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I don't think his career is over. As desperate as teams are for quality QBs some one will give him another chance to at least come in and be a backup, there are guys in the league who are worse then Weeden still bouncing around from team to team and drawing a paycheck.


This is not true. The Cowboys couldn't trust Weeden to throw the ball more than five yards down the field and then benched him for Matt Cassel (who is horrible) when he had only been with the team for a few weeks.

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Nooooooooooo....

Seriously though, Cassell is THE prime example of how these types of QBs get chance after chance after chance....or take our own McCown, same type of everlasting backup. Or Colt McCoy etc etc

If Weeden is gone for good it will be for two things. Either he just isn't smart enough to collect a paycheck and keep his mouth shut (could that be because he's competitive? or vain? no clue). Or he's had enough (both money and ridicule).

I agree with cfr, I think this is it. He was boom or bust from the start and he busted. Is this the second Browns QB drafted at 22 that has fizzled out of the NFL in 4 years? A curse? Two more years for Johnny, then tongue


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Meh, he's 32. He'll be out of the league within the next 4 years. He's a failure of a QB. Does it really matter when he is out of the league?

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I don't think Cassel is better then Weeden yet he's still in the league, how about Josh Johnson, TJ Yates, Charlie Whitehurst, Kellen Clemens, Thad Lewis, Jimmy Clausen, Dan Orlovsky, Matt Flynn and others.


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Originally Posted By: dawg66
I don't think Cassel is better then Weeden yet he's still in the league, how about Josh Johnson, TJ Yates, Charlie Whitehurst, Kellen Clemens, Thad Lewis, Jimmy Clausen, Dan Orlovsky, Matt Flynn and others.


I think you missed the part where Dallas chose to start Cassel over Weeden.

I'd take all of the guys you listed over Weeden.

I am sorry for bringing this up. I don't even want to talk about Weeden.

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Plus, he really didn't play that horribly for the Cowboys. (compared to other backups, or really, to Cassell .... and Cassell has had Bryant for a couple of weeks)


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Plus, he really didn't play that horribly for the Cowboys. (compared to other backups, or really, to Cassell .... and Cassell has had Bryant for a couple of weeks)



He didn't play horrible because they didn't let him do anything. The moment Cassel was ready, Weeden was benched.

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Plus, he really didn't play that horribly for the Cowboys. (compared to other backups, or really, to Cassell .... and Cassell has had Bryant for a couple of weeks)



He didn't play horrible because they didn't let him do anything. The moment Cassel was ready, Weeden was benched.


And Weeden did only throw 2 TD to 2 INT during his time, so that was a factor in their decision to sit him, no doubt.

However, what has Cassell done?

4 TD, 5 INT, and that was with at least one Dez Bryant, absolutely unbelievable, insane TD catch, where he went up over everyone to make the catch, and came down so awkwardly that everyone in a Cowboy's uniform felt the breath go out of them for at least a full minute, until they saw that he was alright.

I am not saying that Weeden did a great job as a starter, but he did come in and win a game for them, finishing the Philly game, and driving the team to a TD to win that game ..... which is what you hope your backup can do. People complained that he just threw short, but he averaged 7.53 yards/pass, compared to 6.80 for Cassell. (and again, Cassell has had Bryant back for 3 of his 4 games, which has to be a huge help)

You say that they "didn't let him do anything", but he threw 26, 26, and 39 passes in his 3 starts. Cassell threw 27, 25, 38, and 29 passes in his 4 starts. An argument can be made that they limited Cassell every bit as much as they did Weeden.

I do think that the whole episode shows just how valuable Romo is to that team. I think that they struggle with anyone not names Romo under Center.


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Brandon Weeden has completed 29 of his first 33 passes in 2015. The quarterback's 87.9 completion percentage is tops of any quarterback to throw 30-plus passes.

Those passes, however, have almost all been short. Weeden has thrown just two balls more than 15 air-yards (0-2). The Dallas Cowboys' quarterback is averaging an NFL-low 4.8 air yards per pass attempt.


Do you have a "Weeden till I die" tattoo?

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I bet he signs with Indy, Chud is their OC and Luck is gone for the year right?

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
... the whole episode shows just how valuable Romo is to that team.


Well, yes; it's quite apparent...


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I bet he signs with Indy, Chud is their OC and Luck is gone for the year right?


