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Somewhere in spirit Dandy Don is singing, "Turn out the lights, Pettine is over..."


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3 points... Pettine is really teaching Manziel a lesson!


Like we would have scored more with Manziel.


Yes.

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Hill may be a punk but I'd take him any day. He's running very well for them.
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He wouldn't gain a yard with our line.


It isn't the line it's the scheme. Last year we ran the ball VERY well. So in one year our line forgot how to block? No, Flip just HAD to change and run his blocking scheme and system.


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Wish all the Browns fans would walk out and leave First Energy Stadium


Have you seen the stands? Most already have.

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there is noone on this team that should be off limits for a trade or outright cut..It should be a given the coaches are all gone. I really wish haslam would sell the team..but because browns fans are stupid and keep buying the products he makes money. This is the most embarrasing team since 99 but atleast in 99 you knew it was going to be bad, zero expectations then.


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I am fairly certain we would be doing better with Manziel at QB today. I can't prove it, of course, but no one can proveI am wrong.

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What is it going to take for someone to take some action and fire someone, our defense is absolutely pitiful, get Oneil out of there, our special teams is horrendous, fire Tabor, heck fire DeFillipo, the offense is terrible! Do something!

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Somewhere in spirit Dandy Don is singing, "Turn out the lights, Pettine is over..."


This is the game that gets everyone fired usually.

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Hill may be a punk but I'd take him any day. He's running very well for them.
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He wouldn't gain a yard with our line.


It isn't the line it's the scheme. Last year we ran the ball VERY well. So in one year our line forgot how to block? No, Flip just HAD to change and run his blocking scheme and system.


Correction...he wouldn't gain a yard with our offensive scheme.

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Somewhere in spirit Dandy Don is singing, "Turn out the lights, Pettine is over..."


This is the game that gets everyone fired usually.


we've had like 6 of these games


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Why are these announcers praising Austin Davis? He has been average at best and we have three points.


They are probably told to try to find something good to say about every team. So whom else could they possibly praise?


How about being honest instead of feeding fans slop?


Not the NFL way. They spin everything to make the game look good.


I know, but there are idiots out there who now think Austin Davis is a good QB and just needs a better offensive line.
The line has played horribly, with Erving to blame for much of it. Not sure how you can't recognize that. It's been horrid. But, if you want to keep ignoring that fact and calling other members idiots for disagreeing with you, go for it.

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Well I'm glad it took you this long to figure that out. The Browns moved away from zone blacking to a power blocking scheme that they cannot execute at all!! So yes, we could run last year but he ran Kyle and that scheme away from Cleveland.

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Originally Posted By: Browns_D02
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Hill may be a punk but I'd take him any day. He's running very well for them.
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He wouldn't gain a yard with our line.


It isn't the line it's the scheme. Last year we ran the ball VERY well. So in one year our line forgot how to block? No, Flip just HAD to change and run his blocking scheme and system.


Correction...he wouldn't gain a yard with our offensive scheme.


That I can absolutely agree with. But hopefully next years OC will believe the run game is useful. Not an after thought.


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Why are these announcers praising Austin Davis? He has been average at best and we have three points.


They are probably told to try to find something good to say about every team. So whom else could they possibly praise?


How about being honest instead of feeding fans slop?


Not the NFL way. They spin everything to make the game look good.


I know, but there are idiots out there who now think Austin Davis is a good QB and just needs a better offensive line.
The line has played horribly, with Erving to blame for much of it. Not sure how you can't recognize that. It's been horrid. But, if you want to keep ignoring that fact and calling other members idiots for disagreeing with you, go for it.


austin davis=Colt mccoy


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Why are these announcers praising Austin Davis? He has been average at best and we have three points.


They are probably told to try to find something good to say about every team. So whom else could they possibly praise?


How about being honest instead of feeding fans slop?


Not the NFL way. They spin everything to make the game look good.


I know, but there are idiots out there who now think Austin Davis is a good QB and just needs a better offensive line.
The line has played horribly, with Erving to blame for much of it. Not sure how you can't recognize that. It's been horrid. But, if you want to keep ignoring that fact and calling other members idiots for disagreeing with you, go for it.


I was not calling you an idiot. I was calling people who listen to idiot announcers and believe them idiots.

Obviously Erving is terrible.

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Well I'm glad it took you this long to figure that out. The Browns moved away from zone blacking to a power blocking scheme that they cannot execute at all!! So yes, we could run last year but he ran Kyle and that scheme away from Cleveland.


Didn't take me long man. I was saying it the day Shanahan left. That it was highly likely our run game went with him. Of course I didn't know HOW bad it would get.


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Somewhere in spirit Dandy Don is singing, "Turn out the lights, Pettine is over..."


This is the game that gets everyone fired usually.


we've had like 6 of these games


Not like this. This is a whole nother level of bad.

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Holy crap there is 14 more minutes of this shite? I'd rather be having a proctologic exam.....


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Well, if Farmer gets fired I go after Shanny for HC. Pretty sure Shanny doesn't come here if Farmer is GM.


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They should put JM in to punish him.


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They should put JM in to punish him.


rofl


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What on earth did Ray see in Erving to pick him that high?


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Well I will hit you with another one.. we should have switched to a 4-3 instead of trying to run a 3-4 that we dont have the LBs for. We need a inside LB and a hard charging outside LB and a REAL shutdown corner. This team has so many holes its just sad.

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Holy crap there is 14 more minutes of this shite? I'd rather be having a proctologic exam.....


I switched to the RedZone Channel, I couldn't take it anymore.

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Somewhere in spirit Dandy Don is singing, "Turn out the lights, Pettine is over..."


This is the game that gets everyone fired usually.


we've had like 6 of these games


Not like this. This is a whole nother level of bad.


This is what happens when 2-9 meets 9-2 Not a surprising outcome. I'm kind of surprised they haven't dropped a 50 burger on us. This Defense is awful.


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That's a lateral


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Well, if Farmer gets fired I go after Shanny for HC. Pretty sure Shanny doesn't come here if Farmer is GM.


I wouldn't touch Shanahan with a ten foot pole.

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I actually think the Florida Gators QB was better!!!


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OK now perhaps they WILL drop a 50 burger on us....


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That wasn't backward, it was deflected!


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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
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Somewhere in spirit Dandy Don is singing, "Turn out the lights, Pettine is over..."


This is the game that gets everyone fired usually.


we've had like 6 of these games


Not like this. This is a whole nother level of bad.


This is what happens when 2-9 meets 9-2 Not a surprising outcome. I'm kind of surprised they haven't dropped a 50 burger on us. This Defense is awful.


There's still time.

I knew it would be bad, but this is really bad.

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They should put JM in to punish him.


rofl


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Well, if Farmer gets fired I go after Shanny for HC. Pretty sure Shanny doesn't come here if Farmer is GM.


I wouldn't touch Shanahan with a ten foot pole.


I'm talking about the OC that got us 7 wins last year. Not his dad.


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Just stand there an look at it, Crowell.


He's getting paid today. It's all good.


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