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Re: Deshaun Watson today bugs 10/03/26 08:02 PM
Jack Duffin posts two good reads.

Originally Posted by Jack Duffin
Browns 2026 Cap Space $14m

Remaining 2027 Cash Budget $193m For Additions

March 11th 2027 - The New League Year & The Day The Browns Cut Deshaun Watson
March 11th 2027 - The New League Year & The Day The Cleveland Browns Cut Deshaun Watson

Can The Browns Extend Deshaun Watson With His $200m Poison Pill Contract
Can The Cleveland Browns Extend Deshaun Watson With His $200m Poison Pill Contract

Click on the links to see the table illustrations.

First Article:
March 11th 2027 - The New League Year & The Day The Cleveland Browns Cut Deshaun Watson by Jack Duffin September 14

We know when Deshaun Watson will depart Cleveland. It is just a waiting game until the new league year in 2027.

It is a matter of weeks and months until Deshaun Watson departs the Cleveland Browns, March 11th, 2027, to be exact. Despite many people believing he is a free agent after the 2026 season, that is not the case. In March 2024, I hypothesized in an article that it would help the Cleveland Browns significantly if they managed to get Watson and his agent to agree to add a dummy year to his contract for 2027. Then in December 2024 they did exactly that. So what is a dummy year, why did they do it, and what does it mean?
Deshaun Watson's Contract

When looking at Watson's contract, we have five years of equal pay. The team and the agent agreed on this. The two most important numbers in a contract are cash and guarantees; the cap number is third and significantly less important, as it can be manipulated.

2022 - $46m (fully guaranteed)

2023 - $46m (fully guaranteed)

2024 - $46m (fully guaranteed)

2025 - $46m (fully guaranteed)

2026 - $46m (fully guaranteed)

Here is what happens if you look at it on the salary cap if you are just restructuring the deal to the max, I have color-coded each of the $46m payments so you can follow them through the contract.

A 'Dummy Year'

How a 'dummy year' works is that it is an entirely new contract year for 2027. It would have the minimum base salary, so $1,345,000 and then a $200m base salary in 2029 if he is on the team the third day of the 2027 league year. This allows the team to give him a post-June 1st cut once the new league year starts (11th March 2027) and spread this final dead cap over two years. In theory, it could be a $1bn roster bonus; they just want something large enough in there that the team will cut that player. The team just needs to get to the first day of the new league year to do a post-June 1st cut, making the move before the money is guaranteed.

Adding this dummy year (which they have used in the contracts of Clowney & Smith before and is common for salary cap manipulation) is especially useful with departing quarterbacks. This means in 2027 they are only dealing with the prorated money from this one season, and then in 2028 they have all the money from future years to deal with. The downside is you don't get a compensation pick, but I hardly doubt Watson is going to get the Cleveland Browns one.

What Does This Mean For Watson?

This change to the contract means nothing really for Watson; he was still due the $46m each of the five years and this has not changed. Even with normal restructures, it will rarely change the payment date when the player receives the money; this is a common myth about the salary cap that they get it all up front.

Without this change, the Cleveland Browns would have gotten no benefit from keeping him on the roster for the 2026 season. With this change, they can save significant salary cap space in exchange for a roster spot in 2026.
What Does This Mean For The Salary Cap?

Whatever way you structured the Watson contract, it was going to cost you $230m of cash and $230m of cap space; your choice is how it sits on the salary cap by pushing it into future years. Let us look at backloading versus cash equals cap. I have done an 8% increase of the cap for the future, which is what you would expect - if not more. By restructuring the deal each year, the same $230m costs you 12.71% less of salary cap by spreading out these cap hits. The key thing to remember with the restructure is that you don't have to spend that money now; everything created rolls into next year. That creates natural flexibility and is the key framework of their spending philosophy.

Conclusion

Once they get to the 2027 season and Watson is no longer being paid by the Cleveland Browns, the salary cap will be around $325m and with their sustainable model, they can be looking at a cash spend of around $390m with nothing going to Watson. These dead cap charges are no issue at all because these new contracts will be backloaded on the salary cap like the others, and they can be in Super Bowl contention as long as they can find an answer at quarterback.

No one is arguing they are better suited to not pay this money to Deshaun Watson. They need to find an answer at quarterback, and that comes through the draft in 2027. With the young core of players, a collection of draft assets remaining and money to spend on free agents, trades and extensions, they are in a good roster-building position.

The 2027 season should be about confirming the rookie quarterback is good and battling to make the playoffs. In 2028 ,they should continue their progression and be back to winning playoff games (unlike the Steelers). Anything less should result in a new General Manager.

