There was no attack. FBI wins. Beefed up security precautions included metal detectors for entry and heavy police presence with military assault weapons.
Now all of the thanksgiving day parades are beefing up security.
I'm new to this posting stuff..I read the heck of a lot of boards but never post..Guess I need to pace myself..It is kind of wierd to read the varying opinions and say things to myself.
But to interject yourself in the conversations feels a little taxing sometimes.
Just post the thought you want to convey and move on. Just because someone replies back doesn't mean you have to keep it up. Chances are pretty good around here it's a strawman anyway and you don't want to get sucked into defending a point you weren't making in the first place. Some people seem to enjoy arguing and a few others just love to troll and see who they can get to bite on some outrageous statement.
What about the families that got split up because someone was killed?
You, weiner, clem and rocket sure do like to ignore the half of the argument we are presenting.
Almost like you willingly stuck a pencil in your eyes just so you can have this perspective.
It's not like people haven't just recently been killed on a large scale here.
This is exactly the problem sane people who actually care about life want people like you to understand.
Many of these refugee families have been split because husbands, fathers and sons have been killed.
Yea, people are killed on a HUGE scale here daily, but not by Muslims. If you compare the death tolls of innocents of 911 and the Bush administration's attack on Iran, its incredibly easy to see Muslims have way more reason to fear us.
First take the pencil out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to understand there's no pencil in your brother's eye.
My opinion is that it is sheer stupidity to invite the citizens of a country that hates our country to come and live here. I mean do you seriously think that ISIS or one of the many other terrorists groups in Syria is not trying to smuggle or sneak in some of their sleeper agents in with the people seeking asylum? Seriously?
Lets take care of Americans first for once.
Most of the refugee haters are willing to vote for a refugee hater who knife attacked a friend and believes the pyramids are grain silos.
The same refugee hater who said college students should have attacked a mass shooter.
The pro-refugee-life people's intelligence is genius when compared to the sheer stupidity of Carson and his supporters.
Don't try the "America first" if you're willing to trash its principles. It reveals your fake pro-life principles.
Thanks..I feel like if I don't respond it is rude so to speak..Like I said read a ton, posting 1 time in over 10yrs..then went into what felt like overdrive felt kind of nuts.
I enjoy this board quite a bit..it got me through some health things for a stretch in my life and was never able to stop reading here.
No matter what was going on in my life, I read this place damn near daily.
I don't like Carson he does sound kind of looney at TIMES..plus he seems like he wouldnt be able to project authority or power to anyone let alone some of the world leaders.
I can't speak for anyone who has been through a mas shooting..but I can tell you with 100% certainty I would not have been lined up like cattle and shot.
Is it wise to run if given the opportunity sure..BUT sometimes in life you better fight back with everything you've got..your life or someone else depends on it..I guess that's why there are victims and then there are victors..I prefer victor.
I don't believe not wanting to let in refugees from a part of the world that literally hates Americans is trashing American principles..I think its just being prudent.
I don't like Carson he does sound kind of looney at TIMES..plus he seems like he wouldnt be able to project authority or power to anyone let alone some of the world leaders.
I can't speak for anyone who has been through a mas shooting..but I can tell you with 100% certainty I would not have been lined up like cattle and shot.
Is it wise to run if given the opportunity sure..BUT sometimes in life you better fight back with everything you've got..your life or someone else depends on it..I guess that's why there are victims and then there are victors..I prefer victor.
I don't believe not wanting to let in refugees from a part of the world that literally hates Americans is trashing American principles..I think its just being prudent.
Letting in refugees with the policy we have gives them a chance to be victors over the terrorists running their countries. American principles about refugees are written on the Statue of Liberty. That statement doesn't include' "...unless you're Muslims!!".
There's been a radical fundamentalist conspiracy to label all Muslims as radicals. The same people who insist gun owners shouldn't have to be subjected to policies that are in response to the over-whelming number of gun deaths. Even though those deaths are in direct correlation to the number of guns.
I shouldn't and don't claim that even though there's a common factor to these deaths, guns, that all gun owners are murdering terrorists. If they were held to the same generalized standards then we should deport them.
i wouldn't have a problem if they moved to my neighborhood.
Well, even the terrorist ones don't usually blow up their own neighborhood, so there is that.
TSA accidentally hired 70+ people that were on the DHS terror watchlist a while back... Obama suspended bringing in Iraqi refugees for a month or two because of problems with the vetting process...
As far as the dog analogy, it doesn't seem that unreasonable of an analogy... because he's not saying they are dogs or should be treated like dogs..
I'm a little tired of being told I'm somehow unAmerican or unChristian for urging caution...
I prefer the able bodied men be victors in their own country..it's yours fight for it.
If by some insane chance America was in a similiar situation I can assure you I would not be the one fleeing to other countries to take welfare.
I know what the Statue of Liberty says..but our country is established now..we don't need to accept boatloads of immigrants to help populate the country anymore.
I understand the idea behind the saying, i just don't agree with you that it should be an open ivitation to the worlds problem people.
And just so I understand you better..what is the common factor in these deaths and guns??
I'm a little tired of being told I'm somehow unAmerican or unChristian for urging caution...
Isn't it amazing how liberals in the press bash Christianity until it suits their purposes.
Caution is already in place.
The discussion is not allowing refugees to settle.
The politics have been established by radical conservatives.
