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Or act like swish...

Well, affirmative action for one is supposed to...

But you said this...



So we've established that the term "Uncle Tom" is used to describe successful black people who don't do enough to help down trodden black people....

Then repeatedly it was said on this thread that white people don't care about inner cities.. so is it not safe to assume that "inner city" is a euphemism for "black"?

So if A=B and B=C, they you are the one who said his policies don't help blacks... so I will pass it back to you, since you started it, to tell me what policies help or don't help blacks...

Like what?

Seems like you guys want me to shut up about social injustices done to anybody, and just be a nice cog in the machine and let society treat us like pushovers.

Sorry that I question your perfect reality.

You act like a poor victim..social injustice yeah ok..I've been enriched by the sjw types..sorry if I don't find your rich and vibrant culture all that appealing:/

Yes. A story of redemption means that he didn't originally do it. That's all I said. Ben Carson did not follow Arch's rules. That cannot be argued. I'm not sure why you're trying to pin me against him because he's successful despite me saying that I don't dislike him because he's successful.

Are these people hurting white people? How many white people does the United Negro College Fund hurt? I wasn't aware that white people were so impacted by the National Black Chamber of Commerce.

People are naturally more comfortable around people who look and act like themselves. That is true in much of Nature. That is not part of the problem though. Them ISIS boys are lighter skinned than you and we bomb the turds out of them!

Most White people I know, those who like and respect Blacks who have earned our respect and those who don't like Blacks because they are Blacks, see the Black community as part of the problem in these United States. Too much poverty, a lack of discipline and self respect, too much crime, etc. Many see Blacks as a threat to life and limb. We watch you feed on each other in our major cities. Drugged and lost parents eating their hungry children's lunches! This is Horrifying stuff! We want it to stop!

So, Most Whites I know, Conservative and (them), would like to see the Black Race elevated to become a more vital part of American Society. They are not looking to hold you down, this is why we have spent soooooo much money over the years on programs to help you up.

Whites don't want to fear you or feel put upon by you financially, they want you to rise up and help more with the taxes and the growth of American Society.

Holding you down only serves to hold ALL of us down!
My personal opinion is What the Hell is taking so long?

does affirmative action count? I've seen "white" people passed over for promotion because the business wanted more minorities in a position of authority.

Then can't perform the job and is dumber then a box of rocks. Not saying all minorities are dumb, just the ones in this particular situation.

I just really believe it's a lot less than you believe. I've told you before that I've worked for several international companies, and I've never seen it. At one company, they fired the Italian decent guy because he got abusive to the Thailander (not sure what they call people from Thailand, but that sounds good) because his English sucked. The guy's English did suck, but he was getting better. He always won the wing challenges at any wing place we went to.

I also think race relations were better before all the BLM and stuff started. Accusing all white people of being racist and benefactors of a secret society sounds really stupid to a guy like me, who has worked for everything all his life, sat next to blacks in the same schools, taking the same classes, watching the same percentages of white kids get the same sort of grades as blacks, and working with black, white, yellow, red, green, and blue people all my life.

It might have been my military upbringing, as I believe the military is much less self segregating than other parts of society. I also think the better path for equality is to let people prove their benefits of being equal. I've worked with black people that I couldn't stand, and I've worked with black people I liked. It's the same with whites, latinos, and Asians.

I personally believe if everyone just tried to be polite, we'd fix this problem a lot faster.

No we didn't. Please find someone saying this. Stop trying to make us attack Ben Carson's success. We have nothing against that. I'm getting tired of saying this again and again. You're honestly getting towards completely pidgeonholding me. I also don't know why I have to do research on your candidate. If you've listened to his debates, speeches and policy talks, very little of it helps a major segment of the population. There's a reason why he's a Republican.

No, but that's because anecdotal evidence is laughed at on this forum. Affirmative action is still needed though obviously.

Did I say these people are hurting White people? No! I just answered your assertion that there are no policies helping Black people. Stop with the twisting already!

"...more than someone else"

We put qualifiers on sentences for a reason. Try reading next time. Also, all of your listed organizations are around because of Conservative policies through segregation.

I don't agree with that, but ok.

No I don't think affirmative action is needed anymore..obviously.

C'mon 40, you've got to know by now that you can't say anything on here and have someone address it straight up. They have to twist it and mold it to fit the position they want to present.

You have now changed the subject about three times.. from the general of what does "Uncle Tom" mean... to is Ben Carson one... now it's dissecting his policies.. clearly you have no intention of actually discussing anything to conclusion... all along the way hurling insults.. I think I'm done here.

No I haven't. You just can't read. I've explained the history of Uncle Tom to you. You asked me if I thought Ben Carson was one. I told you it wasn't my term. I never called Ben Carson an Uncle Tom. I've made sure of that.

You or Erik tried to tell me that I called Ben Carson an "Uncle Tom" because he is successful. You think that I dislike Ben Carson because I really hate the idea of Siamese twins being separated. You think I dislike Ben Carson because he's a successful doctor. Which I'm not. I'm actually glad he's a good doctor. We need a lot of doctors like him.

I told you, or Erik, that success doesn't correlate to Uncle Tom (As I told you before.) and that policies determine these things will be able to tell you. You then asked me to give you a detailed report about Ben Carson lol. I've just been answering your questions, breh. No need to get upset.

Yea, ain't it great though!

I act like I've experienced injustice. You can call that playing victim all you want.

