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Re: OL in the draft Homewood Dog 12/31/25 06:18 PM
Possibly a team that might need a defensive player that they covet. There are some good D players coming out and the stock in some of the other players may go up after combines and pro days. Long way to go before the end of April.
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Re: What Now Milk Man 12/31/25 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...

It's Josina, who's gone off the deep end....let the speculation begin nevertheless!


It's not showing up for me. What did she say?

Browns have met with former GMs Tom Telesco and Chris Grier about senior roles.
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Re: Somalians PitDAWG 12/31/25 06:01 PM
Of course I believe that fraud was committed. Here is what I don't believe.......

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There needs to be quite a few politicians jailed for this scandal. Need to send a strong message to politicians that our tax dollars is not available for them to use to bring in foreigners to ensure their future votes.

You just spew crap. They can't vote.

Can you explain what you think any of the political officials in Minnesota did that constitutes a crime to be jailed for?

That's where you go off the rails. You make baseless claims rather than just sticking with the facts. Fraud was committed. A thorough investigation is being done and should continue. The people who are found to be involved in criminal activity deserve to be and should be prosecuted.

But there has been NOTHING found that implicates Minnesota officials for being involved in any criminal wrong doing.

I quoted that earlier in this thread to point out the part I found to be ridiculous. Try to keep up next time.
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Re: Quarterback Defined Day of the Dawg 12/31/25 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the insurance relief that kicks in for the upcoming season doesn't help us in getting rid of Watson before the end of next season. The dead money escalation that will happen is still too much (hence why we need to hold him for the 2026 season). That insurance relief will, however, allow us to function somewhat in FA.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

You're not wrong it does not help the team get rid of him. It will give the team 43 million in cap relief. If they hold on to Watson, his cap hit is less in 2026 than if they out right cut him. If I new coach came in like Sean Peyton did in Denver, they cut him and take the entire hit in 2026. They could cut him post June1st and spread the cap hit out over 2026 and 2027. I would assume a new coach will take the cap hit in year 1 and move forward with more cap space available in 2027. They can only do that by following what just happened this year and play 1st year players and a hand full undrafted free agents. Next year's team would be younger than this year's team but 95% of Watson's cap hit would then be off the books.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 oobernoober 12/31/25 05:14 PM
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
A coaching change now will set us back.

Most likely. There's always a chance that we do land the next big thing. I get what people are saying when they explain why they want Stefanski fired. I just don't think he's so bad that literally anyone out there would be a likely upgrade (it would end up like when we fired Chud and then scrambled practically the whole damn off-season only to end up with Pettine... that screams "no plan").
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Re: Ukraine: I really thought the recent thread would be the last Damanshot 12/31/25 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Another thing I find quite odd is this. They helped elect a man who is playing the part of Putin's puppet and then call us the communists. It really is true that every accusation they hurl at us is just another confession.

That's the way it works... They blame others for doing the exact thing they themselves are doing.
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool dawg66 12/31/25 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Congrats old lady.

Thanks son.
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Re: More Music bonefish 12/30/25 09:12 PM
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Re: The Hungry Dawgs Ballpeen 12/30/25 10:58 AM
Originally Posted by Bard Dawg
I agree with the Sanders part. He has improved some, but below what I would like to see in a starting QB yet. Part may be the different game called by OC. Not all is him by any metric, but it still has issues to address. Thanks for the win, but it was lousy in spots. Hats off to rooks who played well.

To add to your and Pits point, I don't think we could ever entertain keeping Sanders as a back up. His fanbase would be a major problem. That just wouldn't work.
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Re: OSU/ College Football YTownBrownsFan 12/30/25 03:31 AM
laugh

DJ Jacobs commits to Ohio State: Buckeyes make splash, land No. 1 prospect in 2027 class - CBS Sports
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...l-commitment-recruiting-no-1-2027-class/

Ohio State might have just landed its first of two big wins over Miami this week.

