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Re: Lamar bonefish 11/02/26 06:55 PM
I watched "Get Up" this morning and it was a topic.

They asked the question is he done in Baltimore?

I don't know all the ins and outs. They made it sound like his time with the Ravens may be over.
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Re: I hate to say I told you so but. . . . . . . oobernoober 11/02/26 06:45 PM
I'd be more worried about your team splitting to a rebuilding team with the second-youngest rosters in the NFL.

You only post on here when your team is doing well, and you've been posting less and less.
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Re: Why the Dems? OCD 11/02/26 06:35 PM
This is why the dems from a republican trump voter…

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Re: Jeremiah Smith Bandwagon bonefish 11/02/26 06:01 PM
I wonder about Manning.

I have only watched bits and pieces of him playing.

What I have seen was a guy with good tools but questionable decision making.

I really don't know if he will live up to the hype of his name?

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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 11/02/26 05:49 PM
Democrats Urge Haley Stevens to Endorse Republicans in Every Other State

Hoping to clinch his Senate race, James Talarico begged Stevens to appear at a church service with Ken Paxton.
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Re: Defeated presidential candidate Flávio Bolsonaro and his family land in Miami after fleeing Brazil PitDAWG 11/02/26 05:48 PM
rofl
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Re: Clemdawg R.I.P. 10/31/2026 dawg66 11/02/26 05:27 PM
So sad, I never got the chance to meet Clem but we talked a few times about his cello playing and about his association with Longtown, a black community started in the early 1800's in Darke County, Ohio. He will be greatly missed. RIP Clemdawg.
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The LIE- Biden and Dems did nothing to stop the border crisis mac 11/02/26 03:53 PM
Border Bill Breakdown: Debunking the Myth that Biden and Harris Did Nothing About the Crisis

 Posted on September 15, 2024 by Fact and Myth
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Table of Contents
..The Border Patrol Union Endorsed the Bill
..Trump’s Role in Killing the Bill
..What Really Happened?

...Facts and Myths About the Border Bill
...Myth: The bill w ould have forced migrants fleeing dangerous situations to return home. ...Myth: The President already had all the power needed to secure the border.
...Myth: The bill would have made the border crisis worse by allowing 5,000 migrants into the country per day.
...Myth: Migrants would have been paroled into the U.S. without restrictions.
...Myth: The bill would have provided taxpayer-funded legal counsel for all migrants.
...Myth: The bill eliminated due process for migrants.
...Myth: The bill would have allowed all undocumented migrants to receive work permits.

One common claim is that President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris have not taken action to address the border crisis. In fact, they backed a bipartisan effort, the Border Act of 2024, which was poised to pass earlier this year. The bill was a comprehensive immigration reform package designed to curb illegal crossings, strengthen the asylum process, and close loopholes exploited by criminal cartels.




However, despite gaining significant support from both sides of the aisle, the bill ultimately failed—not because it was ineffective, but because former President Donald Trump publicly denounced it. His opposition created a political roadblock, as Trump’s influence over Republican lawmakers meant that many who were previously on board suddenly reversed their positions.

The Border Patrol Union Endorsed the Bill

The claim that this bill wasn’t a serious effort is flat-out wrong. One of the most notable endorsements came from the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC), the labor union representing over 18,000 Border Patrol agents. This is significant because the NBPC had endorsed Trump in the 2020 election. Yet, the union stated clearly that the bipartisan bill “would drop illegal border crossings nationwide” and help agents regain control of border security.



The bill’s provisions were designed to end the practice of catch-and-release, streamline the asylum process, and provide new resources to manage migrant surges. It even included a mechanism to temporarily shut down the border if the number of encounters exceeded 5,000 per day, ensuring that the system would not be overwhelmed. Despite criticism from some conservative lawmakers, the bill was seen as one of the most comprehensive efforts in decades to manage the border effectively.

Trump’s Role in Killing the Bill The biggest obstacle to this bill wasn’t its content—it was Donald Trump. Initially, there was optimism that the bill would pass with bipartisan support. Even Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell encouraged his fellow Republicans to vote for it. But when Trump came out against the legislation, the political landscape shifted overnight.