It's funny on this board how if somebody has experience something, it's playing the victim. But hey, your life is the same as everybody's, right?

My wife's family works for international companies.

And I don't think that's a fair comparison bro. Of course people that work in direct international companies show more tolerance, as they are different themselves.

My wife doesn't know that Jaquan is a black name. She just thought it's an American name.

But over here, that's associated with black/ghetto.

You're a smart dude. I shouldn't have to explain that to you.

I don't understand his idea that somehow he BLM made things worse. Unless your against the idea of people bringing up social injustice.

Look I've read your stuff for what seems like about a year..football post's of yours not bad but this side of the board yikes

Weather you believe it or not we probably had very similar surroundings growing up..I had no white friends till I went to the Marine's when I got out lived in some very impoverished environments

So yes I have a great deal of experience with this topic..the same life as you? no but i bet they look very close to one another till I decided I had enough, the same with my wife and children.

but go ahead and use that broad brush..and I will keep trying to find this mysterious white privileged that will keep me above the poor blacks and minorities.

you're acting like i didn't change my situation though. and thats the problem.

you're responding to me as if i'm some loser on welfare and government assistance. also, you're first post taking a shot at me is somewhat confusing, as i have no idea who you are.

and thanks for giving me your blessing to use the broad bush. i bought it at home depot.

when you tell somebody they can't read, when you say that it's easier to assume all southerners are racists, etc.. you do all that you can to incite anger then act surprised when you get it. either you view yourself as a great manipulator or you are dumber than a tree stump.. I haven't figure out which yet.

Do you really think white privilege doesn't exist? You seem pretty smart and reasonable, so I'd be surprised if you really thought this. If you don't, if I showed you an example of it would you change your mind?

No I've read you brag repeatedly about you change in life..Your BMW..Money you can spend ect..It seems to be a problem for you that maybe no one gives a crap what you've done.

I will say I'm sorry for the pot shot..you caught me on a bad day and I'm honestly sick to death of hearing poor minorities how bad they have it.

You have said you want honest discussion, but it seems to me you mean you just want everyone to agree with you..so continue to be a smart ass that really helps your cause..

Hope your ptsd isn't triggered..go smoke a bowl and go buy all the brushes you want:)

lol, now you're a joke.

i honestly don't care what people say about me, what i care is the people around me, society. i think i've made that perfectly clear. no matter what MY situation is, its not gonna stop me from speaking out for all the other people who are struggling to make it.

you seem to have a problem with it. good. it's not gonna stop.

so you can either debate my points, or keep taking empty personal shots, either way, i win.

I'm fine actually..cause if people like you think I'm the joke I'm doing just fine. You've said repeatedly on this board you don't care what people think..you sure put a lot of effort into making people believe different.

Not a problem you are what I thought you are..so win away broken little man:)

still taking shots instead of talking about the issues?

Nor I to you. Yes, Jaquan is a name that is typically associated with blacks. So what? Just because someone's name is John, it doesn't mean he's a good worker. You're assuming everyone is a bigot, and that isn't true.

i never said anything about everyone being a bigot.

ever.

I'll end with you here..There are no issues to discuss with you..I'm white I am wrong and couldn't possibly understand your plights in life.

And don't flatter yourself kid..you only registered on the radar because your whiny post was the first one I opened..I just got culturally enriched by a couple of rich and vibrant youths that wanted my car.

So take the apology and move on..or don't, my give a crap meter is pegged at zero for you and your inability to discuss issues.

But it is what you are implying. Jaquan's resume will be round filed because of his name, every time. Therefore, you assume everyone is a bigot. No, Jaquan's resume will not be round filed every time, as most employers are now smart enough to look over the body of the resume to see if Jaquan would be an asset to the company.

...what?

this was rich:

"my give a crap meter is pegged at zero for you and your inability to discuss issues."

even though you're literally not discussing the issues, just doing a bunch of crying.

so, the violence in chicago, whats up?

it happens enough that it warrants discussion. thats my intention on bringing this issue up.

Often times you imply it in my opinion.

And, too often, you bring race into things when maybe race isn't the issue at all. You just did that today with the mali thing and you betting people won't change their facebook profiles.

Swish, just as you dislike sweeping generalizations about blacks, and that's fair and right by the way, many people dislike when you make sweeping generalizations about whites, because that isn't fair and right.

i already stated what my intentions were.

if you chose to ignore that, then i dunno what else to say.

You're wrong. It does not happen that much.

ok..Ill explain one last time..I've read your tripe for a year.

Not crying just stating your discussion points..I'm white I couldn't possibly understand because of said whiteness. I have privilege and should be ashamed of this.

I tried to extend an apology of sorts..you didnt accept thats fine..crying really what is this 3rd grade..nope just swish's discussion points..

Big freaking BINGO.

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/201...root-out-stigma
http://www.asianfortunenews.com/2014/06/workplace-discrimination-based-on-names/
https://www.recruiter.com/i/jose-vs-joe-name-discrimination-in-the-hiring-process/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics...rimination.html
https://www.chicagobooth.edu/capideas/spring03/racialbias.html
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/26/news/economy/applicant_names/

this is a pretty good one, even though based in Australia, mentions the studies done in the US:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/whats-nam...ceNoSplash=true

So i'm not wrong at all. it happens enough that it warrants discussion.

and it doesn't happen all that much? it shouldn't be happening AT ALL.