Second Article:

Can The Cleveland Browns Extend Deshaun Watson With His $200m Poison Pill Contract by Jack Duffin September 30

Back in December 2024 the Cleveland Browns added a $200m poison pill into Deshaun Watson's contract. This created a dummy year, giving them the ability to cut him as a Post June 1st cut on the 11th of March 2027. But if they want to extend him down the line, how does that work?

This is a question I have regularly been getting since Watson's great performance in week two. I don't believe anyone is considering rushing into a Deshaun Watson extension, as that feels like a decision for after the 2026 season. But what people have been wanting to know is how it would look and how it would work. So let's dive into this.

I'm going to use the numbers with no suspension or insurance changes so that it makes it much easier to read and follow what is happening.
Deshaun Watson's Initial Contract

Here is the initial deal, $46m every year. Restructured to spread the salary cap hits out and give the team maximum flexibility.

Dummy Year/Poison Pill Changes

In December 2024, the Cleveland Browns asked Deshaun Watson's camp to amend his contract. This was to allow them to 'extend' his contract by a few days so that he could be a Post June 1st cut in March 2027 rather than becoming a free agent two days earlier. This means they can split the 2027 dead cap across the 2027 and 2028 season.

The mechanism to do this is either called adding a dummy year or adding a poison pill clause into the contract. It says if he is on the team on the 13th March 2027 they will guarantee him $200m in the 2029 season. He is never going to see this money but it just gives him certainty they will be cutting him.

Here are the changes/impact for all sides:

Watson - he is a free agent two/three days later

Browns - they can split his dead cap over two years but they lose the ability for Watson to qualify as part of the comp pick formula (they aren't likely to get any anyway as they will add more free agents than lose them, I will write more on comp picks later in the season)

What An Extension Would Look Like

If they want to extend Watson, they actually get longer than they initially would. Other players can negotiate with the rest of the league during the 'legal tampering period' on the 9th of March 2027. Watson can't do this until he is cut, so the Browns can hold exclusive negotiating rights up until the 12th of March, as they can cut him on the 11th or 12th.

Let's say they agree to extend him to a one year, $7m deal. The dummy year/poison pill is automatically removed because a new contract automatically supersedes any future spending agreement. Past money that was paid in base salary, restructures, options bonus etc doesn't change. The salary cap cost in 2027 and 2028 go up by $7m in total.

They would likely put a dummy year back into the contract for 2028 when doing the extension, giving them even more flexibility. The salary cap impact of adding a $7m extension to his current deal is laid out below.

2027: Up $2,476,000
2028: Down $25,698,000
2029: Up $30,222,000

You are taking the current 2028 number and spreading it over two years instead. Despite what people have tried to claim, you don't extend Watson to a $7m deal to help manage the salary cap. You only do it because you believe he is worth the $7m and better than the other options you can find as a bridge quarterback on the open market. Just because players are free agents, they might not want to come to Cleveland who will be drafting a quarterback, Daniel Jones chose the Colts over other teams because they promised him no quarterback would be drafted high.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? PitDAWG 10/03/26 05:15 PM
Ex-US congressman sentenced to 10 years in prison for $50m lobbying scheme

A former US congressman has been sentenced to 10 years in a federal prison for money laundering and working as an undeclared foreign agent.

David Rivera, 61, who was elected as a Florida Republican, was found guilty in May after a seven-week trial heard Venezuela's state-run oil company hired his consulting firm to lobby members of Congress to help improve US relations with Venezuela.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio, a former housemate of Rivera, and Texas congressman Pete Sessions both testified to the court that they had no idea about his activities.

Defence lawyers had said the lobbying was for a US subsidiary of the oil company, not the Venezuelan government.

Rivera's associate, political consultant Esther Nuhfer, who was tried alongside him, was also found guilty in the case.

As a part of his sentence, Rivera, who served in Congress from 2011-13, must also forfeit his Florida properties.

Federal prosecutors in Florida said Rivera and Nuhfer engaged in a "secret political influence campaign", receiving a $50m (£37m) contract for three months of work on behalf of a US-based subsidiary of Venezuelan state oil firm PDVSA, which is also known as Citgo.

Prosecutors alleged that, in 2017 and 2018, at the behest of former Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro's government, Rivera and Nuhfer attempted to lobby Rubio - then still a senator and former housemate of Rivera - as well as Kellyanne Conway, a former senior White House adviser.

The lobbying came during a moment of tense relations between the US and Venezuela, during President Donald Trump's first term in the White House when his administration imposed sanctions on the South American country.

