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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 Squires 11/04/26 11:09 PM
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Re: The 2026 US. Midterm Election Squires 11/04/26 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by BADdog
Maybe young people wont be saddled with an ever growing largest national debt in history.

The democrats have no plans to address this. They are all about spending. Getting the national debt under control requires spending cuts. We can't tax our way out of this. The cumulative wealth of all billionaires in the country, I've seen numbers ranging from 5-8 trillion. Even if you taxed them at 100%, you still have 32 trillion in national debt. Cuts need to be made to get this under control. Waste needs to be identified and eliminated. I'd start with a 10-15% budget cut across the board. No exceptions. Let the people managing the departments that are closest to the work make the call on what to cut, not some 3rd party like DOGE. Will it be painful? Absolutely. We can take some pain now or wait for it to all come crashing down.
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Well, that's new Bull_Dawg 11/04/26 10:16 PM
Anyone else getting weird ad buttons in the middle of posts now?
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Re: Jeremiah Smith Bandwagon Bull_Dawg 11/04/26 09:58 PM
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
So, I have some fundamental flaws with the plan.

1) I don't think Sanders is a 4500 yard per year QB. It doesn't matter the number of sockets you have in the set if the wrench is broken. Until the Browns build an offensive line capable of 150 yards rushing per game. Teams will find ways to neutralize the receivers without competence at QB. It takes a live arm to utilize guys like Smith, Boston and Concepcion.

2) Green isn't "that" guy. He is built more to make things happen, a poor man's Lamar. If you want the guy who will help get you to the 150 yards rushing per game, you aren't going to need an over load of WRs.

3) If neither 1. or 2. above are your answer at QB, giving up (3) first rounders for one guy that doesn't have the one tool he needs in place to succeed isn't just wasting his career, it's wasting the other two POSITIONS that you might have filled with the extra guys you gave up. I think we can all agree we are going to need help in the very near future at CB, EDGE and O-Line. We can keep filling those holes with 3rd rounders... but then we will continue talking about what are we going to do to upgrade the position.

QBs are not a dime a dozen, it is the most important position on a football team and it isn't close. Spending capital on someone you are convinced could fix the position for the next 15 years is a plan worth executing. Spending (3) firsts in a WR, where there are examples of really good players, and they actually become available in free agency on a regular basis as well, in my humble opinion is not.

Now, if the Rams pick ends up in the top (3) and two QBs go 1-2 and he is sitting there. THEN it depends on that QB we've all been discussing... Is one of the first two taken your guy, or is he still sitting there. If he's there, take him. If he is gone, I would LOVE to have Smith in a Browns uniform in the hopes that you can make magic happen with other picks in either this or the next draft to get an upgrade at QB... not in the 5th round mind you, someone WORTHY of a high draft pick.

I just want to thank you for your detailed response even if I don't agree with everything. I just love to see good arguments.

1)I don't think Sanders is a 4500 yard per year QB either. Then again neither is Burrows. Could we get a reliable 3500 yards if we draft Smith though? Yes, and very easily so. Sanders has the ability to throw the ball well. He just has to speed up his decision making and at the end of last year he was starting to show that it was possible.

2)I agree that Green is a poor man's Lamar. The thing is, Lamar was not so great either until Monken taught him how to be a better passer. Sadly Lamar doesn't seem to be able to stay healthy. I see Green as more of a Kordell Stewart role myself and think he would be great for that. Sanders as the starter and Green as his back up. I would love to see Green become the holder for the field goal kicker. A fake field goal where he takes off is scary with his speed.

3) Tell me what Elite QB we are going to draft in the next two years when we are making the playoffs? We won't be. Maybe LA's pick turns into gold but I doubt they keep losing once Myles recovers from his surgery as it was only a knee scope to clean up his knee. So in reality we are not drafting a great QB anytime soon. We just aren't. Any good ones if there are any will be taken long before we can pick him up and teams seldom trade down from picking a QB.

QBs are not even a nickel a dozen anymore. All I see in the last several years are a bunch of bleh. None of them seem that exciting to me. Are there any you like that you think are worth passing on the best WR to come out in at least a decade like Smith? I just don't see anyone worth passing him up or believe we would have the draft capital to land said QB. Hell, I am not even sure if Smith doesn't become the number 1 overall pick and becomes impossible for us to trade up and get. I just want Smith because I think he would elevate our offense to an elite level even with Sanders throwing him the ball or God forbid ... Watson throwing him the ball.

1) My problem with taking Smith after a giant trade up package is that if we did so he would probably immediately blow out his knee, get addicted to oxy, and drive the wrong way down a highway directly into a semi after finding out he also had stage IV prostate cancer. It's just how those moves work out for the Browns. More seriously, we've already heavily invested in the position. From a roster management perspective, pushing the investment to almost 5 first round picks at the position in 2 years doesn't really make sense.

