Hi refs, I´d like to know why my "32 GMs mock" has been removed....what´s the problem? was it re-moved altogether? If so why? I haven´t seen it in another fourm
I had this thread now for 3-4 years leading up to the draft and it was pretty popular, why does it get deleted now
and yes, Im a little POed
I deleted it twice today because the second word in your thread was masked profanity, which is clearly against the rules. That's as far as I read, two words.
Yes, I could have cleaned it up, or yes, I could have sent you a PM, but a blatant disregard for rules calls for little courtesy. That may sound harsh, but it is what it is: simple posting courtesy.
In addition, I deleted your blog post in the Pure Football forum as we don't allow blogs unless they are by legitimate writers.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
great, thanks..so I didn´t forget it to post the 1st time around...I re-typed everything again and as you saw, it wasn´t little...a little advice and I would have removed the "word"....thanks again, I just wasted 1 hour of my life
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a little advice and I would have removed the "word"....thanks again, I just wasted 1 hour of my life
As I already said, posting courtesy works both ways.
Masked profanity is one of the simplest rules to follow and that went out the window with the second word of your post.
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a little advice and I would have removed the "word"....thanks again, I just wasted 1 hour of my life
As I already said, posting courtesy works both ways.
Masked profanity is one of the simplest rules to follow and that went out the window with the second word of your post.
I think you did a nice job of explaining to him why his thread was deleted.
Just for informations sake can we clarify a bit what is considered masked profanity? For example is using a sound alike word considered masked profanity? Like saying snit instead of.. well you know. Or is just this; %#&^ considered masked profanity? How about Snoop Dawg talk? Fo Snizzle my Nizzle, if said the right way there is a word there that would be unacceptable.
Just curious. I dont want to say any bad words for Deepthreats virgin ears 
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It was obviously part of an entrance joke....given the amount written, a simple PM advice would have done the trick. Also, since everyone can use words like ass etc around here I thought it´s not a big deal....I know why Americans are by far #1 in cursing....it´s because their so double-faced about it...it´s ok in every day life but not on a football message board...aaaalright....you guys are really a funny bunch...NOT
ya know, one might think that if you had this real big article that got deleted cause of "one word", that when you sat there and re-typed it, you might consider leaving that word out the second time around...just for safty sake....just a thought.......
I thought I never posted it the 1st time around (see 1st post here) cause I got timed out and had to open another window, c/p it etc..and then I closed some windows cause my PC went bananas....that´s why I´m so POed about it...I NEVER got this automatic PN saying my thread was removed the 1st time around...so I thought it was my mistake closing the wrong tab before posting it...and I re-typed it again...I had no clue it was deleted the 1st time around...and I never got a message, the 2nd time I got 1 but it didn´t say why it was deleted....I didn´t know WHAT the problem IS until I opened this thread here..all for sayin "same ..., different year"
I apologize for not knowing that "ass" is allowed and "..." not...a word that is used in every 2nd sentence by an US citizen btw....hilarious
I could have been more aware but the ref sure didn´t help the matter communicating it
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I apologize for not knowing that "ass" is allowed
Ass is not allowed?...since when?
Ass is allowed, and that was not the word in question.
I'm not sure where the confusion lies; if you use other letters or characters in order to form a "curse" word, or use a manner in which to infer such a word then you are masking profanity.
CHIT
$hit
f**king
effing
d!ckhead
To name a few.
It's pretty simpe and again I don't understand why anyone would have difficulty understanding this.
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$hit
f**king
effing
d!ckhead
Does "ish" fall into this category. Cuz it implies a curse word, but it doesn't resemble or form a curse word. And I use that often.
To everyone...
To get to the bottom line of the whole issue, ask yourself how important and necessary cuss words are in order for you to make your point.
Cannot our points and opinions be satisfactorily expressed without them?
The arguement seems to be that since we are mature adults we should be allowed to express ourselves in an immature and adolescent manner.
Ref 1 is going to banned camp!
So I am allowed to say, "some ish like that," as long as it doesn't resemble, or form some curse word?
I just want to be sure so I am not harassed in the future.
Umm, what are you talking about?
We accomplish enough of that without cussing,...
The Refs do a dadgummit great job,...they leave me alone.
