DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns willing to deal Barkevious Mingo, source says; Reports also say Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, Paul Kruger on block

I agree, Mac. Is Haslam really that stupid? I know football is a business, but if it's run strictly like a business then all the Browns will be doing is drafting players and selling/trading them off every few years. There has to be a solid product on the field or the business will suffer at some point.

I know it didn't work with Holmgren, but we definitely need someone with a football background to oversee the football side of the operation: a Parcells type, a Cowher type. The type of guy who has the credibility, the work ethic, and the no b.s. attitude to structure the football side of things in the right way.

This is so beyond absurd that I can't even believe it's happening. Haslam is on the verge of making Art Modell look like a good owner.

Nick Saban.

You know, Verse, Saban is just the type of personality I was describing. He seems to be the type that would rather build than sustain for a long period (relatively speaking based on his moves from place to place), so it might just fit. The question would be whether or not he would also want to coach.

If Nick Saban wants to leave for the NFL, he will have his pick of all the jobs. We are probably last on the list of teams that would have an opening.

With Ken Whisenhunt fired, I bet quite a few coaches will be looking at Tennessee given the fact they have Mariota

Trading players like Mack, Kruger, and Mingo makes sense. As the article says, "A league source confirmed the team has actively engaged in discussions to acquire 'assets”'– draft picks -- by trading players no longer in the team’s future plans."

Mack will likely opt out. We drafted his replacement. He won't waive his no trade clause though.

Kruger's production has dropped precipitously (because of his role and/or other reasons that we don't know about). His cap number goes down quite a bit next season, I would expect him to be cut.

Mingo has been a bust and plays something like 20% of the snaps. If we can get any value out of him, we should.

I don't see the harm in trading these guys. In fact, I would encourage it. Especially if I was a guy who had long term job security (Scheiner).

The one who does not line up with this strategy is Joe Thomas. Something tells me his name was floated by a team other than the Browns.

And they call us knee jerk...

Whisenhunt was 3-20 as the Titans head coach.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/661556954431664128

In other words, he isn't getting traded.

j/c:



https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors

And he is still on the team. We are likely for the moon and the stars.

If i were in the playoff hunt, and the LT spot was a position that could be upgraded by a future HOF tackle, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

The problem is that Denver's first round pick will be late 20's or even 30.

exactly, we'd be trading Thomas for pick #28 or whatever

j/c:



https://twitter.com/RapSheet

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/661558259472588800

So we were never trading any of these guys.

I think you missed the part where we didn't trade him.

a 3rd for Mingo? HAHAHAHA

Trade Thomas than sign Ryan Clady in the off season.

I'd trade anyone on this team EXCEPT Joe Thomas.

Apparently Alec Scheiner wasn't watching the Browns when guys like Kevin Shaffer and Kirk Chambers were getting killed by edge rushers. I bet all of our QBs remember....if they haven't been brain-damaged from the concussions.

I wouldn't trade Mingo... I still think he has potential do wreck havoc.

You're the only one.

I get your point, but Chambers started zero games for us.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ChamKi20.htm

No. In the article you posted it says the Browns wouldn't deal Thomas for just a first round pick.

Where there's smoke there's fire. Apparently JT said he wouldn't stop a trade and would wave his no trade clause if dealt. If this is true the locker room is a mess and needs a cleanup anyways.

You know how I know you're making things up?

Joe Thomas doesn't have a no trade clause.

Just heard on NFLNetwork that Haden and Gipson have joined the other Browns who are "on the block"

At this point people are just throwing names out there. Fun times.

Gipson and Joe would be off limits for me. I think Gipson is our best player on defense and Joe is a Browns legend and u just dont trade those types of players although Beli would lol.

I did a search on Craigslist in the Cleveland area for these guys and wouldn't you know it? The Browns had an ad for Haden, Gibson, Mack, Thomas and Mingo under the Personals section of Men Seeking Draft Picks.

Except for the fact that Farmer, if he is still the GM, will likely let Gipson leave, because, you know, compensatory picks.

That's what I was trying to figure out.

"We'll give you our 2016 first for Joe Thomas."
"Not enough. We want more."
"Forget it."

And we are trying to trade him?

If the Browns FO was smart they would be buyers and trade all of their first, second and third round picks for proven players in the league, young proven players that way they can't screw up the draft again!