reminds me of (Jefferson Street) Joe Gilliam because he is thin like Joe was. Joe had a prettier release, though.
He reminds me of Aaron Rodgers. Oops.
This really reminds me of the year when we passed on Rodgers and drafted Leon.
J/C
I only watched Sammy Watkins a few games but I said both times he was a man child against the competition. It wouldn't hurt my feelings to have him lined up in a Brown's uniform, but this should be our year for the quarterback.
Let's hope our FO & scouts know exactly how they have the quarterbacks ranked.
If our guy ( could be one of two quarterbacks for all we know) are there, take em & not look back. That's the beauty of having 2 first round draft picks, we can still grab talent @ 26!
I live in SC and have watched him his entire collegiate career. I can't believe we are even considering him, but then again, I couldn't believe we were considering Leon, either.
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I live in SC and have watched him his entire collegiate career. I can't believe we are even considering him, but then again, I couldn't believe we were considering Leon, either.
Are you serious?
Watkins was a beast in college. I dont want someone who will fill the spot and get an able body down the list, cuz this is a deep draft. I want the best, fastest, most explosive WR that can make one cut and take it to the house. Watkins has that. No other WR in this class comes close to him with that skill except maybe Marquise Lee.
I am dead serious.
The same argument was made by guys like you when we took Leon 3rd overall and passed on Rodgers.
That turned out well.
It's amazing how many times we repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again.
NRTU
I don't know if it's because I saw him more but I like Evans over Watkins as the top WR... I don't want either at 4, but if we were going to trade back for a WR at around 10 I'd rather have Evans... guy is huge and has a ton of talent... he bailed Manziel out frequently... I think he doesn't have the speed that Watkins has but I think he has more upside.
I don't think we should draft Watkins, but I do think he will be a beast for whatever team that drafts him. If Bridgewater is not available I think we should at least consider draft Watkins. If Bridgewater is gone we should go with the best player available. That player might be Sammy Watkins.
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I don't think we should draft Watkins, but I do think he will be a beast for whatever team that drafts him. If Bridgewater is not available I think we should at least consider draft Watkins. If Bridgewater is gone we should go with the best player available. That player might be Sammy Watkins.
You know I started out wanting Manziel at #4, but the more I thought about it the more I am convince that Watkins is our best option at #4. If he is there I think it's brain dead simple that you take him. Opposite Gordon, Watkins will make a huge impact this year and for many more to come. I know we think we need a "Franchise QB", but maybe we need the supporting cast more. I also think Hoyer would light up the boards with this duo. WOW.
While it would be fun to have both Gordon and Watkins on the team the QB position is more important. And there are also a few more that I would rather have addressed than adding another wide receiver at that spot (drafting Robinson would address some of our o-line issues).
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I've yet to see a QB who is a "scrambler and running danger" the nature of Michael Vick etc...take any team to any type of prolonged playoff/championship runs. Bridgewater would be great in a Chip Kelly offense
You're talking about Teddy Bridgewater?
Don't you know all black QBs are running QBs?
Personally Bridgewater reminds me of McNabb, maybe with a bit of Warren Moon mixed with Kordell Stewart and Jason Campbell. Will he fall in the draft like Geno Smith? Probably not. Will he bust like Akili Smith? Probably not. But we all know one thing for sure, he is black.
He's also got a lot of E.J. Manuel in him. Also, Aaron Brooks and Quincy Carter. Hopefully he is better than JaMarcus Russell and chooses better mistresses than Steve McNair. David Garrard seems like a good comparison as well as Byron Leftwich. If he's really good he might play as long as Charlie Batch did. I don't really remember Tony Banks, but something makes me compare the two.
In the end, he only half reminds me of Russell Wilson.
My guess would be Doug Williams... and not Spurgeon Wynn....
I really think he'll be more of like Culpepper with Josh Gordon being his Randy Moss.
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I don't know if it's because I saw him more but I like Evans over Watkins as the top WR... I don't want either at 4, but if we were going to trade back for a WR at around 10 I'd rather have Evans... guy is huge and has a ton of talent... he bailed Manziel out frequently... I think he doesn't have the speed that Watkins has but I think he has more upside.
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I also really like the idea of Vandy's Matthews at 35 or 26. He might be the value steal of the draft at WR. He aced everything I look for: big time production in a good Conference, size/speed, good hands, huge target/hands and versatility, as he can play both outside and in the slot. High floor (huge slot WR/WR2) with a high ceiling to dream on (fWR1)
I can't believe he isn't considered as a top 15 guy
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This really reminds me of the year when we passed on Rodgers and drafted Leon.
Have faith man...I am all over the board on who we might take, but I don't think we take Watkins. If there is any position on the field that also fields a ego, it a receiver. Something tells me that Gordon and Watkins won't be happy unless they get 100% of the attention. I don't see drafting Watkins as your #2 receiver.
I am beginning to think we select Bortels at #4. If that isn't shock enough, I also think either of Clowney or Mack hasn't been ruled out....LOL...you don't need to go in to your Clowney speech...I know it.
Let me ask you this. Is it possible Farmer and Pettine have digested all the tape they can find on Hoyer and decided he is the guy and we move forward with him? If so, that puts an entirely different light on the matter. If so, maybe a guy like Garappalo in the 2nd is the choice at QB.
One thing is for sure, with Hoyer as our only QB unless you want to count Tanney, we are going to bring in at least 2 QB's. Probably a vet and a drafted player.
Don't worry, I'd still take Johnny Football, but I doubt he is there. I don't know why, but I am starting to warm up to Bortels over Bridgewater.....but again, I am all over the board with what I want....by 3pm today, it may all be different. 
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This really reminds me of the year when we passed on Rodgers and drafted Leon.
Have faith man...I am all over the board on who we might take, but I don't think we take Watkins. If there is any position on the field that also fields a ego, it a receiver. Something tells me that Gordon and Watkins won't be happy unless they get 100% of the attention. I don't see drafting Watkins as your #2 receiver.
I am beginning to think we select Bortels at #4. If that isn't shock enough, I also think either of Clowney or Mack hasn't been ruled out....LOL...you don't need to go in to your Clowney speech...I know it.
Let me ask you this. Is it possible Farmer and Pettine have digested all the tape they can find on Hoyer and decided he is the guy and we move forward with him? If so, that puts an entirely different light on the matter. If so, maybe a guy like Garappalo in the 2nd is the choice at QB.
One thing is for sure, with Hoyer as our only QB unless you want to count Tanney, we are going to bring in at least 2 QB's. Probably a vet and a drafted player.
Don't worry, I'd still take Johnny Football, but I doubt he is there. I don't know why, but I am starting to warm up to Bortels over Bridgewater.....but again, I am all over the board with what I want....by 3pm today, it may all be different.
Hopefully Farmer and Pettine have their minds set on the #4 pick with a plan in place. So far every move has been an upgrade.
We gotta get this guy!