2) The revisionist history on Lamar is wild. He won league MVP (unanimously, if I'm reading profootballreference right link) in his first full year as the starter with Greg Roman as his OC.

3) Lamar lasted to the end of the first round. Figuring out who the elite QBs are isn't an exact science, yet they still tend to generally go somewhere in round one if they may have a chance. Practically eliminating the possibility of having a chance at an elite rookie QB for the next two years seems misguided. Especially when it seems to be to over-invest at a position we just heavily invested in and those investments look to have been good ones.

Personally, I'm more looking at pass rushers and OTs. Also kind of wondering how far Mensah and Chambliss might last. They don't have the measurables to go Gaga over, but they can play the position. I'm probably not trading up for either, but if they are sitting there for us, I'm considering them strongly.

That's not to say he isn't a great player, but we have much bigger needs, and I'm not trading up for "luxury" tempting as it may be.
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Re: Random NFL News Milk Man 11/04/26 07:54 PM
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Re: The LIE- Biden and Dems did nothing to stop the border crisis PitDAWG 11/04/26 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I can support Dems, but once you start bringing radical Islam and communism in to your tent, no way.

Where and who is this "radical Islam" being brought into the "tent"? And where is the "communism" you speak of?

You throw these words around all the time while never providing any evidence to support it.
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool 2026 FATE 11/04/26 02:38 PM
Congrats Jules! You're the first person to see 10 wins in four weeks!
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Re: What If? bonefish 11/04/26 01:52 PM
There are no sure things in the draft.

History has proved that.

Herbert is a damn good quarterback. He has experience and yet he is still young.

He would be a massive upgrade at quarterback. He would come to a young team with a talented core at skill positions.

I don't want to get juiced because I don't believe it will happen.
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Re: More Music bonefish 11/03/26 11:32 PM
I have heard this classic done by many. Jade does it as well as anyone.

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Re: Trump Is Putin's Puppet. PitDAWG 11/03/26 07:15 PM
But whatabout Russia's diesel fuel?! Ukraine are monsters for attacking that!
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Re: Why the Dems? PitDAWG 11/03/26 04:46 PM
Democratic Representative Haley Stevens of Michigan withdrew her endorsement of her party’s Senate nominee, Abdul El-Sayed, and endorsed Republican Mike Rogers on November 1, 2026, explicitly citing that El-Sayed had publicly uninvited her from campaigning with him.

During a joint news conference with Rogers on November 1, 2026, Stevens stated that El-Sayed made it clear she "was not welcome in his campaign". Her decision followed a public speech by El-Sayed on October 31 where he openly stated he no longer wanted her to join him at a planned unity event.

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I'm so glad this woman saw the overall good in other party?

An act of vindictiveness isn't seeing the good in the other party. Those are two totally different things.

I would like to remind you that it wasn't until two days after she openly admitted she was endorsing Rogers because El-Sayed didn't want her at her rally she felt the need to try and walk that back by saying this..............

On November 3, 2026, Stevens defended her crossing of party lines as a "decision of conscience," asserting that while she disagrees with Rogers on many core issues like abortion and labor, she concluded El-Sayed was "not fit to serve".

But she thought he was "fit to serve" before that? This one is pretty obvious.
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Re: Lamar Homewood Dog 11/03/26 03:25 PM
Who knows maybe he would want to reunite with Monken. If he does, we better have some good backups LOL !
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Re: Defeated presidential candidate Flávio Bolsonaro and his family land in Miami after fleeing Brazil PitDAWG 11/03/26 02:44 PM
But you have been shown it isn't larger. In fact it is much, much smaller. Does that move the needle for you?
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Re: Potential JPPT1974 11/03/26 05:19 AM
After a slow start, your kicker really is a keeper you all.
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Re: Clemdawg R.I.P. 10/31/2026 WooferDawg 11/02/26 08:18 PM
Terrible news. One of the more articulate and thoughtful posters on this site.
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Re: I hate to say I told you so but. . . . . . . oobernoober 11/02/26 06:45 PM
I'd be more worried about your team splitting to a rebuilding team with the second-youngest rosters in the NFL.

You only post on here when your team is doing well, and you've been posting less and less.
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Re: Republicans are the Devil ~ Part 666 FATE 11/02/26 03:19 PM
The only ad I enjoyed in the least was the Sherrod Brown/ Texas Chainsaw skit. That was at least creative and good for a laugh.

The mailbox fliers are about the highest quality I've ever seen. It's like they're showing off how much money they're throwing away.


