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Posted By: Ballpeen The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/01/21 10:25 PM
I'll start it here.

Posted By: jfanent Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/01/21 10:33 PM
Allow me. "But that's nothing compared to Trump!!"
Posted By: Swish Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/01/21 10:43 PM
Was it flip flops with socks on?
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/01/21 11:52 PM
BOGEYMAN!
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 10:23 AM
I guess there is nothing else you can say. LOL
Posted By: Damanshot Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 01:02 PM
Funny,,, When Trump did this, you said nothing....
Posted By: GMdawg Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 01:03 PM
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 01:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Funny,,, When Trump did this, you said nothing....


Prove it...lol

The topic is Bidens flip flops. Any flip flop by the former President doesn't really matter anymore. Right?
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 02:05 PM
I'm no fan of Biden. I think he's less disastrous than Trump, but nothing about me feels great about him being President. I feel, I guess kind of relieved to have someone who I view as less of a problem in office, but the guy is clearly a career politician and harbors a lot of the vices of one.

I'm not exactly sure what we're supposed to be discussing in this thread, though.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 03:20 PM
Quote:
I'm no fan of Biden. I think he's less disastrous than Trump, but nothing about me feels great about him being President. I feel, I guess kind of relieved to have someone who I view as less of a problem in office, but the guy is clearly a career politician and harbors a lot of the vices of one.


He certainly doesn't inspire enthusiasm in me, either.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 03:28 PM
His memories are fine. So I understand the hate for Biden so aptly slung at him by trump supporters.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 03:41 PM
Some people are smart enough to change their minds as they gather more information. Some aren't.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 04:00 PM
I strongly agree with that on issues that involve data analysis. For instance, many Conservatives - including Trump - slammed Fauci for being a flip-flopper. In reality, he was adjusting his stance as more data came in. As the virus showed itself to be more deadly, he changed his positions, and got slammed for it, which I find odd. What was he supposed to do? "Well, I found out the virus is much deadlier than originally thought, but I can't change my mind to precaution people, or I'd be a flip-flopper!"

Ethical issues, however, I think are where flip-flopping is more of an issue. Trump flip-flopped on the abortion issue, and it seemed pretty clear to me that he did so to holster the socially conservative vote when he was contemplating a primary run. That bothered me.

Career politicians like Biden have shown opportunism on that front, too. I don't mind ethical flip-flopping if I feel like it's genuine, but so often it's opportunistic, in my opinion.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 04:11 PM
In this case the answer is a simple one. He didn't get White House briefings before. It happens to a lot of presidents before they take office. Only after they are elected do they get the intelligence briefings that current presidents get which gives them access to all of our intel.

I'll give you a quick example. Trump said he would remove all troops from Afghanistan and Iraq. Obama basically said the same thing. Yet neither one of them did so. They lowered troop levels but never withdrew all the troops.

It's amazing how different they see things once they have all the information.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 04:14 PM
Yeah, that kind of stuff doesn't bother me.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/02/21 04:25 PM
Me either. But then we understand why it happens.
Posted By: fishtheice Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/04/21 05:33 PM
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
His memories are fine.



Good grief...

Posted By: PitDAWG Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/04/21 05:37 PM
He would never have been elected president if the airports hadn't been stormed during the Revolutionary war.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: The Presidents Flip Flops - 04/04/21 05:44 PM
Can you believe how he made fun of that handicapped reporter? And calling those countries S hole countries! OMG Biden has to go because he takes pauses and might even make a gaff or two when speaking... Get out of here with your weak sauce. Trump earned the ire he drew, so far I can't see where Biden has earned anything near the same level. But I know you will keep trying to hate on him and you have that right thanks to democrats preserving democracy and getting the fascists out of the Oval.
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