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I'd love your opinion on these guys that I had in my first-pick mock. They're guys I've seen a little of but read much more on, and most of it is very good. 2 are position changes assuming we stay with 34. Anyway, I know you spend a lot of time reviewing players - would just like to hear what you have on them, if anything yet.


Round 3 Pick 1 (64) Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville (34 DE)
Round 4 Pick 2 (97) Tyler Matakevich, OLB, Temple (34 MLB)
Round 5 Pick 2 (129) Denver Kirkland, OT/OG, Arkansas

This was a fun one. Started with the Rams making a trade offer too good to pass up (to get Lynch.) By trading down I still got a top 10 pick and picked up 2 more 2nd round picks and another 3rd rounder. I was able to pick up play makers at all 3 levels of the D, a QB to develop, 2 big WR and a TE/WR hybrid, and some OL projects with potential. Of course this is pure fantasy, this draft would never really happen, but it was fun.

TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
ST. LOUIS RAMS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 2
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 9
ROUND: 2 PICK: 6
ROUND: 2 PICK: 9
ROUND: 3 PICK: 9

9: R1P9 CB VERNON HARGREAVES III, FLORIDA
33: R2P2 OLB JAYLON SMITH, NOTRE DAME
37: R2P6 DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN, MICHIGAN STATE
40: R2P9 WR MICHAEL THOMAS, OHIO STATE
65: R3P2 QB CARSON WENTZ, NORTH DAKOTA STATE
72: R3P9 OLB JOSHUA PERRY, OHIO STATE
97: R4P2 TE EVAN ENGRAM, OLE MISS
129:R5P2 OT JOE HAEG, NORTH DAKOTA STATE
159:R6P2 WR DEVON CAJUSTE, STANFORD
191:R7P2 C RYAN KELLY, ALABAMA

Gosh I'd sure like to see him play to figure that out. He threw for 370 yards on Pitt with Benjamin, Barnidge, and Hartline. I'd have to think giving him new weapons like Doctson or Dural and another reliable fast 6-footer in Spruce would only help him.

Hey CL I'm only watched Kirkland and I like him. big strong guy who could help our run game especially if Schwartz walks. Ive only caught bits and pieces of Louisville and temple so far this year but have some dvr to get through.

If Kirkland's teammate, that big MLB comes out I'd like to pick him up in the mid rounds. He's a real run stuffer IMO.

Place to start ... go with the true 4/3 on the D.. Can't emphasis how much I dislike the 3/4 and ESPECIALLY . Pettine's version of it !

Do you see a top 3/5 QB pick in the up coming draft ?

I'm just scared of the draft


I'm tired of trading back and not pickin the cream of the crop.

I'm tired of drafting projects in the first round.

I'm tired of them not starting.

We could draft bosa, yet for some reason, try to justify him switching to OLB, instead of leaving him at DE where he belongs.

"Do you see a top 3/5 QB pick in the up coming draft ? "
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That is a "large" question.

The draft is so subjective. Each GM and their staff's build a draft board. There are 32 teams and each one can see the draft differently in regards to ranking players.

Then you have the argument of BPA versus need.

Normally BPA is the way to go for most teams. Until quarterback is in the equation. When you do not have a solution at the position then you may have to alter your board.

Goff, Lynch and Cook are considered the top prospects at quarterback.

Looking at: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

Bosa is ranked number one. Lynch two and Goff is ranked 5th and Cook 20th.( I do not agree with this ranking, just an example)

Bosa is no JJ. Watt. There is no consensus stand alone number one guy.

If the Browns ( management as is or all new)see a guy that they believe can lead this team in the future they have to take the guy.

Forget getting cute and trading back. Take the guy they believe in.

If they do not see any of the QB prospects as the future. Then go BPA.

There are individual things I like about the top three quarterbacks. After going through the "process" one may stand out. To date I like Cook. However, I am open to changing if over the time before the draft I get more information that influences my decision.

Andrew Luck was the best college quarterback, NFL prospect I have ever seen. He was like a perfect ten.
Smarts, work ethic, size, speed, accuracy, arm, leadership. Guys like him do not come out every year.

The top three guys are not in that league. That however does not mean that one of them could turn out to be a gem.

What if you think the best QB in this draft is not as good of a QB as Manziel is? Or, isn't significantly better than Manziel?

If for some stupid reason we don't draft a QB, then I want Jaylon Smith.

cook is a total jerk.

