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There was no choice for medical only was there. Anybody would have been able to grow four plants on there own they just would not have been allowed to sell it.
Let me ask you this does just anybody have the right to make and sell morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset? Did you knowthat pharmaceutical companies own the right to their drugs when they first come to market? Yep there is only ONE company that can make and sell that drug for a set period of time. December 12th 1995 the FDA OxyContin. In 1996 it hit the market and accounted for $45 million in sales for its manufacturer, Stamford, Connecticut-based pharmaceutical company Purdue Pharma. By 2010 their profits grew to 3.1 billion dollars per year, and they were still the only company who could make and sell Oxy until 2013. This meant that a single private, family-owned pharmaceutical company with non-descript headquarters in the Northeast controlled nearly a third of the entire United States market for pain pills.
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Gov. John Kasich, a Republican presidential candidate, praised the state's decision.
"At a time when too many families are being torn apart by drug abuse, Ohioans said no to easy access to drugs and instead chose a path that helps strengthen our families and communities," he said in a statement. Mr. Clueless Kasich thinks this was defeated because Ohio does not want marijuana legalized. We didn't want the monopoly you dolt.
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There was no choice for medical only was there. Anybody would have been able to grow four plants on there own they just would not have been allowed to sell it.
Let me ask you this does just anybody have the right to make and sell morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset? Did you knowthat pharmaceutical companies own the right to their drugs when they first come to market? Yep there is only ONE company that can make and sell that drug for a set period of time. December 12th 1995 the FDA OxyContin. In 1996 it hit the market and accounted for $45 million in sales for its manufacturer, Stamford, Connecticut-based pharmaceutical company Purdue Pharma. By 2010 their profits grew to 3.1 billion dollars per year, and they were still the only company who could make and sell Oxy until 2013. This meant that a single private, family-owned pharmaceutical company with non-descript headquarters in the Northeast controlled nearly a third of the entire United States market for pain pills. Difference there is that the Purdue Pharma probably spent hundreds of millions of dollars (if not more) to develop the drug - they should get exclusive rights. Pot on the other hand is a plant that anyone can grow. The dolts that wrote the bill just needed leave out the "only 10 farms" piece and it may have had a chance to pass. The bill was poorly written, which was part of it's demise. That said, I'm not sure it would have passed even without that language as it was very soundly defeated. Without the "only 10 farms" piece, I would have voted for it. I voted 1-yes, 2-no, 3-no.
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There was no choice for medical only was there. Anybody would have been able to grow four plants on there own they just would not have been allowed to sell it.
Let me ask you this does just anybody have the right to make and sell morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset? Did you knowthat pharmaceutical companies own the right to their drugs when they first come to market? Yep there is only ONE company that can make and sell that drug for a set period of time. December 12th 1995 the FDA OxyContin. In 1996 it hit the market and accounted for $45 million in sales for its manufacturer, Stamford, Connecticut-based pharmaceutical company Purdue Pharma. By 2010 their profits grew to 3.1 billion dollars per year, and they were still the only company who could make and sell Oxy until 2013. This meant that a single private, family-owned pharmaceutical company with non-descript headquarters in the Northeast controlled nearly a third of the entire United States market for pain pills. Let me ask you. Are you actually comparing pot to morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset? Seriously?
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There was no choice for medical only was there. Anybody would have been able to grow four plants on there own they just would not have been allowed to sell it.
Let me ask you this does just anybody have the right to make and sell morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset? Did you knowthat pharmaceutical companies own the right to their drugs when they first come to market? Yep there is only ONE company that can make and sell that drug for a set period of time. December 12th 1995 the FDA OxyContin. In 1996 it hit the market and accounted for $45 million in sales for its manufacturer, Stamford, Connecticut-based pharmaceutical company Purdue Pharma. By 2010 their profits grew to 3.1 billion dollars per year, and they were still the only company who could make and sell Oxy until 2013. This meant that a single private, family-owned pharmaceutical company with non-descript headquarters in the Northeast controlled nearly a third of the entire United States market for pain pills. Difference there is that the Purdue Pharma probably spent hundreds of millions of dollars (if not more) to develop the drug - they should get exclusive rights. Pot on the other hand is a plant that anyone can grow. The dolts that wrote the bill just needed leave out the "only 10 farms" piece and it may have had a chance to pass. The bill was poorly written, which was part of it's demise. That said, I'm not sure it would have passed even without that language as it was very soundly defeated. Without the "only 10 farms" piece, I would have voted for it. I voted 1-yes, 2-no, 3-no. Yes you only have to grow it. However who is going to regulate it if 2,000 different people are growing it and selling it? Who is to say there is nothing added to it. Ten growers would be much easier to regulate, and cheaper to inspect as well. Anyway I am not claiming that this was a good bill. I really think it sucked. However now those who the drug could have helped are now going to suffer for another year  That is what ticks me off.