Why would Chud do that to himself again?

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I bet he signs with Indy, Chud is their OC and Luck is gone for the year right?


Why would Chud do that to himself again?


He wants to get fired over him again.

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I think your problem is that you can't admit you are wrong and you play stat boy w/out watching the games.

I am sure you know more about Weeden and Cassell because you looked up some stats and they only got to see him everyday. rolleyes

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I don't think his career is over. As desperate as teams are for quality QBs some one will give him another chance to at least come in and be a backup, there are guys in the league who are worse then Weeden still bouncing around from team to team and drawing a paycheck.


This is not true. The Cowboys couldn't trust Weeden to throw the ball more than five yards down the field and then benched him for Matt Cassel (who is horrible) when he had only been with the team for a few weeks.


Someone will try him out.. I don't doubt it for a second.


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Someone will try him out.. I don't doubt it for a second.


His arm and shoulder has been rested as he has not played much, there's always a return to baseball rofl

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Someone will try him out.. I don't doubt it for a second.


His arm and shoulder has been rested as he has not played much, there's always a return to baseball rofl


LOL well I suppose.

This league is QB starved.. Someone will say, I can make him a better QB and then he'll get another chance.


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Has everything needed to be a commentator for Fox or ESPN. Gotta talk better than he played. Hope he might replace Bray Lewis. . . .


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Someone will try him out.. I don't doubt it for a second.


His arm and shoulder has been rested as he has not played much, there's always a return to baseball rofl


LOL well I suppose.

This league is QB starved.. Someone will say, I can make him a better QB and then he'll get another chance.

Unless some team is in desperate need of a back-up to finish out this season, I doubt it.

There are too many kids coming out of college with his measurables... a team is going to give an unknown that is 22 a shot before they give a known that is 30 another shot...


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Someone will try him out.. I don't doubt it for a second.


His arm and shoulder has been rested as he has not played much, there's always a return to baseball rofl


LOL well I suppose.

This league is QB starved.. Someone will say, I can make him a better QB and then he'll get another chance.

Unless some team is in desperate need of a back-up to finish out this season, I doubt it.

There are too many kids coming out of college with his measurables... a team is going to give an unknown that is 22 a shot before they give a known that is 30 another shot...



Then how do you explain Cassel, Matt Moore, Matt Schaub, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Charlie Whitehurst, Kellen Clemens, Dan Orlovsky, Shaun Hill, Matt Flynn, Drew Stanton and Tarvaris Jackson.


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They are all better than Weeden.

Indy might give Weeden a shot, though.

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Someone will try him out.. I don't doubt it for a second.


His arm and shoulder has been rested as he has not played much, there's always a return to baseball rofl


LOL well I suppose.

This league is QB starved.. Someone will say, I can make him a better QB and then he'll get another chance.

Unless some team is in desperate need of a back-up to finish out this season, I doubt it.

There are too many kids coming out of college with his measurables... a team is going to give an unknown that is 22 a shot before they give a known that is 30 another shot...


You know, you might be right,, I totally forgot about his age. Yeah, that could make a difference.

Whatever, he's got to be one of most wealthy combined NFL/MLB busts ever.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
They are all better than Weeden.

Indy might give Weeden a shot, though.


One million year old Hasselbeck > Weeden

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Whatever, he's got to be one of most wealthy combined NFL/MLB busts ever.

Funny, we joke about Weeden a lot because he was never able to cut it, we apply words like "Bust" and you see some really rude comments about him on social media (and on here)... dude had a run at pro baseball, a very good college football career, got to play in the NFL for a few years, he's a single digit handicap golfer... 98% of the people ragging on him have never achieved ONE of those things, let alone all of them.


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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/18/texans-claim-weeden-maybe-so-colts-couldnt/

Texans claim Weeden, maybe so Colts couldn’t

Posted by Zac Jackson on November 18, 2015, 5:47 PM EST
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Brandon Weeden wasn’t unemployed for long, and the uncertain quarterback situation in Houston means the Texans need Weeden to report for work immediately.

The Texans claimed Weeden off waivers Wednesday. The Texans are on a short-week situation and lost starting quarterback Brian Hoyer to a concussion during their win Monday night in Cincinnati. Weeden, waived Tuesday by the Cowboys, becomes the third quarterback on the Texans’ roster behind Hoyer and T.J. Yates, who played after Hoyer was injured.

