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Overall team loss, but our QB had plenty of opportunities to bring us back, and perhaps, sneak out with a victory.

I don't recall the Taylor miss in the endzone, may have not been watching at that point, but I definitely believe it. Four pretty much "guaranteed" six points, and our QB couldn't cash in on any.

I know I'm being a negative Nancy as of recent, but I don't think my grumbling statements are deviated from the truth.


No, I don't think your grumbling statements are deviated from the truth. I think some people might be putting too much blame on McCown, though. RBs couldn't run the ball, o-line couldn't run block, defense couldn't stop Amari Cooper, defense couldn't stop the run, Travis Benjamin fumbled the punt return which would have given the offense one more chance, and McCown didn't play well. The entire team stunk for the most part. Yes, McCown could have made a few more positive plays, but everyone really could have. I'm not sure it's fair to single him out above all others who played just as poorly or worse than he did.

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Last year the Browns went 7-9 after starting the season 7-4. We convinced ourselves that we could have won more with Mack on the field or even made the playoffs. And all of sudden everyone is saying McCown won't take us anywhere and no one ever thought he could. Then why is he even here? Why is he even starting? Why are we holding the franchise back? Why? Why? Why?


Why did the Colts play that horrid QB Stapley all year when Peyton was out?

They knew Andrew Luck was in the draft. They tanked the season.

Could the Browns be tanking the season in an effort to draft a QB next year? Inquiring minds want to know...

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I believe you'll find it was Curtis Painter that they started in order to land Luck.


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My cousin used to golf with Curtis.

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That's cool. Was he a better golfer than he was a QB? lol


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That's cool. Was he a better golfer than he was a QB? lol


Yeah. (hard to do, right?)

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Last year the Browns went 7-9 after starting the season 7-4. We convinced ourselves that we could have won more with Mack on the field or even made the playoffs. And all of sudden everyone is saying McCown won't take us anywhere and no one ever thought he could. Then why is he even here? Why is he even starting? Why are we holding the franchise back? Why? Why? Why?


Why did the Colts play that horrid QB Stapley all year when Peyton was out?

They knew Andrew Luck was in the draft. They tanked the season.

Could the Browns be tanking the season in an effort to draft a QB next year? Inquiring minds want to know...


If the Browns wanted to tank the season they would be playing someone much worse than Josh McCown at QB. Ryan Lindley comes to mind. Jimmy Clausen. Dan Orlovsky.

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Hey Vers, quit being a douchebag.


Gee, you have such thin skin. Stop acting like others are ignorant when in fact it is your point that lacks intelligence and then, I will quit being a douchebag. smirk

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Senior moment Peen. Or because. Aliens. wink


I guess, but since the topics are totally different forums I am just not sure how that happened. At any rate, I won't lose any sleep over the matter.


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Last year the Browns went 7-9 after starting the season 7-4. We convinced ourselves that we could have won more with Mack on the field or even made the playoffs. And all of sudden everyone is saying McCown won't take us anywhere and no one ever thought he could. Then why is he even here? Why is he even starting? Why are we holding the franchise back? Why? Why? Why?


Why did the Colts play that horrid QB Stapley all year when Peyton was out?

They knew Andrew Luck was in the draft. They tanked the season.

Could the Browns be tanking the season in an effort to draft a QB next year? Inquiring minds want to know...


If the Browns wanted to tank the season they would be playing someone much worse than Josh McCown at QB. Ryan Lindley comes to mind. Jimmy Clausen. Dan Orlovsky.


No, they have the right guy for tanking...he lead tampa to the first overall last year...why not us this year


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Last year the Browns went 7-9 after starting the season 7-4. We convinced ourselves that we could have won more with Mack on the field or even made the playoffs. And all of sudden everyone is saying McCown won't take us anywhere and no one ever thought he could. Then why is he even here? Why is he even starting? Why are we holding the franchise back? Why? Why? Why?


Why did the Colts play that horrid QB Stapley all year when Peyton was out?

They knew Andrew Luck was in the draft. They tanked the season.

Could the Browns be tanking the season in an effort to draft a QB next year? Inquiring minds want to know...


If the Browns wanted to tank the season they would be playing someone much worse than Josh McCown at QB. Ryan Lindley comes to mind. Jimmy Clausen. Dan Orlovsky.


No, they have the right guy for tanking...he lead tampa to the first overall last year...why not us this year


McCown is definitely terrible, but if we were tanking to the best our abilities there were better options.

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Another edition of As the Browns Quarterbacks Turn
Oct 01, 2015 -- 8:42am

The Morning Kickoff …

Payday: So, who had Austin Davis getting a contract extension before Johnny Manziel? Anybody?

For that matter, who had Manziel getting benched before Josh McCown? Think about it. Isn’t that what’s happened?

Can anyone figure out where the Browns are going with their quarterback position?

Nobody. And that includes them.

Which is to be expected from a franchise that summoned a $100,000 analytics study on the quarterback draft class of 2014, and then rejected the conclusive answer, Teddy Bridgewater, for Manziel based on text messages traded with then-quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains, and the whim of SEC-obsessed owner Jimmy Haslam.

Dowell Loggains.

They didn’t listen to Kyle Shanahan on quarterbacks but they did listen to Dowell Loggains? SMH.

But that was 2014.

What about 2016?

Here are some projected quarterback depth charts for the Browns in 2016:

A. 1. Josh McCown, 2. Cardale Jones (r), 3. Austin Davis.

B. 1. Johnny Manziel, 2. Austin Davis, 3. Connor Shaw.

C. 1. Cardale Jones (r), 2. Johnny Manziel, 3. Austin Davis.

D. 1. Austin Davis, 2. Connor Cook (r), 3. Tyler Thigpen.

(Ok, D. 3. was a joke.)