Days before the Buckeys and Hurricanes square off in the Cotton Bowl, where Ohio State is a 9.5-point favorite, Ohio State scored a stunning recruiting win Monday night when it landed landed a commitment from five-star edge rusher DJ Jacobs. The No. 1 overall prospect in the class of 2027, Jacobs committed to the Buckeyes live on CBS Sports HQ over a laundry list of high-level suitors -- including Miami, which was the perceived favorite headed into the announcement.

"Massive shocker," said Andrew Ivins, the Director of Scouting for 247Sports. "Ohio State is putting it all together and I love the fit. Defensive line coach Larry Johnson is perfect for Jacobs given what he's done with kids."

Jacobs is the ninth player to commit to Ohio State during the 2027 cycle.

Miami is not the only program wondering what went awry with one of the best defensive line prospects of the modern recruiting era. Jacobs preps at Blessed Trinity Catholic High School in Roswell, Georgia -- and he's a double Georgia legacy. His father, David, played defensive line for the Bulldogs and his mom, Desiree, played basketball at Georgia. Former Georgia coach Mark Richt is DJ's godfather.

"Cast-iron edge defender with the size, speed and strength to wreak havoc on Saturdays and then Sundays." 247Sports Director of Scouting Andrew Ivins wrote in his evaluation of Jacobs. "Projects as a future difference-maker for a College Football Playoff contender that can set the edge and get after the quarterback."

Should Jacobs keep his No. 1 ranking in the 2027 class, he would be the first defensive end prospect to maintain that ranking since the 2019 class.
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Re: Trump won’t rule out war with Venezuela mgh888 12/29/25 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
What law covers blowing up vessels and kill people because you accuse them of being a drug smuggler?


None.
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Trump administration using fraud law to target major companies on DEI PitDAWG 12/29/25 09:24 PM
The Trump administration is investigating diversity initiatives at major companies under the False Claims Act, a federal law the Justice Department uses to take action against contractors that defraud the government.

As USA TODAY reported in October, the DOJ earlier this year began issuing civil investigative demands to employers across a broad range of industries, directing them to turn over information about their diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

The use of CIDs – a legal tool that allows the government to gather information during a civil investigation and that usually is reserved to pursue government contractors that submit fraudulent bills for their services – has rattled corporate America because it leaves companies vulnerable to claims that could reach into the millions of dollars.

Among the companies that have received Justice Department investigative demands are Alphabet’s Google and Verizon Communications, the Wall Street Journal reported. Google could not be immediately reached for comment. Verizon declined to comment.

DOJ intensifies DEI scrutiny

Just hours after he took the oath of office, President Donald Trump issued executive orders to dismantle diversity programs and directed federal contractors to end "illegal DEI discrimination." Fearing lawsuits and the loss of government contracts, dozens of the nation’s largest companies from McDonald’s to Facebook owner Meta rolled back or eliminated DEI programs.

In May, the Justice Department signaled its intention to investigate federal contractors and grant recipients by creating the "Civil Rights Fraud Initiative," which threatens legal action under the False Claims Act, a civil law that allows the government to recover funds lost to fraud.

Government scrutiny has only intensified as the Trump administration moves aggressively to pressure employers into overhauling hiring practices to align with the president’s political agenda.

While testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee in July, Harmeet Dhillon, the assistant attorney general for civil rights, issued a warning about the Trump administration’s crackdown on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. During her testimony, Dhillon promised the Trump administration would bring "numerous investigations and lawsuits against institutions that continue to offend our federal civil rights laws."

"Either DEI will end on its own," Dhillon told senators, "or we will kill it."


False Claims Act lawsuits can be costly

Damages and penalties can quickly add up in False Claims Act lawsuits, lawyers told USA TODAY. Defendants are at risk of being held liable for three times the damages the government alleges.

What’s more, the DOJ is encouraging whistleblowers to file DEI lawsuits on the government’s behalf and potentially receive a portion of the windfall. Last year, the DOJ took in nearly $3 billion in False

Claims Act settlements and judgments.

Just the mere threat of a False Claims Act investigation is a powerful cudgel, lawyers say. And becoming a target of the Trump administration carries significant business risks, from reputational damage to shareholder class action lawsuits.