Hoyer didn’t practice Wednesday, and Texans coach Bill O’Brien said Hoyer will need to practice at least once this week if he’s going to play Sunday vs. the Jets. Zac Dysert is on the practice squad and was set for a promotion before the claim of Weeden.

The Texans are 4-5 and tied atop the AFC South with the Colts, who are without Andrew Luck for a while and claimed Charlie Whitehurst last week to serve as the backup to Matt Hasselbeck. It’s possible that the Texans claimed Weeden to keep the Colts from getting him. The Texans are ahead of the Colts in the waiver process.

Hoyer and Weeden were teammates in 2013 with the Browns; Hoyer took the starting job after Weeden suffered an injury but tore his ACL three games later. The coach of the 2013 Browns, Rob Chudzinski, is now the Colts’ offensive coordinator.

The Browns cut Weeden after the season and he signed with the Cowboys. Weeden has lost 11 straight starts dating back to his rookie season of 2012 with the Browns; he was 0-3 as the Cowboys’ starter before getting replaced by Matt Cassel last month.

Yates was out of the league until the Texans cut Ryan Mallett last month.

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So we are to assume that Weeds > Dysert? Just curiouser and curiouser. Flipper rides again . . ..


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I think it was more so the Colts couldn't get him. Luck is out. Hassleback is old and you don't know if he can last. The Jesus QB might be even worse than Weeds.

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Geez, Vers, that is frightening to get my head around. Need to mull that over some.
But you said maybe. Hasselbeck on a walker soon, I suspect.


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Not saying I am right. Just a hunch. I thought Indy might go after Weeds. I think I may have mentioned it somewhere. Maybe this thread???

The Texans and Colts are tied for the division lead. Hassleback is old. It would make some sense. But again, just a hunch and I have no proof at all.

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Hoyer is out with a concussion.

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Can Colt McCoy be far behind in Houston?

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Can Colt McCoy be far behind in Houston?

The Redskins would probably give up RGIII before they gave up McCoy.. how weird does that look...


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Can Colt McCoy be far behind in Houston?

The Redskins would probably give up RGIII before they gave up McCoy.. how weird does that look...


RG3's contract is for 16 million next year. He's going to be cut in the off season. Colt and Cousins are both UFA's next year too. What's weird is another team is in worse shape than we are at QB.


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Yep golf, poker, hop scotch, yatzee, Fandual. He has all kinds of time to play, and enough money in the bank to play for a long time. naughtydevil


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Originally Posted By: dawg66
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There are too many kids coming out of college with his measurables... a team is going to give an unknown that is 22 a shot before they give a known that is 30 another shot...



Then how do you explain Cassel, Matt Moore, Matt Schaub, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Charlie Whitehurst, Kellen Clemens, Dan Orlovsky, Shaun Hill, Matt Flynn, Drew Stanton and Tarvaris Jackson.


They are all NFL QBs with some level of NFL winning experience who are also not as football dumb as Brandon Weeden.


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The Browns cut Weeden after the [2013]season and he signed with the Cowboys. Weeden has lost 11 straight starts dating back to his rookie season of 2012 with the Browns; he was 0-3 as the Cowboys’ starter before getting replaced by Matt Cassel last month.

Yates was out of the league until the Texans cut Ryan Mallett last month.



Then Yates, who was out of the league until last month, went on to win the game in relief with a 4th quarter TD pass. Compare that to Weeden's 11 straight losses dating back to his rookie season and WTF?


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Can Colt McCoy be far behind in Houston?

The Redskins would probably give up RGIII before they gave up McCoy.. how weird does that look...


RG3's contract is for 16 million next year. He's going to be cut in the off season. Colt and Cousins are both UFA's next year too. What's weird is another team is in worse shape than we are at QB.


It will be interesting to see if they resolve their problems before we do. I bet they will...

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Can Colt McCoy be far behind in Houston?

The Redskins would probably give up RGIII before they gave up McCoy.. how weird does that look...


RG3's contract is for 16 million next year. He's going to be cut in the off season. Colt and Cousins are both UFA's next year too. What's weird is another team is in worse shape than we are at QB.


It will be interesting to see if they resolve their problems before we do. I bet they will...


A lot will depend on the next 6 games


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