DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Johnny Manziel pulled over during domestic argument, admits to drinking

People don't go to inpatient rehab for that amount of time for "control issues". Substance abuse was obviously a major component. No rehab program I know of teaches "social use" of alcohol. Permanent abstention is the only effective method for treating substance abuse issues (one could argue that methadone or suboxone aren't true abstention). It would also be foolish to assume this incident was the first drink he's taken since leaving rehab.

I'm done with him. Play McCown. Draft someone. Try again.

But the story was not about him being drunk. He wasn't even reported to be drunk. It was more about a domestic arguement, and evidently the police didn't think it warranted any further investigation.

The writer got what he wanted. He got people bashing the kid again, and jumping to conclusions. It's what the media does, and idiots who fall for bait.

It is funny that a couple weeks ago people were praising his commitment and noticeable improvement. Now, because his wacky girlfriend throws his wallet out of the window, and he is seen keeping her from jumping out of a moving vehicle, he is trash.

Again, he was not drunk, and he wasn't cited for anything.

But the story was not about him being drunk. He wasn't even reported to be drunk. It was more about a domestic arguement, and evidently the police didn't think it warranted any further investigation.

The writer got what he wanted. He got people bashing the kid again, and jumping to conclusions. It's what the media does, and idiots who fall for bait.

It is funny that a couple weeks ago people were praising his commitment and noticeable improvement. Now, because his wacky girlfriend throws his wallet out of the window, and he is seen keeping her from jumping out of a moving vehicle, he is trash.

Again, he was not drunk, and he wasn't cited for anything.

poor johnny. {{{SIGH}}} so misunderstood........

This has nothing to do with it being Johnny, so you can keep your half assed comments to your self. It is about people judging and reading more into a story than is present. You hat him fine. But this is not about him, it is about a media that will try anything to stir up attention.

Guess she ran out of mud. Not sure this invites or requires her analysis if she is qualified. Tired of it being the media monopoly.

I don't think he pushed her head against a car window. That car would have to be incredibly narrow as how can you reach from a drivers seat all the way across to the passenger window? It's not physically possible.

A Nissan gtr is 6.2 feet wide. His arms aren't that long.

I'm not really convinced. I've always had compact cars and I can't remotely reach the passenger side window.

She must have a gianormous head lol.

If your team's future qb just spent a couple months in rehab and is drinking on a Monday morning, it's definitely newsworthy.

Looks more like he had a couple beers with lunch on his day off.... alert the media.

It's time for Johnny Manziel to go back into rehab: Mary Kay Cabot analysis

CLEVELAND, Ohio --- It's time for Johnny Manziel to go back into rehab.

His domestic incident Monday involving girlfriend Colleen Crowley is a red flag that Manziel is off track in his aftercare program and needs to call another timeout in his life.

Manziel and Crowley weren't charged with anything, but the Browns and the rest of Manziel's support network should insist that he checks himself back into the Caron addiction treatment center or somewhere else where he can get the help he needs.

According to the police report, Manziel admitted to having two drinks on Monday afternoon. If he admitted to two drinks, perhaps he had more. Crowley, on the other hand, was so drunk that she couldn't focus, her eyes were bloodshot, and she was slurring her words, according to the report. She could barely cooperate with police at times and was almost arrested for disorderly conduct.

By 6 p.m., Manziel and Crowley were arguing in a car on a crowded highway, with Manziel driving erratically, flying down the left-hand berm at 90 mph and crossing several lanes of traffic to exit at Nagel Road, according to an eyewitness account in the police report.

Truthfully, Manziel and Crowley are lucky to be alive, because in addition to speeding down the highway with alcohol in his system, according to the report, Manziel then had to divide his attention between trying not to crash the car and keeping Crowley from exiting the moving vehicle.

He did this, according to an eyewitness, by putting his arm and elbow around Crowley's neck and then grabbing her wrist.