"I’ve had many leaders say to me, 'we are very confident from a purely legal perspective in what we are doing,'" David Glasgow, executive director of the Meltzer Center for Diversity, Inclusion and Belonging at the NYU School of Law, told USA TODAY in October. "And then a lot of them will say to me, 'none of that really matters if we have been dragged through the mud by this administration.'"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/12/29/dei-fraud-trump-investigations/87947879007/
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Re: DOJ, FBI conclude Jeffrey Epstein had no "client list," committed suicide northlima dawg 12/29/25 08:07 PM
Trump Yelled 'My Friends Will Get Hurt' at Marjorie Taylor Greene for Threatening to Name Epstein Abusers, She Claims
The Republican congresswoman, who is resigning her House seat on Jan. 5, claims her advocacy for Jeffrey Epstein's survivors is the reason President Donald Trump ultimately abandoned his support for her
Kyler Alvord
Mon, December 29, 2025 at 1:18 PM EST
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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene says her last conversation with President Donald Trump was about Jeffrey Epstein

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene went into depth about her falling out with President Donald Trump in a new profile for The New York Times

The soon-to-be-former congresswoman said that her advocacy for survivors of Jeffrey Epstein drove the final wedge between them, claiming, "Epstein was everything"

A White House spokesperson responded to Greene's profile in a statement to PEOPLE, saying, "we don’t have time for her petty bitterness"

Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene is offering more details about her falling out with President Donald Trump, saying the final straw revolved around her push for more government transparency surrounding sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.

In an exhaustive new profile for The New York Times that chronicles the longtime MAGA ally's fracture with her former leader, Greene told journalist Robert Draper that her small disagreements with Trump throughout the year likely got on his nerves, "but it was Epstein" that drove the ultimate wedge between them. "Epstein was everything."



“The Epstein files represent everything wrong with Washington,” Greene, 51, told the Times for the Dec. 29 profile, which was based on multiple interviews with the outgoing Republican congresswoman. “Rich, powerful elites doing horrible things and getting away with it. And the women are the victims.”

In September, Greene spoke directly to Epstein survivors during a closed-door House Oversight hearing, which moved her to fight for accountability on their behalf. After leaving the hearing, she rallied reporters and publicly threatened that, if necessary, she would work with victims to reveal the names of Epstein's associates who perpetrated sexual abuse against women and girls.

That threat, she said, resulted in a hostile phone call from the president — their last proper conversation.

According to the Times, which heard about the call through both Greene and one of her staffers, Trump, 79, rang her Capitol Hill office to voice his frustration with her public advocacy on the issue. The whole office could allegedly hear him yelling at her on speakerphone, according to her staffer.



Greene claimed that when she expressed confusion to Trump on the call over his resistance to outing Epstein's potential conspirators, the president told her, "My friends will get hurt."

When she suggested that the president could invite Epstein survivors to the Oval Office to show that their stories were being heard, the president allegedly said that they had not done anything to earn such an honor, according to Greene's account of the conversation.


Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene speaks alongside Epstein survivors at a Sept. 3 press conference in support of the bipartisan Epstein Files Transparency Act
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When reached by PEOPLE for comment, the White House dismissed Greene's comments to the Times as "petty bitterness."

“President Trump remains the undisputed leader of the greatest and fastest growing political movement in American history — the MAGA movement," White House spokesperson Davis Ingle said in a statement. "On the other hand, Congresswoman Greene is quitting on her constituents in the middle of her term and abandoning the consequential fight we’re in — we don’t have time for her petty bitterness.”

Greene — who is formally resigning from Congress on Jan. 5 over her refusal to be a so-called "battered wife" to Trump — previously described her explosive phone call with Trump during a recent 60 Minutes interview.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Goes Scorched Earth on Trump in Splashy NYT Feature — Claims ‘He Does Not Have Any Faith’ and Her Epstein Stand Was Last Straw


“We did talk about the Epstein files, and he was extremely angry at me that I had signed the discharge petition to release the files,” Greene told CBS News' Lesley Stahl at the time, referring to her decision to sign a U.S. House petition pushing the government to release all documents related to Epstein.