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So I am allowed to say, "some ish like that," as long as it doesn't resemble, or form some curse word?
I just want to be sure so I am not harassed in the future.
I'll keep it simple, no you are not allowed.
Serious question, because I have used this one before and it's borderline I guess-
"Cheese 'n rice?"
Is that considered masking?
JMO, I wouldn't think so because I don't think Jesus Christ is considered profanity, even when used as an exclamation. But, I could be wrong about that.
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... I wouldn't think so because I don't think Jesus Christ is considered profanity, even when used as an exclamation. But, I could be wrong about that.
It's considered using the Lords name in vain which the Bible commands us not to do. If one does not believe in the Bible it is still considered using the Lord's name in vain and the Bible still commands us not to do it. But that has nothing to do with the rules or the spirit of the rules.
Since it is only used in one of two ways i.e. talking about Jesus or using it as a cuss word, then it's use defines it's intent. If the intent is to cuss, then if it were solely up to me, I would disallow it. But that's just my own opinion .
To the others who are asking for a ruling on their pet form of profanity...
Why this burning desire to get your favorite cuss word/masked profanity validated?
This should make it simple:
If it's a cuss word/psudo cuss word to you and you are using it as a cuss word/psudo cuss word on the board then it is not allowed.
If you have a question as to the validity of it's use on this board then it is not allowed.
If you can't make a point or make your emotions clear without cuss words, psudo cuss words or masked profanity stop and think about it a moment and you'll find that you can.
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It's considered using the Lords name in vain which the Bible commands us not to do. If one does not believe in the Bible it is still considered using the Lord's name in vain and the Bible still commands us not to do it. But that has nothing to do with the rules or the spirit of the rules. Since it is only used in one of two ways i.e. talking about Jesus or using it as a cuss word, then it's use defines it's intent. If the intent is to cuss then, IMO, I would say it's not allowed.
To the others who are asking for a ruling on their pet form of profanity...
Why this burning desire to get your favorite cuss word/masked profanity validated?
This should make it simple:
If it's a cuss word/psudo cuss word to you and you are using it as a cuss word/psudo cuss word on the board then it is not allowed.
If you have a question as to the validity of it's use on this board then it is not allowed.
If you can't make a point or make your emotions clear without cuss words, psudo cuss words or masked profanity stop and think about it a moment and you'll find that you can.
It would be nice if those standards were applied across the board. However, they aren't, unfortunately.
I'm not trying to get my "pet" cuss word validated. I know I've used it in the past on here without incident. Whether is was because it wasn't seen by a ref, or it wasn't a big deal was the question.
I don't typically use it in a normal post, but when you're in a game thread during the game, or in a thread while watching the Cavs/Tribe as well, sometimes your emotions get going. Therefore you get a little upset. It's not like I go around posting in your average discussion thread "Cheese n rice! You don't know a damn thing about NFL football."
Just a question. Simple answers are fine. No need for a religious lecture or multiple paragraphs on it. That is what this forum is for, right?
So basically no masked profanity or anything that sounds close to profanity. Except ass. Apparently that is allowed.
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No need for a religious lecture or multiple paragraphs on it.
Amen. That kind of ticked me off, too, and I would never use that phrase on this board.
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It's considered using the Lords name in vain which the Bible commands us not to do. If one does not believe in the Bible it is still considered using the Lord's name in vain and the Bible still commands us not to do it. But that has nothing to do with the rules or the spirit of the rules. Since it is only used in one of two ways i.e. talking about Jesus or using it as a cuss word, then it's use defines it's intent. If the intent is to cuss then, IMO, I would say it's not allowed.
To the others who are asking for a ruling on their pet form of profanity...
Why this burning desire to get your favorite cuss word/masked profanity validated?
This should make it simple:
If it's a cuss word/psudo cuss word to you and you are using it as a cuss word/psudo cuss word on the board then it is not allowed.
If you have a question as to the validity of it's use on this board then it is not allowed.
If you can't make a point or make your emotions clear without cuss words, psudo cuss words or masked profanity stop and think about it a moment and you'll find that you can.
It would be nice if those standards were applied across the board. However, they aren't, unfortunately.