This draft could be like a couple of years ago. Houston needed a QB, but passed on Bortles and Bridgewater for Clowney. It could be a situation of passing on Suh for Bradford like St Louis did a few years ago. I think Bradford was average at best as a prospect and Suh was gonna be a monster.

I just hope we're not stupid enough to make Bosa play as a OLB.

In hindsight, the Texans should have taken Khalil Mack.

Bradford was a surefire #1 the year he was drafted.

I NEVER understood the Bradford hype. I thought he was average and was the product of playing garbage defenses his whole career.

I remember having mixed feelings about him at the time. Either way, he was the consensus top pick when he came out and no one really questioned the selection.

I still think they should have taken a QB.

The dumb thing about it is that they could have had Clowney or Mack and Carr.

My guess is that they didn't want the baggage of having David Carr's little brother.

Joe Banner has been hammering this point on Twitter for awhile.

I wish we'd switch to a 4-3. It's been a damn train wreck trying to run a 3-4. You can have incredible success in a 4-3 and it's EASIER to scout for. New England switched. Seattle and Carolina run 4-3 defenses.

I agree. Most teams now run a 3-4. That should allow some players who don't fit many teams schemes to drop to us in the draft.

It's probably a pipe dream, but I hope we somehow get Jim Schwartz as our defensive coordinator.

If we draft a QB I really hope we actually draft playmakers and don't surround him with UDFAs and late round picks. I'm tired of setting QBs up to fail. Do what the Colts did when they drafted Luck. Immediately made the next picks weapons for him.

There is always the 1% chance that Gordon comes back, but it's too bad these last two drafts weren't loaded with wide receivers. We could have really used one.

If he were to be another Patrick Willis, I'd be on board with that. You'd need to trade to #5 or so to get the value...

If he's another Patrick Willis, then you don't need to trade to anywhere to get value.

We will probably take a QB though, so it doesn't matter.

Depends on how the next 4 games go.
Even if Manziel stinks up the joint, they still have McCown for another year. I guess it depends on what our FO thinks of this year's crop of rookie QBs. Oh wait...crap.

Round 1 Pick 1: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
Round 2 Pick 1: Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State
Round 3 Pick 1: Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss
Round 4 Pick 1: Leonte Carroo, WR, Rutgers
Round 5 Pick 1: Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech
Round 6 Pick 1: Nate Sudfeld, QB, Indiana
Round 7 Pick 1: Devonte Fields, DE, Louisville
Round 7 Pick 2: Travis Feeney, OLB, Washington

I did this draft thinking that the likely new coaching staff will switch to a 4-3. The Browns are no good in the 3-4 anyways and the best defensive players on the defense could play 3-4 or 4-3. So being the #1 pick and the best prospect being Bosa then doing a switch like this could make some sense.

After the win, we now have the third pick behind the Titans (#1) and the Chargers (#2). Neither team is going to draft a QB, but a trade up is still a possibility.

The Titans remaining schedule is @Patriots, Texans, and @Colts. That looks like three losses. The Colts should have Luck back for week seventeen. If they lose out they will likely have the #1 pick because their SoS will probably the lowest.

The Chargers are playing Dolphins, @Raiders, and @Broncos. The Dolphins are also terrible, so that is a possible win for San Diego.

If I had to bet I'd say we're going to end up picking second.

A Miami win helps us with SOS.

Yeah, the Titans playing the Pats helps too.

Round 1: A Passrusher that we ask to cover WRs
Round 2: A WR that has an issue with drops
Round 3: Someone Good
Round 4: Who cares they'll probably get cut anyways..
Round 5: Traded for a pick next year
Round 6: Traded for a pick next year
Round 7: Cut, signs with another team, becomes good

Sadly I trust this team with mid round picks more than early picks.

Hard to say. We might even win another game or two. We will just have to wait it out.

We play @Seattle, @kansas city and Pittsburgh. I'd be shocked out of my mind if we beat any of those teams.


I hope Manziel keeps progressing. I'd love Bosa or Nkemdiche (yes I heard the story).

And now Nkemdiche got busted for pot.

If we don't pick a QB, then I want Smith from Notre Dame in the first round and Myles Jack in the second round. Make it so!

Bradford also came into the league damaged, IIRC.

Round 1 could also be: An 'athletic' project that is indifferent about being a pro.

I hate when people throw out Pass rusher or WR.


If you have someone in mind, say it, otherwise you can't debate why that position is best in round 1.