Defence lawyers for Rivera and Nuhfer argued that the pair did not need to register as foreign agents because their contract was with a US-based subsidiary of a Venezuelan state company.

But Judge Melissa Damian said during Friday's sentencing: "There's no dispute this money came from the Maduro regime."

Rubio, who was not implicated in the wrongdoing, testified during the trial that he was close friends with Rivera but was unaware he was working as a lobbyist.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/ex-us-congressman-sentenced-10-210508771.html
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Re: The White House launches ‘Trump TV’ after media ban PitDAWG 10/03/26 05:02 PM
So trump's FCC goes after talk shows over equal time of political parties and then trump says this........

Trump says ‘MAGA and REAL Patriots’ will never like Fox News over hosting Democrats

President Trump on Wednesday went after Fox News over hosting Democrats on its network, with the president saying “MAGA, and REAL Patriots will never like Fox!”

“Why does FoxNews always put Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, Jessica Tarlov, and every Democrat on, saying bad things about the Republican Party and, of course, me?” the president said in a Wednesday afternoon Truth Social post.

“I actually think they get more airtime than Pro Republicans. This is why MAGA, and REAL Patriots, will never like Fox! They repeat a completely negative narrative, on and on it goes, and then we get a quick retort. It’s truly amazing that I won all three Elections,” he added, repeating his false claim that he won the 2020 presidential election.

Trump has a long history of attacking the media and press outlets, but Fox News has a history of being praised by the president, and he has also hired former Fox News personalities for his administration.

Last month, Trump went after “Fox News Sunday” anchor Shannon Bream because of on-air guests, charts and polls he claimed did not show off successful actions by his administration.

“In any event, Shannon’s ‘show’ is beyond redemption. Fortunately, MAGA, which is close to 100% of the Republican Party, understands that, and watch her ‘Ratings’ start to fall,” Trump said on Truth Social at the time.

“Chris Wallace was bad, but Shannon is even worse,” he added, referring to her predecessor.

Fox News is also one of the major TV networks that rotate covering the president for wider media distribution and recently said it would not do so after Trump barred three media outlets from the White House earlier this month.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...riFgIjtphGygU_aem_jEoi_Ck5tsGOMXqX8h7o9g

So Trump's own FCC launches punitive threats against what they claim to be the left wing news media for not giving equal time to Republicans on one hand. Then trump himself lambastes a conservative network tor giving Democrats equal time. Yet from people who support trump they act like this is no big deal and never mention it.
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Re: Browns new cont. 2 mgh888 10/03/26 04:53 PM
Hope this is accurate... bring him back slowly. Kid gloves.
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Re: Trump Administration's Continued Attack On the Justice System BADdog 10/03/26 12:22 PM
Apparently trump thinks the Constitution is a radical left rag.
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Re: Why the Dems? PitDAWG 10/02/26 07:00 PM
Do you even bother to read anything before you reply?

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We have laws to deport people who are here illegally. Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for traditional Medicaid, Medicare, or federal Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 MemphisBrownie 10/02/26 12:55 PM
Lou Pinella in the early 2000s. Ozzie Guillen in 2011. Maybe John Farrell the year after.

Managers need to ok it, unlike players unless the contract dictates otherwise (aka no trade clause).
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Re: Random NFL News jfanent 10/02/26 02:25 AM
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Originally Posted by 3rd_and_20
Odell Beckham Jr. cut by Giants in sad end to quiet second stint

https://nypost.com/2026/09/29/sport...giants-in-sad-end-to-quiet-second-stint/

What did his Dad say about that?

It's Baker's fault.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 10/01/26 08:02 PM
They're saying her marriage had gone to Schmitt after she went to the theater. Bryon Noem, her estranged husband said he is just thankful she didn't kill the family dog..... yet.
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Re: Health update Homewood Dog 10/01/26 04:35 PM
My prayers and support to you OCD. My poor wife went through this so I've unfortunately seen it firsthand. Stay positive and keep fighting!!
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Re: Supreme Court has given the Trump administration the green light to use a federal citizenship database to verify voters OCD 10/01/26 04:30 AM
Well, I see the hardcore trumpers are still self identifying on DT… didn’t anyone tell them MAGA is dead and their universe is disintegrating around them? Almost $7 a gallon for diesel, promises made promises kept? I thanked each and every traitor, er uh, Trump voter as I paid $6.27 a gallon for heating fuel oil. More than twice what I paid under biden.
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Re: Quarterbacks 10YrOvernightSuccess 09/30/26 06:02 PM
This goes here. A thumbnail of all the major qb’s thru 4 games. Chambliss is still studding out. Apart from one pretty golden moment I’m sure a few here will (always) remember, Manning looking like he may still need a year at this point. Moore hasn’t been great and now a concussion. Mensah wasn’t really on my radar, is now. Sellers looking very average.