Boy if that ain't the unadulterated truth,...because I know for a fact, some of my own INTENTIONALLY flagrant masked attempts have not been deleted because I pimped them off someone else's,.....i.e. 'effin,...gal durn,....SOB, ASSume, gashdummit,....why are ANY of these "allowed?"
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Simple answers are fine. No need for a religious lecture or multiple paragraphs on it.
First, it wasn't a religious lecture. It was in answer to BrownsBabe on whether or not it was considered profantity. Your name isn't considered profantity either, but if it became the habit of the population to use it as such then it would take on an entirely different connotation than simply what we call you.
The Bible was mentioned because THAT is the sole source of where we ALL, (me, you, and you too Michelle), get the idea that using it in that manner is wrong. If the Bible hadn't already brought it up then none of us would even question the rightness or wrongness of it. None of us.
Secondly, as for multiple paragraphs, so far simple answers have only resulted in yet another question on whether or not this or that word is allowed.
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So basically no masked profanity or anything that sounds close to profanity.
I wish I'd have thought of that. Much better than multiple paragraphs. 
I'll just say that I disagree with saying that "Jesus Christ" is a punishable profanity. I'm not in charge of the boards, so it's not really up to me. But I just disagree. I have friends who are Jewish who say it all the time because to them, it's really just another name.
But, I'm not in charge, so I don't really have much say in the matter.
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I'll just say that I disagree with saying that "Jesus Christ" is a punishable profanity. I'm not in charge of the boards, so it's not really up to me. But I just disagree. I have friends who are Jewish who say it all the time because to them, it's really just another name.
But, I'm not in charge, so I don't really have much say in the matter.
I respectfully disagree,...because the manner that the words are used in are not normally or fully determinable over a keyboard. Generally, when used, "JC" is a replacement for other select offensive language. That makes its use offensive to some select people. However, it is hilarious to hear someone use " J,...'H'... C " in a funny or humorous situation (mother-in-law in partcular,.... ), like when you're out at the comedy club, etc.
It's all a matter of perception, so erring on the side of the Ref's here is no problem for me. I don't use it on the Board, but not because of fear of retribution,....to me it is inappropriate, so I refrain.
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I have friends who are Jewish who say it all the time because to them, it's really just another name.
Yes, but we are only catering to Christians here obviously.
Oh, and this apparently would also mean that we're not allowed to use the phrase "Oh God!", or "Oh sweet Jesus!" or "Oh my God", or "dear Lord!".....which would also include the usage of the acronym "OMG".
(and before you say it ref, yes these are all considered to be taking the Lord's name in vain according to the strictest of translations....or are we not being that strict?) :-)
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Why this burning desire to get your favorite cuss word/masked profanity validated?
Ding Ding Ding,,,, Ref6 has hit the jackpot with that question.. what's the big deal,,,
Use some common sense here. if it's a swear word and you are unsure if it's acceptable under the rules as they exist, find another word to use.
Example: Damn or darn.. if you were wondering if Damn was acceptable, then it's rather simple, use Darn. everyone knows what you meant but it's certainly not objectionable...
Or how about Oh Shoot! Same thing.
I'm having a hard time wondering, like Ref6 seems to be, why it's a big deal to use a different word to replace another word.
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I'll just say that I disagree with saying that "Jesus Christ" is a punishable profanity. I'm not in charge of the boards, so it's not really up to me. But I just disagree.
I never said that.
I'm not in charge of the board either. I work from a consensus of the Refs as we interpret the rules. One of them largely wrote those rules.
In that single paragraph, I was talking to BrownsBabe. I separately addressed, "the others", right after that. So nothing addressed to her statements, which I quoted, had anything to do with anyone else or how the Refs, as a consensus, interpret and enforse the rules.
As I was answering to BrownsBabe's comment I clearly stated that the Bible commands has nothing to do with the rules or the spirit of the rules. I also said that "IMO I would say it's not allowed". IMO=In My Opinion. I later edited that in an effort to make it even more clear. (The original is in archbolddawg's post.)
Although you are not the only one to misinterpret my statements, and I likely could have made myself much clearer in the first place, I think sometimes, some people see the word "Lord" or "Bible" and are immediately up in arms without paying much attention to what was actually said.