Trump’s opposition wasn’t based on the bill’s merits but on his desire to campaign on the message that only he could fix the border crisis. Passing the Border Act under Biden’s administration would have undermined that narrative. Trump labeled the bill a “gift to Democrats” and pressured Republicans not to support it. His influence proved powerful, as only four Republican senators ultimately voted in favor of the bill. Even McConnell, who had co-authored and championed the bill, voted against it after Trump’s intervention. As Vice President Kamala Harris pointed out in a recent debate, Trump “preferred to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.” His strategy was clear: keep the border crisis unresolved to fuel his 2024 campaign.


What Really Happened?

The collapse of the Border Act of 2024 is a story of political influence, not policy failure. The bipartisan bill addressed key concerns about illegal crossings, asylum backlogs, and border security. The National Border Patrol Council saw it as a solution to many ongoing problems, yet it was stifled by Trump’s political agenda. While the Biden administration supported this bipartisan effort, Trump’s pressure on Republican lawmakers ensured its defeat. The result? Continued border challenges that could have been addressed months ago.

In reality, the claim that Biden and Harris “did nothing” about the border is inaccurate. They were part of a collaborative, bipartisan push to bring real reform. But when politics trumped policy, the chance for meaningful change slipped away—ironically, because of a president who once ran on a promise to solve this very crisis.

The border bill wasn’t perfect, but it was a significant step forward. And it’s time to set the record straight. The Biden administration didn’t ignore the border crisis; their efforts were blocked by the very person who claims only he can fix it.

Facts and Myths About the Border Bill

The Bipartisan Border Security Package was met with misinformation and misconceptions before it was ultimately defeated by Republican opposition. Here’s a breakdown of some of the most common myths about the bill and the actual facts behind it.

...Myth: The bill would have forced migrants fleeing dangerous situations to return home.

...Fact: The bill was designed to uphold American values by ensuring a fair and efficient asylum process. Migrants who faced genuine persecution would have received protection, while those without valid claims would have been swiftly removed. This streamlined system aimed to prioritize those in need and prevent the system from being overwhelmed.




...Myth: The President already had all the power needed to secure the border.

...Fact: The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) lacked the resources and updated policies needed to fully manage the border crisis. The bill sought to address gaps that previous administrations—under Biden, Trump, Obama, and Bush—also struggled with. By providing DHS with new authorities, the bill would have enabled the agency to close the border when overwhelmed, regardless of the administration in power.

...Myth: The bill would have made the border crisis worse by allowing 5,000 migrants into the country per day.

...Fact: The bill included a provision called the Border Emergency Authority (BEA), which would have allowed DHS to close the border if daily encounters exceeded 5,000. This safeguard was put in place to ensure the system wouldn’t be overwhelmed by surges and would only reopen when operational control could be restored.

...Myth: Migrants would have been paroled into the U.S. without restrictions.

...Fact: The bill did not expand parole for migrants crossing the border unlawfully. Instead, it would have ensured that migrants who did not qualify for asylum were swiftly removed from the U.S. It retained humanitarian parole for emergencies but enforced stricter standards for those entering unlawfully, ensuring proper processing and removal.

...Myth: The bill would have provided taxpayer-funded legal counsel for all migrants.

...Fact: The bill only offered government-appointed counsel to young, unaccompanied children—not adults. For adults, the bill confirmed their right to hire an attorney, but any legal representation would have been at their own expense.

...Myth: The bill eliminated due process for migrants.

...Fact: The bill aimed to strengthen due process by speeding up the handling of asylum claims and reducing the backlog. Migrants would have been able to request administrative review of their claims within a much shorter timeframe. This provision was meant to ensure faster, fairer decisions without the years-long delays that currently burden the system.

...Myth: The bill would have allowed all undocumented migrants to receive work permits.

...Fact: Only migrants who passed a higher-standard asylum screening would have been eligible for work permits under this bill. Migrants who failed to meet the standard would have been removed from the country. The bill focused on granting work permits only to those with legitimate claims to protection.