Anyway. There is no doubt, this is the worst and most saturated the airwaves have ever been, from my view. I do not look forward to the next cycle.

The two most important things we could ever hope to change remain: term limits and money in politics.
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Re: OSU/ College Football waterdawg 11/01/26 07:41 PM
Jfanent , I was only able to watch into the early part of the 3rd quarter .. Up to that point I felt sorry for then kid .. Running for his life.. Non consistent play calling . Dont care much for Arthur Smith..
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Re: Sometimes, We Need Positive Stories bonefish 10/31/26 09:49 PM
I have been feeding hummingbirds for many years.

One got all tangled up in a spider web and could not fly. I caught him and took an old soft toothbrush and cleaned him up.
I could tell he was stressed out. I put him in an overturned basket for an hour with some water.

I held him in my hand gently and went out on my deck and opened my hand. At first he just sat there. And after a minute or two took off.
When they migrate in the winter they return in April to exactly where they spend summer and nest. They come back to my yard.
It is so cool because they recognize you and it is very obvious.

I hunted very early when I was a teen. I knew quickly I didn't like taking a life. Hell all the fish I have caught in my life I probably didn't eat a dozen.

My backyard is a mature hardwood and pine forest. It is all natural. I have a bird bath on the deck. With the "Merlin" app I have identified 38 species of birds. They are like my outdoor pets.

I respect life and pay close attention to the world around me way more than the Internet.
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Re: QB Dillon Gabriel Activated from IR Razorthorns 10/31/26 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
True but it's not like Gabriel is some great veteran QB. We can afford to let him go I think.

I don't get to see practices and stuff, but if it were up to me I'd like to see both 2nd year QBs in Monken's system before sending them elsewhere. Who's to say they wouldn't also play better under a different coach/system?


... this is assuming no team wants to do a AJ McCarron type trade (minus faulty fax machines).


To me Dillon is too short to be a serious option at QB and he is a bit of a whiney brat who doesn't inspire his team mates. Sanders has a better arm and he has great charisma so the guys will play harder for him. I don't think either of them are great QBs but I think Sanders has far more potential than the runt Dillon. JMHO.

I never much liked the "too short" argument regarding Gabriel and similar QBs. Obviously, taller is better but there is no such thing as a minimum height requirement.

For me, I still haven't quite changed my mindset from thinking this was going to be a "throwaway season", so I was hoping to see if Monken could awaken something in our younger QBs. Now that Watson is playing competently and we are stacking wins and looking like we are going to remain competitive, it's looking more and more likely we won't have the usual lost season where we end up starting 3-4 different QBs.

I don't like short QB's period. They can't see over the offensive line and end up making blind throws into zones where they just have to trust the WR's to BE THERE. I just hate that. Also, shorter QBs have to change the angle that they throw to arc the ball up and over the offensive line vs throwing it on a rope in a straight direction. This means their balls travel through the air slower and are more likely to be intercepted on short to medium passes but tend to have greater touch on longer passes when they drop into the bucket if they have the arm strength to throw it that far. Dillon doesn't really have the arm talent for those throws.

I would say the minimum height a QB should be is 6'2'' but I would prefer they be at least 6'5" so they can see the field better and so they can throw faster straight throws. NFL teams agree with this as they usually look for taller QBs for this reason. Trevor Lawrence (6'6"), Justin Herbert (6'6"), Josh Allen (6'5"), Daniel Jones (6'5"), Joe Burrow (6'4"), Drake Maye (6'4"), Matthew Stafford (6'3"), etc. You get the idea. Obviously there are short QBs that get it done but they are the exception to the rule and not the norm. Dillon is not the exception to the rule imho but he is a good kid for the most part and I don't mind him being a Brown as a back up QB.
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Re: Trump Promises Voters Things He Could Do Now Bard Dawg 10/31/26 07:07 PM
"So tired of winning." Trump
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Re: A couple of Stas going into Pit. PitDAWG 10/31/26 03:56 PM
And we saw what a huge difference that makes in how a QB performs last week when watson was only sacked once. The OL providing watson the protection he needs while getting pressure on Rodgers will be critical ingredients in this game. That along with continuing a successful running game.
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Re: Coin help Frenchy 10/30/26 03:31 PM
Try an app called coinsnap. I started going through coins about a month ago, this app may help you get started.
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Re: Captain Picard Engages to the Afterlife Bard Dawg 10/30/26 03:08 PM
Professor Xavier and Picard. Quite an actor, especially if you caught some of his Shakespeare rolls. Thanks for your body of work and quality SF over the years. High respect for his roles and his success. Thanks for our delighted viewing and reading. RIP. "Make it so" and "Engage."
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Re: Deshaun Watson today Razorthorns 10/30/26 05:15 AM
I agree.
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