Since your response was to me, please allow me to respond with: Your response should merely have been "IMO, I would not allow it" I could have done without the Bible study class. As someone else said, if Jesus Christ wasn't permitted here, then neither should any itteration of God's name (as in OMG or Dear God).
OMG
WTH
WTF
LMFAO
S.O.B.
are allowed within reason. Now if you say to another poster "Listen you S.O.B." your going to get the boot. However if we were to trade Joe Thomas for a 7th round draft choice and you replied S.O.B. thats fine.
Of course if we traded JT for a 7th round pick, most of us would have thrown our computers out the window already *L*
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.i.e. 'effin,...gal durn,....SOB, ASSume, gashdummit,....why are ANY of these "allowed?"
effin is NOT allowed. All of the others are fine.
Just so that I and others have it straight once and for all...will using the phrase "Jesus Christ" get you banned? Yes or no?
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.i.e. 'effin,...gal durn,....SOB, ASSume, gashdummit,....why are ANY of these "allowed?"
effin is NOT allowed. All of the others are fine.
How can "effin" not be allowed, but WTF is? Both are variations of the F word.
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.i.e. 'effin,...gal durn,....SOB, ASSume, gashdummit,....why are ANY of these "allowed?"
effin is NOT allowed. All of the others are fine.
How can "effin" not be allowed, but WTF is? Both are variations of the F word.
Christy, refs....see, this is the problem, board members are not mind readers and what one ref may allow, another might not.
Best way to solve the problem...just list what is not allowed. Abbreviate when necessary but list the words that are not allowed....or....expand your software capability to block every word that is not allowed.
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.just list what is not allowed.
That's completely absurd... it is impossible to account for all possibilities of what is NOT permitted.
What I can do is list for everyone what IS allowed:
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Use the words quoted there as substitutions for your favorite curse word - if you don't see it there, then I suggest that you find a different way of wording your sentence or conveying your message.
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effen is NOT allowed.
What if you are talking about the brand of vodka.
I don't care if you're talking about a brand of chicken. Stop worrying about trying to find the ways you can circumvent the rules.
We seem to be getting away from the spirit and intent of the original rule, and this is being abetted by questions of using "ish" and "cheese and rice."
Using ish in the manner in which was described is to use it in place of a curse word, and the connotation is still there so that is not allowed.
Cheese and rice is acceptable, especially when yoy you realize it's been written on this board and the prior board maybe 5 times in 10 years.
Fo shizzle my nizzle is allowed. All this phrase means is "I concur with you my african brother." It is accepted vernacular and again is not seen that often on hear to even be concerned with.
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It was obviously part of an entrance joke....given the amount written, a simple PM advice would have done the trick.
It does not matter one iota, it was blatantly masked profanity where you substituted an $ for an s to get around a word that is blocked by the word filter. You intentionally tried to circumvent the rules of the board by doing so, and your post was deleted as it is our "right" to do so.
The original intent was to keep profanity off of the forums. With the change in board ownership, the rules could be relaxed somewhat and they have been in many areas.
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I know why Americans are by far #1 in cursing....it´s because their so double-faced about it...it´s ok in every day life but not on a football message board
That's the thing---it's okay in everyday life if you know your audience and that they are okay with it. If you are in a public place (such as this forum) then it is NOT acceptable in a civilized society to utilize many of the words we see on here being masked; and just because you can use them on other message boards around the net is meaningless as well. The rule here is no profanity nor masked profanity and that is a very simple rule.
Posting this now but not done, just don't want the board to eat the reply. 
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Just so that I and others have it straight once and for all...will using the phrase "Jesus Christ" get you banned? Yes or no?
No. It is not profanity.
I know some will argue the audience example I just gave above but again we look at the times it is used on here and in what context.
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.i.e. 'effin,...gal durn,....SOB, ASSume, gashdummit,....why are ANY of these "allowed?"
effin is NOT allowed. All of the others are fine.
How can "effin" not be allowed, but WTF is? Both are variations of the F word.
Because we kicked it around a few years ago and decided it was one we would let pass because lots of folks type it naturally. (wtf that is)
"effin" is a clear variation of the f-bomb that we originally had to eliminate from the unmoderated board many moons ago. It is masked profanity.
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.i.e. 'effin,...gal durn,....SOB, ASSume, gashdummit,....why are ANY of these "allowed?"
effin is NOT allowed. All of the others are fine.