When Stahl asked Greene to further describe what Trump said, she paused. “He said that it was going to hurt people,” the congresswoman replied.

Davidoff Studios/Getty  Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump pose together at Mar-a-Lago in 1997
Davidoff Studios/Getty

With Greene's help, the House passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act in a stunning 427-1 vote on Nov. 18, and the bill was unanimously approved by the Senate.

Trump signed the bill into law the following day, which gave the federal government 30 days to release all remaining files related to the sex trafficking investigation into Epstein. The bill allowed for some exceptions — such as withholding anything that is classified, or that could identify victims or interfere with an active federal investigation — giving the Department of Justice the ability to be selective about what they release and what information is redacted.

The DOJ missed the deadline to release all files by Dec. 19, and has been uploading thousands of pages of files on a rolling basis, often with major redactions that omit significant context.

So far, information that has been released includes photos of Epstein with powerful men like Trump, Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson — none of whom have been accused of wrongdoing in relation to Epstein — and an uncorroborated rape claim made against Trump shortly before the 2020 election, which the DOJ characterized as "untrue and sensationalist."

Want to keep up with the latest crime coverage? Sign up for PEOPLE's free True Crime newsletter for breaking crime news, ongoing trial coverage and details of intriguing unsolved cases.

There were also some dubious pieces of visual evidence that ended up on the DOJ website, including a clearly fake video of Epstein's jail-cell suicide that was uploaded and later removed.

On Dec. 23, PEOPLE discovered an unauthenticated suicide note from "J. Epstein" to sex offender Larry Nassar among the files, which accused Trump of sharing their "love of young, nubile girls."

The White House initially declined to comment on the unverified note, instead referring PEOPLE to a DOJ statement about how the Epstein files include some "unfounded" allegations against the president.

Hours after PEOPLE and other outlets had reported on the strange note that appeared in the files, the White House reached back out to PEOPLE with new statements from the DOJ that said an FBI investigation had just determined the note was "FAKE" and warned not to trust the legitimacy of all documents included in the Epstein files, seemingly casting doubt on the newly unsealed evidence as a whole.



Epstein survivor Haley Robson, center, stands beside Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene at a Nov. 18 press conference on Capitol Hill
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Reacting to the messy rollout of the files, Epstein survivor Haley Robson, a Republican, told CNN, "I am no longer supporting this administration. I redact any support I've ever given to him, Pam Bondi, Kash Patel. I am so disgusted with this administration."


"I think that Pam Bondi and Kash Patel both need to resign, and I would love to see No. 47 get impeached over this," Robson added.

She then appeared to reference comments from Trump made on Dec. 22, when the president said it's a "terrible thing" that photos of famous people were being released in the Epstein files, because some "had nothing to do with Epstein" and simply happened to cross paths with him at some point.

"If you're telling the public and the world and the survivors that just because somebody is in a picture with him doesn't automatically mean they were involved in the crimes against children — which I understand, and I get that fully — then why are you so scared to release the files and why has there been so much resistance?" Robson wondered aloud.

"If it's just a picture, why are you going above and beyond to hide the identities of these men?"
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Re: China Targets Domestic Demand; Trade Surplus Tops $1 Trillion northlima dawg 12/29/25 07:34 PM
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Re: college quarterback prospects oobernoober 12/29/25 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
In the pre-game "College Gameday" coverage.

They went into detail about Mateer's broken thumb. X-rays reports with doctors. Interviews with Mateer and others.

It blew my mind. He broke his thumb in a game and kept playing. Finished the game. Goes to the locker room and gets an x-ray.

Broken right at the base of his thumb. He gets surgery by a renowned hand specialist. Three screws are inserted into the bone to stabilize it. We are talking about his throwing hand.

He comes back in 17 days and plays.

Imagine trying to throw a football with a broken thumb. Your thumb is what you grip with. It is what makes us able to do all hand tasks.

He is playing games with tape on his thumb. The way he plays includes running the ball. You can see him protecting his hand while getting tackled.