In the end, despite the comprehensive approach to fixing border security issues, the Bipartisan Border Security Package failed to pass. Misinformation about the bill’s provisions played a role, but the final blow came from political pressures, including opposition from key figures within the Republican Party. While the bill aimed to address the border crisis in a balanced and practical way, it ultimately did not become law.
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Re: Random NFL News FATE 11/02/26 03:24 PM
Not news, but this is hilarious. I saw the boxscore and thought it was never updated during the game. 0-3. that was his passing stats for a full game yesterday. (They rushed for 324 yards)


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Re: Republicans are the Devil ~ Part 666 FATE 11/02/26 03:19 PM
The only ad I enjoyed in the least was the Sherrod Brown/ Texas Chainsaw skit. That was at least creative and good for a laugh.

The mailbox fliers are about the highest quality I've ever seen. It's like they're showing off how much money they're throwing away.


Anyway. There is no doubt, this is the worst and most saturated the airwaves have ever been, from my view. I do not look forward to the next cycle.

The two most important things we could ever hope to change remain: term limits and money in politics.
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Re: Potential Razorthorns 11/01/26 08:51 PM
Originally Posted by Bard Dawg
Happy birthday! Enjoy it all!


Thanks man! A win would have been a nice birthday present sigh ...
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Re: OSU/ College Football waterdawg 11/01/26 07:41 PM
Jfanent , I was only able to watch into the early part of the 3rd quarter .. Up to that point I felt sorry for then kid .. Running for his life.. Non consistent play calling . Dont care much for Arthur Smith..
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Re: Sometimes, We Need Positive Stories bonefish 10/31/26 09:49 PM
I have been feeding hummingbirds for many years.

One got all tangled up in a spider web and could not fly. I caught him and took an old soft toothbrush and cleaned him up.
I could tell he was stressed out. I put him in an overturned basket for an hour with some water.

I held him in my hand gently and went out on my deck and opened my hand. At first he just sat there. And after a minute or two took off.
When they migrate in the winter they return in April to exactly where they spend summer and nest. They come back to my yard.
It is so cool because they recognize you and it is very obvious.

I hunted very early when I was a teen. I knew quickly I didn't like taking a life. Hell all the fish I have caught in my life I probably didn't eat a dozen.

My backyard is a mature hardwood and pine forest. It is all natural. I have a bird bath on the deck. With the "Merlin" app I have identified 38 species of birds. They are like my outdoor pets.

I respect life and pay close attention to the world around me way more than the Internet.
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Re: QB Dillon Gabriel Activated from IR Razorthorns 10/31/26 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
True but it's not like Gabriel is some great veteran QB. We can afford to let him go I think.

I don't get to see practices and stuff, but if it were up to me I'd like to see both 2nd year QBs in Monken's system before sending them elsewhere. Who's to say they wouldn't also play better under a different coach/system?


... this is assuming no team wants to do a AJ McCarron type trade (minus faulty fax machines).


To me Dillon is too short to be a serious option at QB and he is a bit of a whiney brat who doesn't inspire his team mates. Sanders has a better arm and he has great charisma so the guys will play harder for him. I don't think either of them are great QBs but I think Sanders has far more potential than the runt Dillon. JMHO.

I never much liked the "too short" argument regarding Gabriel and similar QBs. Obviously, taller is better but there is no such thing as a minimum height requirement.

For me, I still haven't quite changed my mindset from thinking this was going to be a "throwaway season", so I was hoping to see if Monken could awaken something in our younger QBs. Now that Watson is playing competently and we are stacking wins and looking like we are going to remain competitive, it's looking more and more likely we won't have the usual lost season where we end up starting 3-4 different QBs.

I don't like short QB's period. They can't see over the offensive line and end up making blind throws into zones where they just have to trust the WR's to BE THERE. I just hate that. Also, shorter QBs have to change the angle that they throw to arc the ball up and over the offensive line vs throwing it on a rope in a straight direction. This means their balls travel through the air slower and are more likely to be intercepted on short to medium passes but tend to have greater touch on longer passes when they drop into the bucket if they have the arm strength to throw it that far. Dillon doesn't really have the arm talent for those throws.