Did you notice the one name in each possibility? Austin Davis.

The Austin Davis.

Between the lines: According to ESPN, the Browns signed Davis to a two-year deal worth $4.127 million and $600,000 in guarantees. That’s third-string money.

But that’s a pretty good deal for a guy who has not thrown a pass for the Browns in a preseason or regular-season game.

Davis, 26, is in his third NFL year. In 2014, he began the St. Louis Rams training camp as their No. 3. By the second half of the first game, he was playing. He started in Game 2. By the end of the year, Davis had won three of eight starts,

Counting two other appearances, Davis finished with a completion percentage of 63.7, tossed 12 touchdowns v. nine interceptions, and had a passer rating of 85.1.

“We like his skill set, like his mentality, like his competitiveness and how he approaches football and felt like it would be a win for us to have him signed to a long term contract,” coach Mike Pettine said on Wednesday.

Davis said, “Obviously, I’m excited about the opportunity it could bring. But it’s not right now.

“A lot of times, with contracts come opportunity. That’s what I’d be looking for, an opportunity to compete and play. I do think it shows they do trust me on some level, so with that comes responsibility to prepare and do your best whenever that opportunity comes.”

The strangest thing about the Davis contract extension is that the Browns conceived it and executed it – supposedly -- without the input or approval of GM Ray Farmer, whose league suspension for improper texting during games in 2014 ends on Monday. Under terms of the suspension set forth by the NFL, Farmer can’t communicate with, or conduct business on behalf of, the Browns until the suspension is lifted.

“We don’t just lock the office door of the GM and don’t do anything GM-related,” Pettine said.

Right now, Davis is merely the No. 3 quarterback. If nothing else, that makes him the odds-on favorite to become the 24th quarterback to start a game for the Browns since 1999.

“You never know what’s going to happen,” Davis said. “Hopefully, everybody stays healthy. But that doesn’t always happen, so … “

Oh, don’t worry. Davis will start a game this year. It comes with the uniform.

There has been rampant speculation on Twitter that the Davis contract extension may be a precursor to a trade. That maybe the Browns would catch Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones going to the men’s room out of the sight of son Stephen Jones and might be able to entice Jerry to give up a draft pick for Manziel, a Texas native and renowned pre-2014 draft favorite of Jones.

I don’t see that happening, especially after the Cowboys traded for Matt Cassel to eventually replace Brandon Weeden during starter Tony Romo’s eight-week rehab from a broken left clavicle.

The other guys: Meanwhile, back at the ranch …

McCown spent a large portion of his weekly appearance in front of his locker throwing water on the TMZ.com report citing three unidentified Browns offensive starters bitching to have Manziel play quarterback instead of McCown.

“I am not worried,” McCown said. “I don’t think it was anything that I need to waste my time on. That stuff is outside of here. The guys in here, we know what we have going and the direction we are headed. We are all on the same page with that. I don’t really worry about stuff like that.”

Technically, McCown was the starter in both games the Browns lost and Manziel was the starter in the game they won. But Manziel took over for McCown in the season opener with the score tied 0-0 and held a 10-0 lead before losing, 31-10.

Yet the Manzealots – and the three unidentified starters in the TMZ report – will tell you that the team plays demonstrably better for Manziel.

“I told you guys this the other day: I have been on both sides of this thing,” McCown said. “This is a diverse group of guys in here. There are definitely people that will follow any issue that you talk about and there will be people who have different opinions on anything. Position things and stuff like that are probably no different. There are people that have different opinions on that. That is OK. That is fine.

“At the end of the day, do I question whether or not we are going to be on the same page when we step out there Sunday? Absolutely not.

“Whether you are for one guy or the other, you think one guy gives you a better chance to win or not, it doesn’t matter because when we get out there on Sunday, everyone is giving their best. That was evident this Sunday, and I expect that moving forward. Whether it was three guys or 10 guys or whether we knew or not, it doesn’t matter. It is just about us being on the same page when we get out there Sunday.”

The only quarterback not heard from on Wednesday was Manziel.

Stay tuned.

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It sounds like the writer reads this message board!

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Think about it. Isn’t that what’s happened?


No, that is not what happened.

What happened is the starter was injured and the backup filled in for him. The starter then got healthy and the backup went back to being the backup.


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This author is also kinda terrible at facts.

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Davis, 26, is in his third NFL year.




but... http://www.nfl.com/player/austindavis/2533349/profile
Experience: 4th season


Wait... no surprise. It's a Tony Grossi article; I could just about tell for certain without having to click the link to verify.

Facts are his bane, vehemence and vitriol are his game.


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Its Toni Grossi...I'm like wait a minute there was no proof of all this conjecture. That the email from Loggins is why we disregarded SHANAHAN???

We benched Manziel before McCown?

We extended Davise before Manziel?

I'm thinking what an idiot...betcha its Grossi then I saw the Link Espn and I'm like oh huh who wrote this...clicked onto the link...sure enough it was Grossi.

just a coincidence...problem is the entire nation reads this crap and thinks its the truth...after all its ESPN... smh


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I don't totally dismiss every writer. Every dog finds a bone sometimes. lol

But overall I agree with you about Grossi. This article is filled with conjecture and nothing to do with facts. It sounds a lot like someone doing a rant in the game day forum when we're losing.


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It sounds a lot like someone doing a rant in the game day forum when we're losing.


Indeed it does. Grossi has an agenda...


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It sounds a lot like someone doing a rant in the game day forum when we're losing.


Indeed it does. Grossi has an agenda...


When hasn't Grossi written with an agenda??


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