His coaches and teammates are in awe of this guy.

His numbers take a dive. He goes from a Heisman candidate to struggling. And still wins games and leads his team to the playoffs.

His ability as a runner is unique. He is shifty and powerful but what stands out is his vision. He finds a way to go forward under chaos.

His arm talent jumps off the screen. Fast release from a low delivery similar to Allen. He can spin it.

Long way to the draft but right now he considered a top 50 guy. Not a first rounder.

Myself, I would draft Mateer in the second.

I would LOVE to grab a guy that falls like this after grabbing our LT of the future and another (needed) roster piece.
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Re: Rams Fire Soecial Teams Coordinator YTownBrownsFan 12/29/25 05:20 PM
156 tackles, 2.5 Sacks, 2 INT, 11 TFL, 9 QB Hits, and he called the defense since day 1.

I wish that all of our draft picks could "bust" like that.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? oobernoober 12/29/25 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
I have not forgotten 9/11 have you? I think it is still of the number 1 importance to fight radical Muslim extremist around the globe. They are a plage to our country and society in general. Israel is doing the same and by the way there are a lot less terrorists in Gaza than there used to be.

I'm curious, then, how you feel about the deal Trump cut with the Taliban that had us pull out of Afghanistan?
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Re: Political Jokes Pt. 4 PitDAWG 12/29/25 04:44 PM
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Re: Log on difficulties... 3rd_and_20 12/29/25 01:41 AM
Hey Purp -

Is it the actual board that is malfunctioning at times, or something else? Because I was thinking if it was the actual message board maybe it's time to try taking dawgtalkers to another board?

The old 'official' Cleveland Browns dot com board was nice. Never had any problems with it. I don't know who hosted it though.
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Re: Player News Damanshot 12/27/25 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Jester
No way it caused a lung issue


Depends if you hit the lung... So yeah, it can. I've had it done. For me, it didn't work.... But yeah, done wrong, it can be dangerous. But don't take my word for it.. Google it.
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Re: Media and Shedeur FORTBROWNFAN 12/25/25 08:55 PM
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Originally Posted by 10YrOvernightSuccess
There were more than a few of us wringing hands about the fact they they didn't really address OL last off season. I've wondered if Berry didn't expect to try to solve it in the draft but then he (rightfully) couldn't resist the way certain players fell to him and it just went away from OL. I don't quibble with his 2025 draft, except maybe the two QB tango.. which would have been the perfect rounds to get guards and backup tackles. But there were plenty of people worried about our super injury prone and thin OL heading into game 1. Saw it a mile away.

We're going to need at least 5 new guys next year. Damn near the whole room. Problem is I've read how a more teams have critical need at OL than most years and there'll likely be a lot of competition for FA's, trades and draft. I expect a few early picks but I'd have half my scouts looking at small and off brand schools for big chunks of quality clay on day two, three and after.

The pick made right after the Browns selected Dillon Gabriel was Jared Wilson G/C from Georgia who has been a starter on New England's offensive line all season. Gabriel was selected 2 rounds earlier than projected and Wilson would have been a great get for the Browns. That was far and away the biggest miss in the 2025 NFL draft for the Browns.

For the 5th time, Gabriel was not selected 2 rounds earlier than he was projected, at least by most of the reputable "experts". He certainly was on a few; most had as Rd 3-4. When we drafted him I searched multiple sites and only 1 or 2 had in the 4-5 range, not even specifically round 5. Most was 3-4 and a few others round 3.
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Re: Merry Christmas! 3rd_and_20 12/25/25 06:52 PM
Merry Christmas everybody!
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Re: Genocide. mgh888 12/25/25 05:06 PM
Belgium joins South Africa's genocide case against Israel | The Times of Israel https://share.google/OSxgqckCzv6AIedIC

Countries are at least paying attention... Even if the so called Christians of Dawgtalkers are blind to the atrocities being committed
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Re: Rob Reiner PitDAWG 12/25/25 04:22 PM
It's streaming on Netflix now.
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Re: Christmas tunes PitDAWG 12/25/25 03:33 PM
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