It’s still early but interesting: Linkipoo
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Re: GOP Invesigation of the Investogators PitDAWG 09/30/26 03:21 PM


Somebody certainly Schmitt the bed on that one!
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Re: Aging bonefish 09/30/26 11:07 AM
Chappelle had a good one on aging.

"I know I am getting old. I can feel it for the first time. I was in my hotel room. This is embarrassing I'm not going to lie. I was jerking off.
I was really working at it. Sweating and everything. And I just gave up. I knew it wasn't happening.

I don't even like looking at my dick. Salt and pepper all down there.

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Re: GM has passed OCD 09/30/26 02:54 AM
RIP GM.
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Re: Dawgtalkers Pickum Pool 2026 FATE 09/29/26 08:19 PM
Bro, the first three weeks are always murder for me. My attention is 100% on the Browns in the preseason. I spend the first three weeks saying "oh yeah, I forgot he plays there now". My win was 100% luck lol.

Anyway, you had the balls to pick some tough underdogs, including our Browns. Kudos.
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Re: The Dems......again PitDAWG 09/29/26 03:34 PM
In September 2026, the Iowa Farmers Union (IFU) officially endorsed a full slate of Democratic candidates for both federal and state-level elections. Group leadership stated that the candidates were scored and selected based on their commitment to family farmers regarding critical issues like corporate consolidation, unfair trade policies, rural healthcare, and water quality.

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Re: OSU/ College Football Ballpeen 09/29/26 10:59 AM
The problem is too many idolize the thug mentality. Be it in sports or anywhere else. The actual hit can be shrugged off as an accident. The celebrations can't. We have become like the Romans, a blood thirsty society.

More on topic of college football, the Gators look like they finally found the right head coach.
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Re: Baseball vs Football George Carlin Style FORTBROWNFAN 09/28/26 10:51 PM
Classic.
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Re: Education oobernoober 09/28/26 05:15 PM
College, for many, has historically been something "you just go and do". You come out with a piece of paper and hopefully it works for you.


I think college, nowadays, should be viewed as an investment. There are good investments and bad investments, and bad investments will set you back. You really have to put some thought into your degree beyond how interesting it sounds. Will it help you land a higher-paying job and pay the bills? You have to think about that because you're going to have at least 1 big bill coming out of school. Obviously, scholarships can play a large role in college choices, but those can be tougher to come by and you're still likely to come out of it with loans to pay.
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The athletic BADdog 09/28/26 01:09 PM
Anyone else annoyed with "The Athletic" crap that keeps popping up on NFL.com? They are trying to get you to subscribe. It sucks I do my best to avoid the "A" prefixes now
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Re: Chubb to Retire as a Brown Dawgs4Life 09/27/26 04:04 PM
well done Nick
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Re: More Music bonefish 09/22/26 03:27 PM
If I could sing.

I would want to be able to sing like Nat King Cole or Joe Cocker.
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Re: Coulda, woulda, should oobernoober 09/21/26 12:59 AM
Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
Originally Posted by Bard Dawg
Browns coulda dropped DW and eaten the loss. Keeping him now for the money considerations, and I see no way forward that includes him. We shoulda kept Schwartz; last game was a larger step backward than I anticipated. We woulda been ahead with a few more veterans, because MG's loss has more impact than we have seen yet.
Cute mental exercise to show common ground in Browns fans. But we have managed two things: First, we failed to address QB even in our own room, and we wasted time and reps doing so. Second, our basic fundamentals, especially tackling, blocking, pass rushing, and play mix are not going resemble how we see winning teams demonstrate. Cringe-worthy it is.


There is no way the Browns could have dropped Watson this season. The cap hit would have just destroyed their ability to field a team. They had to play out this team, and then designate him as a post June release so they can split the total left at that point between 2027 and 2028. If we had just dumped him this year, the dead cap was something like $128 million.

Definitely couldn't have dropped him, but I'm curious how much of the restructures to drag out the cap hit were necessary or if we were still trying to save the plan vs blow everything up.
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Re: this got to me KNOXDAWG 09/20/26 09:40 PM
i guess you could re sign with the same losing team for more money and then bolt to another SB contender for even more money. that could ease a lot of pain
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