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Let me ask you.
Are you actually comparing pot to morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset?
Seriously? There is no comparison. Those drugs are all man made highly addictive, legal, have numerous side effects, can kill you, and can be popped like candy if you can find a DR to write you a few scripts. Pot is non addictive, it grows and does not need manufactured, as far as I know you can't overdose on it, and it has very few side effects.
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64% against pot. To be blunt, that's a thumping. I seed what your doing.
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Let me ask you.
Are you actually comparing pot to morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset?
Seriously? There is no comparison. Those drugs are all man made highly addictive, legal, have numerous side effects, can kill you, and can be popped like candy if you can find a DR to write you a few scripts. Pot is non addictive, it grows and does not need manufactured, as far as I know you can't overdose on it, and it has very few side effects. Pot is non-addictive?  Please. I smoked it for many, many, many years. It's a drug and can be addicting, just like any other drug.
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Pot is non addictive, it grows and does not need manufactured, as far as I know you can't overdose on it, and it has very few side effects. So why does it have to be controlled by 10? Capitalism dictates that if someone can provide a better product or a competitive price then they should be legally allowed to do so. In other words why should Great Lakes Brewery not be allowed to produce a product if it's legal and their product is safe? Why should 10 be given the legal right/advantage to non-competition? The FDA has some pretty tough regulations on the drugs you've listed and I believe those regulations cover the manufacturing and sale of those drugs because they're not safe if not regulated.
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Let me ask you.
Are you actually comparing pot to morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset?
Seriously? There is no comparison. Those drugs are all man made highly addictive, legal, have numerous side effects, can kill you, and can be popped like candy if you can find a DR to write you a few scripts. Pot is non addictive, it grows and does not need manufactured, as far as I know you can't overdose on it, and it has very few side effects. Pot is non-addictive?  Please. I smoked it for many, many, many years. It's a drug and can be addicting, just like any other drug. It's not a physically addictive drug. It's all a mental addiction.
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Let me ask you.
Are you actually comparing pot to morphine, Oxy, vicodin, percoset?
Seriously? There is no comparison. Those drugs are all man made highly addictive, legal, have numerous side effects, can kill you, and can be popped like candy if you can find a DR to write you a few scripts. Pot is non addictive, it grows and does not need manufactured, as far as I know you can't overdose on it, and it has very few side effects. Pot is non-addictive?  Please. I smoked it for many, many, many years. It's a drug and can be addicting, just like any other drug. It's not a physically addictive drug. It's all a mental addiction. I would agree with it not being physically addictive, but it can be addictive both mentally and sometimes psychologically too.
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The fact that you can stop it without physically craving it is a miracle. Even when you quit coffee you'll get a headache, most likely. It really speaks to the safety of pot tbqh.
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Yes you only have to grow it. However who is going to regulate it if 2,000 different people are growing it and selling it? Who is to say there is nothing added to it. Ten growers would be much easier to regulate, and cheaper to inspect as well. Anyway I am not claiming that this was a good bill. I really think it sucked. However now those who the drug could have helped are now going to suffer for another year frown That is what ticks me off. I hope you are mad at the people that wrote the bill and not the people that voted against it. Though, with a 64% rejection I would say that even with a better crafted bill it likely would have still failed - it was a much larger margin of defeat than I expected.
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There is something that bugs me about all of this. Many of the people who voted NO on this did so because they don't want to see ten investers get rich. Well those ten are already Rich. So what voting NO did was deny those who could get medical help that they need and deserve are being told to suffer just because some folks don't want 10 rich people to get Richer.  Because 10 Rich people getting richer was so disgusting to you that you are willing to tell innocent people to suck it up and suffer. Among those who now have to suffer longer are Children, brothers, sisters, parents, men and woman who served there country to protect us. How would you feel if you had to go look your loved one in the eyes and tell them you voted for them to suffer because you didn't want 10 rich people to get richer  This is a sad day in Ohio Come on now - they aren't going to have to suffer. It's not like it's hard to find someone who sells it. It can be got, without much to-do.