How can "effin" not be allowed, but WTF is? Both are variations of the F word.
Christy, refs....see, this is the problem, board members are not mind readers and what one ref may allow, another might not.
Best way to solve the problem...just list what is not allowed. Abbreviate when necessary but list the words that are not allowed....or....expand your software capability to block every word that is not allowed.
Or people could choose their words properly when they post, as you do? I don't recall you using masked profanity in your posts mac, you use words from the english language, and that is all that is being asked and that is all that was ever asked.
We shouldn't have to put "m@therf@kkor" in the word filter because people should never type it on here. It's that simple, there is no mind-reading involved.
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I'm not trying to get my "pet" cuss word validated. I know I've used it in the past on here without incident. Whether is was because it wasn't seen by a ref, or it wasn't a big deal was the question.
I don't typically use it in a normal post, but when you're in a game thread during the game, or in a thread while watching the Cavs/Tribe as well, sometimes your emotions get going. Therefore you get a little upset. It's not like I go around posting in your average discussion thread "Cheese n rice! You don't know a damn thing about NFL football."
Just a question. Simple answers are fine. No need for a religious lecture or multiple paragraphs on it. That is what this forum is for, right?
So basically no masked profanity or anything that sounds close to profanity. Except ass. Apparently that is allowed.
That's it in a nutshell, and yes there are going to be times where we miss things. Missing things has always been a pet peeve of mine because when things are missed others see them and deem them as being acceptable. "Well, so-and-so posted #%^*)!%^ and it was not removed from the board so that means I can use it too!!"
Then the next time it is seen and removed that person is disappointed at their post removal and confused as to why it happened, since someone else was "allowed" to use it.
Let's try to keep in mind the original spirit and intent of the rule and not get caught up in what-ifs. If there is a problem, ask in here and we will give an answer if we haven't already sent you a PM beforehand. We could break this down perpetually asking "what about this word and this word?"
There is no need for that. The original post that prompted this discussion was because a blatantly masked word was used. Don't do that and 99 times out of 100 there won't be a problem. 
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.i.e. 'effin,...gal durn,....SOB, ASSume, gashdummit,....why are ANY of these "allowed?"
effin is NOT allowed. All of the others are fine.
How can "effin" not be allowed, but WTF is? Both are variations of the F word.
Christy, refs....see, this is the problem, board members are not mind readers and what one ref may allow, another might not.
Best way to solve the problem...just list what is not allowed. Abbreviate when necessary but list the words that are not allowed....or....expand your software capability to block every word that is not allowed.
Or people could choose their words properly when they post, as you do? I don't recall you using masked profanity in your posts mac, you use words from the english language, and that is all that is being asked and that is all that was ever asked.
We shouldn't have to put "m@therf@kkor" in the word filter because people should never type it on here. It's that simple, there is no mind-reading involved.
All I'm saying is, IF the board wrote down (listed) what is not allowed then there is no discussion and no guessing about what is allowable.
I agree, there is no need to curse or suggest cursing to make a point but it does happen.
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All I'm saying is, IF the board wrote down (listed) what is not allowed then there is no discussion and no guessing about what is allowable.
If you stop and think about it for a moment, you'd realize that not only is that not needed, it is actually impossible to do, and it would be a terrible idea to attempt because all it would serve to do is provide people the opportunity to say "but it isn't on the list!".
Aside from all of that, without treading in the minefield of attempting to list specific words, the board has already specified what is not allowed.
So I can't post a photo of my butt then
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So I can't post a photo of my butt then
gm...as long as you don't call your butt a nasty name, what's the harm?...
....gm...hmmm, giving your butt picture idea some thought...it could be worse than words 
....we don't need that...do we?....lol...mac
I've posted a picture of GM's butt on here a couple of times.
Sorry Refs.
Burgers are done everybody, dig in
Did you wash your hands first?
Yep right before I hooked up the gas line.
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I've posted a picture of GM's butt on here a couple of times.
Sorry Refs.
Jules...GM's rearend picture is proof positive that a picture can be worse than curse words... 
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Should I PM you a close up Mac
"Ish" is a curse word? I thought it was a take on the word"issue"?
And here I believed I knew all the curse words...