A refugee, as defined by Section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), is a person who is unable or unwilling to return to his or her home country because of a “well-founded fear of persecution” due to race, membership in a particular social group, political opinion, religion, or national origin. This definition is based on the United Nations 1951 Convention and 1967 Protocols relating to the Status of Refugees, which the United States became a party to in 1968. Following the Vietnam War and the country’s experience resettling Indochinese refugees, Congress passed the Refugee Act of 1980, which incorporated the Convention’s definition into U.S. law and provides the legal basis for today’s U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP).
In other words, refugees are not those who are fleeing war.
And we have examples, recent examples, of the caution that is in place being flawed.
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The discussion is not allowing refugees to settle.
that is the issue for some... there are far more who are simply urging caution... don't expect your media to report on those, they don't make nearly as exciting headlines... and "Ben Carson compares Syrians to dogs"...
Conservatives are the problem with everything. In fact I'm pretty sure Obama is on one of his world tours and that is one of his major themes as he bashes America overseas like he is so prone to do.
How about fighting back? and no radical conservatives are not the freaking problem. I saw some poll where almost 70% of Americans don't want the Syrian refugees here.
In other words, refugees are not those who are fleeing war.
How about fleeing be-headings and hangings?
The world has identified them as refugees, but you're trying to redefine the word.
Like I said, radical conservatives have put the politics into this issue.
And left wind nut jobs created the problem in the first place by drawing a red line and doing absolutely nothing when it was crossed. Silly....just weak and silly.
NO NO..They only have the right answers..and any hard right conservative is the racist or bigot and woe to the United States..hell in their mind a woe to the whole world.
Rock are you ever going to explain what the heck you meant by there is a common factor to these deaths and guns?? I sincerely would like to know what you mean by that.
Conservatives are the problem with everything. In fact I'm pretty sure Obama is on one of his world tours and that is one of his major themes as he bashes America overseas like he is so prone to do.
When Fox and radical pundits report these examples of flawed caution and other radical issues it's only to promote their agenda. The cry about media coverage goes both directions on the political spectrum. There's no media conspiracy against radical conservatives.
Why focus caution for refugees while ignoring, and even campaigning against, increased caution on background check for guns? Which flawed caution has caused more American deaths?
Conservatives are the problem with everything. In fact I'm pretty sure Obama is on one of his world tours and that is one of his major themes as he bashes America overseas like he is so prone to do.
When Fox and radical pundits report these examples of flawed caution and other radical issues it's only to promote their agenda. The cry about media coverage goes both directions on the political spectrum. There's no media conspiracy against radical conservatives.
Why focus caution for refugees while ignoring, and even campaigning against, increased caution on background check for guns? Which flawed caution has caused more American deaths?
Somebody order more straw, rock is using all he's got.
Which has more deaths heart disease or people killed with assault rifles in America? Which has more deaths kids drowning in swimming pools or someone killed with an ar15 in America?
Maybe this one you will answer..How many baby's killed by late term abortion or someone killed by an assault weapon?
Rock are you ever going to explain what the heck you meant by there is a common factor to these deaths and guns?? I sincerely would like to know what you mean by that.
I'm not sure if you're saying you don't realize that the US has more guns and gun deaths than most nations.
Which has more deaths heart disease or people killed with assault rifles in America? Which has more deaths kids drowning in swimming pools or someone killed with an ar15 in America?
Maybe this one you will answer..How many baby's killed by late term abortion or someone killed by an assault weapon?
How many heart disease deaths are caused by someone pointing a heart disease weapon?
How many drownings are caused by one person drowning another.
Please compare the number of late term abortions to murder by guns.
If you want to separate the statistics between guns and assault rifles then try to separate refugees from terrorists.
Conservatives are the problem with everything. In fact I'm pretty sure Obama is on one of his world tours and that is one of his major themes as he bashes America overseas like he is so prone to do.
When Fox and radical pundits report these examples of flawed caution and other radical issues it's only to promote their agenda. The cry about media coverage goes both directions on the political spectrum. There's no media conspiracy against radical conservatives.
Why focus caution for refugees while ignoring, and even campaigning against, increased caution on background check for guns? Which flawed caution has caused more American deaths?
How bout you focus on better and more appropriate care for those with mental illness?
No, the left wing blind believers who think everything our government tells us has to be fact :-) want to take guns away from law abiding peace loving citizens but leave them in the hands of thugs, terrorists and protectors of our lieing, cheating government officials.
These are the same people who believe that Dr. Ben Carson actually compared refugees to dogs. The same people who can't understand he was simply creating a situational/response hypothetical scenario. All one who thinks logically can do is laugh and say, carry on.
When Fox and radical pundits report these examples of flawed caution and other radical issues it's only to promote their agenda.
And when CNN and MSNBC say that everything is fine and I'm anti-American for urging caution, they are doing what exactly?
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The cry about media coverage goes both directions on the political spectrum. There's no media conspiracy against radical conservatives.
Yes it does, on one hand you have Fox News, on the other hand you have... well pretty much everybody else.
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Why focus caution for refugees while ignoring, and even campaigning against, increased caution on background check for guns? Which flawed caution has caused more American deaths?
Do you want to talk about refugees or do you want to talk about gun control? Pretty sure we've had gun control debates.. maybe we could morph it into a gang violence conversation, or bring abortion into it, hey, I know, let's talk about the evils of big oil.. that should divert the topic and ensure that we never actually talk about anything. If you want to talk about inconsistencies, the left has plenty of their own.. but diverting into those only muddies the waters of the conversation. So, back to refugees.
And why does he keep saying the radical conservative thing?? If wanting smaller government, lower taxes, and not wanting everyone of the worlds less desirable makes me radical..I am one radical person:/
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