I would say the minimum height a QB should be is 6'2'' but I would prefer they be at least 6'5" so they can see the field better and so they can throw faster straight throws. NFL teams agree with this as they usually look for taller QBs for this reason. Trevor Lawrence (6'6"), Justin Herbert (6'6"), Josh Allen (6'5"), Daniel Jones (6'5"), Joe Burrow (6'4"), Drake Maye (6'4"), Matthew Stafford (6'3"), etc. You get the idea. Obviously there are short QBs that get it done but they are the exception to the rule and not the norm. Dillon is not the exception to the rule imho but he is a good kid for the most part and I don't mind him being a Brown as a back up QB.
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Re: Trump Promises Voters Things He Could Do Now Bard Dawg 10/31/26 07:07 PM
"So tired of winning." Trump
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Re: A couple of Stas going into Pit. PitDAWG 10/31/26 03:56 PM
And we saw what a huge difference that makes in how a QB performs last week when watson was only sacked once. The OL providing watson the protection he needs while getting pressure on Rodgers will be critical ingredients in this game. That along with continuing a successful running game.
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Re: Coin help Frenchy 10/30/26 03:31 PM
Try an app called coinsnap. I started going through coins about a month ago, this app may help you get started.
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Re: Captain Picard Engages to the Afterlife Bard Dawg 10/30/26 03:08 PM
Professor Xavier and Picard. Quite an actor, especially if you caught some of his Shakespeare rolls. Thanks for your body of work and quality SF over the years. High respect for his roles and his success. Thanks for our delighted viewing and reading. RIP. "Make it so" and "Engage."
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Re: Trump Is Putin's Puppet. PitDAWG 10/30/26 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by BADdog
If we really knew what trumps relationship with putin really is. I bet even republicans would immediately impeach him.

Why? They don't care about anything he says or does. Convicted felon and they elected him president. Jury finds he sexually assaulted a woman. No problem they still elected him president.

When Trump said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" it sounded crazy. But over time I've learned he is probably about 90% correct.
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Re: Deshaun Watson today Razorthorns 10/30/26 05:15 AM
I agree.
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Re: More Music PitDAWG 10/29/26 07:33 PM
Rememberng Duanne Allman, who died on this day in 1971 at the young age of 24..................

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Re: What If? bonefish 10/29/26 01:45 PM
Egg on face. MMmmm good.

I for sure never saw this coming. I felt strongly that DW was toast.

It started as I thought it would. Then they started winning. There really is no such thing as winning ugly. There is only winning.

Then came the Titans games. The run game showed up. The OL blocked. DW had time to throw. The offense put up with 491 yards.

What the holy hell is going on here?

Ok, "what if" we beat the Steelers in their yard? All of a sudden the Browns chances to make the playoffs are 80% to 85%.

PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS?

What? How could this be happening?

Maybe we should all go back to being depressed. Bitching about every part of this team. Calling on coaches to be fired and players cut.

Damn what a bright sunny day it is today. Blue sky never looked so pretty.

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Re: Fun with Power rankings jeepnstein 10/28/26 02:42 PM
I expect the wheels to fall off the bus at any time. And honestly, I won't be that upset when it does. But right now this is a fun ride. They are learning how to win games that they would have thrown away in previous seasons. There's no down side to these close ones except maybe on fans' cardiovascular health.

This is not a serious deep into the playoffs kind of team. It is a solid middle of the pack maybe contender for the AFC North. Compared to what I, and many others, expected a few months back this is a gift.

Yes, I fully expect them to beat Pittsburgh. Its just that kind of year.
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Re: Donnie Iris Passes Dawgs4Life 10/27/26 11:00 PM
RIP to a legend is right .. sad to hear
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Re: CORRUPTIONLAND Documentary bonefish 10/27/26 08:17 PM
What did people expect? I mean he is a convicted criminal. He has been convicted of fraud.

His history could not be more clear. He is corrupt. He will continue to be so. Nothing has changed except that he is using his position to gain more money for his entire family.

It is a criminal's dream. It is so easy. It is literally taking candy from a baby. He doesn't have to worry about being caught.
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