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My dog was a conservative. We adopted him from a rescue farm, and he earned his keep by patrolling around my house. I'm probably the only person you know that had a Pomeranian for a guard dog.

how dare capitalists see a need and provide a service in response! Death to the pigs.

:-) Erik

The student loan debt I stated are the Federal loans IINM. Nothing capitalist about that. The government guarantees the loans, and gives them to everyone, credit worthy or not.

I know that last statement was rhetorical, but man, look at how much more it costs today, now that everyone can receive loans. College costs exploded with the advent of guaranteed student loans.

Difference between Repubs and Dems:

Repubs: We will cut taxes and put more money in your pocket so you can best decide how to spend your own money.

There you go. College loans and college costs exploded after the federal government stepped in and guaranteed the loans. Now the colleges can charge what ever they want without competition, and the government will pay them. If you recall, housing prices exploded after the government got involved and made sure anyone could get a home loan, no matter their ability to pay it back. This government creates more bubbles that a school field trip to a soap factory.

so depending on what polls you choose to look at, Carson is on top of Trump.

Had an old friend from HS unfriend me on FB today. He posted last night, "Since Trump is no longer in the lead and his support is waning, I think he will drop out. He will take his toys and go home."

to which I responded, "If Bernie Sanders support starts to drop, does that mean he will take somebody else's toys and go home?"

He no longer shows up on my friends list.

Yup by the very same congress that's been in control for years now. The very same congress that is against helping it's own people but willing to spend billions on waging wars in oil rich countries.

No thanks been there done that. Time for a flat tax on all personal and corp income. Everyone pays the same % on income. Until then nothing will be fair when it comes to taxes.

You get that passed - where EVERY single person pays the same percentage, I'll vote for you. The caveat though, would be that EVERY person that makes money, pays the same percentage.

Hows bout a National Sales Tax where you pay tax on everything you buy?
Rich guy is buying alot more than a poor guy.

Flat tax sounds great but it just adds up to further tax cuts for the top and a big hit to the deficit.

Flat tax sounds great but it just adds up to further tax cuts for the top and a big hit to the deficit.

Hows bout a National Sales Tax where you pay tax on everything you buy?
Rich guy is buying alot more than a poor guy.

Flat tax sounds great but it just adds up to further tax cuts for the top and a big hit to the deficit.

For instance, maybe 20k or less, no fed tax. 20k to 60k maybe 10%. 60,000.01 to 120k might be 15% and so on.

Just an example. But I think if you get the numbers/percentages mixed right, it's a tax savings for everyone and way simpler and may not reduce income for country. The mix has to be right and frankly, I'm not sure how to arrive at that.

I'm all for overhauling the tax system but this method is not equitable.

Poor guy makes $30K a year, spends $30K a year. Pays taxes on $30K a year.

Rich guy makes $2 million a year, spends $300K a year. Pays taxes on $300K a year.

So the government is bringing in more off the rich guy but by percentage, rich guy is paying significantly less in taxes than poor guy... because the richer you are, the less of your income you spend.

However ..... person here illegally, or working under the table pays no taxes now. If they spend money they would be paying taxes.

I don't think anybody should be 0. I don't care if you are a kid that makes $5000 a year at a part time job, you should still pay something. Make it 1-2%, but something.

1% on $5000 is $50.
The government would spend more than $50 in collecting and processing and actually end up losing money.

Explain to me how a person lacking documentation is on payroll anywhere. If they don't have the multiple forms of ID, then they cannot work legally.

Also .... if illegals are already paying taxes, and getting no refunds ... then how would they suddenly pay more in taxes?

I know I am biased because I think all Republicans are idiots these days, but I struggle to understand how their message is SO appealing to so many that work for a living. They in no way represent the working class and have not for years.

I understand the arguments of smaller government, free markets, and deregulation; but would counter that government has not shrunk but grown regardless of who is in office, free markets are fine until the medicine (or anything else) you depend on gets jacked up 5000% overnight, and deregulation is good but you have to enforce COMMON SENSE AND DECENCY somehow!

Kicking out the Mexicans is going to hurt much more than help, IMHO. And I would rather have a Mexican neighbor / co-worker than some dimwit that thinks he's tough because he walks around with his pants down all day. I also openly have little regard for Muslims and their religion BECAUSE I do not agree with their culture and religion, not because I don't see them as human; but I do not like to see them victimized in the US because of the hatred for the idiots overseas.

There was also a point in my life that I was openly racist. I said and did many things that were not cool at all; but I have grown and matured as a person and see that the hate (root) of racism only breeds more hate and pain. I think the GOP base is predominantly racist; breeding divides, hate and pain seems to be a GOP party goal. I can not understand how any minority, free thinker, and or non-racist person could vote for a candidate from this party.

I think each and every GOP candidate serves the elite (super rich) and ONLY the elite. Everything else is lip service because their records and actions tell me much more than what comes from there mouths. Trump is obviously self serving and the others are elite boot-lickers; Carson is probably the only wild card here because he serves his faith more than anything else; I think he is a certifiable nut job! Not sure how anyone can't see this guy is not tightly wrapped, unless you are just blind with hate.

I don't care for any religion, especially religion in politics, and Carson is the poster boy for that line of thought! He doesn't think a Muslim should be President and although I agree with that statement on the merits of "religious fanatics should not run countries", I can't see him as anything but a religious fanatic either, so pot meet kettle IMHO. He is also the dumbest smart guy I've ever listened to!

I honestly think Marco Rubio, with his flaws is by far the best candidate the Republicans have based on the statements made and actions taken. I think he is the least likely to do harm, but then again he is a Republican.

Just my two cents.