Crowley, meanwhile, told anyone who would listen -- the police, the witness who stopped to help her -- that Manziel hit her a couple of times in the car and pushed her head against the glass, according to the report. The witness told police Crowley told her that Manziel "was beating her.''

Again, she was highly intoxicated, crying and upset, and when asked if he hurt her, later said, "No he's fine.''

Ultimately, Avon police did not charge Manziel because of the inconsistencies in Crowley's story, the lack of physical evidence except for an abrasion on her wrist from keeping her from leaving the car, and the fact that she didn't want to press charges.

A police spokesman told Northeast Ohio Media Group that the case will not be turned over to the prosecutor for further review.

On Friday, Manziel and Crowley took to social media to tell the world "we are good'' and that the incident was blown out of proportion.

But the Browns and the NFL should take the allegations in the report seriously and investigate them further. After all, this is a team that recently parted ways with its offensive line coach, Andy Moeller, after a woman who said she was his fiancee accused him on a 911 call of domestic violence. Moeller, who has a history of alcohol-related issues, was never charged, but the Browns let him go nevertheless.

It would send the wrong message if they don't look as deeply into Manziel's case as they did Moeller's. Also, Browns owner Dee Haslam serves on the NFL's Conduct Committee and must set the tone for how teams handle these types of situations.

The Browns and the NFL cannot pass this off as a drunken girlfriend getting out of control. Manziel was reportedly out of control, too -- at least with his driving -- and there have been signs along the way that he was slipping off track. On Thursday, Manziel was seen driving erratically and at a high speed as he left the Browns facility.

Shortly after he left Caron, rumors circulated that Manziel was drinking again and hanging out at establishments downtown and on West 25th Street, a popular hotspot.

No one knows for sure if Manziel must abstain from alcohol as part of his treatment program. In fact, it's never even been made public if Manziel is in the NFL's substance-abuse program. That might not come to light unless Manziel is suspended.

The NFL on Friday told NEOMG that "we are aware (but) we do not have further comment.''

The Browns issued the following statement from general manager Ray Farmer: "We were aware of the situation. It is a matter that we take seriously and have expressed our concerns to Johnny directly. Those conversations will remain private and we will refrain from further comment at this time.''

But Manziel's day-drinking on a Monday off and arguing on the highway with his drunken girlfriend are undoubtedly nowhere in the treatment plan.

Even if Manziel believes he has no problem with alcohol, the incident is a sign that he's reverting to the off-the-field issues that derailed his rookie season.

Caron has an excellent aftercare program and Manziel has a solid support network. He also has the money to return to rehab. If he's going to stay straight, he needs to surround himself with people who are also doing the right things.

The Browns don't need Manziel right now. Josh McCown is playing well and Austin Davis is a capable backup.

Manziel should not only be suspended for Sunday's game against the Broncos, he also should return to an inpatient facility to get himself back on the right track.

And while he's there, the Browns and the NFL should look deeply into the disturbing statements in the police report and make sure there's not a larger issue there.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/10/johnny_manziel_should_go_back.html

More trolling

She must have a gianormous head lol.

-with next to nothing inside, it would seem....


By now, Manziel should have figured out that this partying, out-of-control bimbo is toxic for his career and mental health.

Here's how he messed up, imo: when she wanted to exit the car, he should have stopped the car and allowed her to do so. As soon as she was a safe distance from the car, he should have re-entered traffic, and left her where she belongs- both literally and figuratively:

ON THE CURB.


(...and this is from someone who doesn't really care about JM one way or another. Not a fanboy OR 'hater.')

well really he should have just gave her phone to her so she could call her dad. thats how it all started.

i almost always give people the benefit of doubt but i just dont know where that came from.

well really he should have just gave her phone to her so she could call her dad. thats how it all started.

Or did it start when they had a couple DRINKS?

Hard to say what was going on before that.

It's just a stupid lover's quarrel. Not worth all the hoopla.