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I would agree with it not being physically addictive, but it can be addictive both mentally and sometimes psychologically too. So can donuts. I fail to see your point. j/c So I lived in Ohio until a couple of years ago. I smoked weed for decades. I no longer live in Ohio or smoke weed. But this was certainly a terrible bill. Even when I lived in Ohio and smoked weed, I doubt I would have voted for it. Cronyism is something I simply can't abide by. weed is easy to get almost anywhere. If the state wishes to keep those tax dollars out of the system by setting up a bill filled with Cronyism for only a few, then they lost millions upon millions in tax dollars. Soon common sense will prevail. Then we'll see what the people really think about the issue. If not, they will continue to feed the black market with money that would better be used elsewhere.
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Seems to me that common sense has prevailed with a thumping as the people of Ohio have proven to be much more Conservative than the people of "Everything Else" in Dawgtalkers.
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Sorry to spoil your day, but MOST of the people who I knew that smoked weed were hard core conservatives.
Sometimes conservatives stand for people taking personal responsibility rather than having government overreach to take choices away from the people. At least real conservatives.
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Says you. Most of the Conservatives I know voted "NO" on your legalized Weed law.
With a Thump I might add.
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Says you. Most of the Conservatives I know voted "NO" on your legalized Weed law.
With a Thump I might add. It looks like people of all kinds voted no. I can't see it as a conservative or non-conservative vote. Are conservatives really believing there's a political moral ground demonstrated? It was a "this is a stupid idea" - no - vote.
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well looks like people voted their kids a little bit longer. Good Job Ohio. Now if you could also outlaw cigarettes and bars too then you would really be saving the people.
Do whatever you want at home if you don't have kids but I don't think drugs of any kind should be for sale publically. To me a drunk driver in a truck is just as dangerous as someone who is high driving a truck.
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Oh yea? Is that how it looks to you? Pit thinks the Conservatives were stoned when they voted "NO".
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I would agree with it not being physically addictive, but it can be addictive both mentally and sometimes psychologically too. So can donuts. I fail to see your point. Poster said marijuana is nonaddictive. I disagreed. Capish?
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Tell me which part of this conservatives disagree with......
1. Personal responsibility.
2. Less government.
3. A citizens rights to their own personal freedoms.
I don't believe conservative means what you think it means.
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Oh I understand. I just don't believe that when your brain tells you that you want something, you just do it, is an addiction. I think that's being weak mined and making poor personal decisions.
Society doesn't like hearing that so they decided to call it an addiction.
I mean seriously, is that really obese guy at McDonalds actually addicted to Big Macs? Come on now.....
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A personal freedom is a choice you make that does not impact anyone outside your home. Laws are made to protect victims. Where no victims exist, there is no crime.
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A personal freedom is a choice you make that does not impact anyone outside your home. Laws are made to protect victims. Where no victims exist, there is no crime. No, according to American Law your personal freedom ends at the tip of my nose. If you cross that point you risk losing your personal freedoms entirely.
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American law is the constitution.
The rest? Agenda driven BS that people choose to accept.
Your choice.
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American law is the constitution.
The rest? Agenda driven BS that people choose to accept.
Your choice. Spoken like a guy who never got close to knowing any Conservatives. I do however feel sorry for guys like Mr.Ted and his situation. Next time try for Medical MJ and even I will vote yes.
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I grew up in a rural, redneck farming community. I know conservatives. Not people who try to get their agenda voted into law. They want less laws intruding into their life.
They want the government off their backs in every way, not just in ways that suit their views.
I grew up with the working class that built this country. Rural folks.
I know what conservatives are. They are the ones who respect their forefathers and what they stood for. And they don't sound a lot like you.
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yall two need to burn one and chill out.
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Maybe it's the difference between a republican conservative and a libertarian conservative.
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yall two need to burn one and chill out. That would be illegal...
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yall two need to burn one and chill out. That would be illegal... so is your gardner, but you haven't called immigration yet.
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That is a good one! 
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yall two need to burn one and chill out. That would be illegal... so is your gardner, but you haven't called immigration yet. 
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