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Im starting to think some of the same people bagging on manziel a height were the same people saying Russell Wilson would fail


Isn't Wilson like 5'8"?

5'11", sorry.


Manziel hardly has the same supporting cast


This is true, if we shore up the line and get Gordon back (and he doesn't screw it up again) and get someone like Zeke or Henry it will certainly be an interesting season next year.

IF. NEXT YEAR.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
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Im starting to think some of the same people bagging on manziel a height were the same people saying Russell Wilson would fail


Isn't Wilson like 5'8"?

5'11", sorry.


Manziel hardly has the same supporting cast


So you GET him the supporting cast.


Exactly.

I'm starting to think it will be a mistake to get rid of him.

If the team wants a Brees - Rivers type of thing, I'm ok with that. Draft Lynch and start Manziel and let it play out over a few years.

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the steelers offense is scary good. so explosive


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SF is TERRIBLE
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Originally Posted By: MrTed
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Im starting to think some of the same people bagging on manziel a height were the same people saying Russell Wilson would fail


Isn't Wilson like 5'8"?

5'11", sorry.


Manziel hardly has the same supporting cast


This is true, if we shore up the line and get Gordon back (and he doesn't screw it up again) and get someone like Zeke or Henry it will certainly be an interesting season next year.

IF. NEXT YEAR.

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That's a lot of IFs to build a team around


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Why not?

Why can't we just commit to a QB for a change and get the guy some damn weapons?

If we don't have the talent at the skill position, something YOU say all the time, then it doesn't matter who the QB is, they aren't gonna get it done.

Manziel has talent. Let's get him some weapons.


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AJ Green.... SO gald we don't have a guy like that.


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Nice throw by McCarron there...


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Wow. Dalton might have really messed up that thumb.


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Originally Posted By: WhatCanBrownDo4U
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SF is TERRIBLE


Both are hilariously bad. It's says a lot for the number of mediocre teams that these 2 teams have any wins at all.


This game is battle of the scrubs.


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Im starting to think some of the same people bagging on manziel a height were the same people saying Russell Wilson would fail


Isn't Wilson like 5'8"?

5'11", sorry.


Manziel hardly has the same supporting cast


So you GET him the supporting cast.


Exactly.

I'm starting to think it will be a mistake to get rid of him.

If the team wants a Brees - Rivers type of thing, I'm ok with that. Draft Lynch and start Manziel and let it play out over a few years.


He'll most likely get rid of himself, all by himself.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Why not?

Why can't we just commit to a QB for a change and get the guy some damn weapons?

If we don't have the talent at the skill position, something YOU say all the time, then it doesn't matter who the QB is, they aren't gonna get it done.

Manziel has talent. Let's get him some weapons.


Fine. Johnny is the MAN. He's allowed to do whatever he wants. We won't try to upgrade the position.... He gets hurt? Oh that's right. 6 foot 200 pound scrambling QB's NEVER get hurt.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Why not?

Why can't we just commit to a QB for a change and get the guy some damn weapons?

If we don't have the talent at the skill position, something YOU say all the time, then it doesn't matter who the QB is, they aren't gonna get it done.

Manziel has talent. Let's get him some weapons.


If Manziel shows some promise these last 4 games, I'd have no problem with that. It'd be nice to go into a draft and not have to worry about the QB position for a change.


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Originally Posted By: Cjrae
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Im starting to think some of the same people bagging on manziel a height were the same people saying Russell Wilson would fail


Isn't Wilson like 5'8"?

5'11", sorry.


Manziel hardly has the same supporting cast


So you GET him the supporting cast.


Exactly.

I'm starting to think it will be a mistake to get rid of him.

If the team wants a Brees - Rivers type of thing, I'm ok with that. Draft Lynch and start Manziel and let it play out over a few years.


He'll most likely get rid of himself, all by himself.


That's your own personal preference.

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There you go with your extreme nonsense again.

I think Manziel has the tools to be Russell Wilson.

Dual threat. But I remember on the old boards you were clowning the Seahawks for starting Russell Wilson.


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Why not?

Why can't we just commit to a QB for a change and get the guy some damn weapons?

If we don't have the talent at the skill position, something YOU say all the time, then it doesn't matter who the QB is, they aren't gonna get it done.

Manziel has talent. Let's get him some weapons.


You probably could make the argument that if Johnny had more playing time this year he would have learned to not make that throw and he'd have a better feel for his receivers ..


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All the off the field stuff aside, Manziel has to play better than this to stay the starter. Yes we're winning but that TD drive was the running game.


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the steelers offense is scary good. so explosive


Yep, it sure seems that the mighty Steelers are back (sighs)..

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It's so funny, after like two games everyone thinks Johnny is the greatest qB to ever play the game. LOL He's got talent? How do you know? He's playing so so against one of the worst D's in the league. That makes him great? Tom Brady would be up 30-0 right now. But Johnny getting us 10 points in a half makes him awesome.....


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All the off the field stuff aside, Manziel has to play better than this to stay the starter. Yes we're winning but that TD drive was the running game.



Yes, and anyone notice we got away from that real fast? Running game working? Dump it. lol


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It's so funny, after like two games everyone thinks Johnny is the greatest qB to ever play the game. LOL He's got talent? How do you know? He's playing so so against one of the worst D's in the league. That makes him great? Tom Brady would be up 30-0 right now. But Johnny getting us 10 points in a half makes him awesome.....


It's about committing to a guy and letting him develop and grow.

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So we compare a second year QB to tom Brady?

Is anybody else reading the same thin I am?


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Originally Posted By: Swish
There you go with your extreme nonsense again.

I think Manziel has the tools to be Russell Wilson.

Dual threat. But I remember on the old boards you were clowning the Seahawks for starting Russell Wilson.


Too true, hasn't BIG BEN missed several games this year? Didn't Andy Dalton just get injured?
Cause we all know if you're a QB and you're over 6'2" you don't ever get hurt do you?


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Originally Posted By: Swish
So we compare a second year QB to tom Brady?

Is anybody else reading the same thin I am?


There's no common sense on this board.

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Manziel has been terrible against one of the worst defenses in the league. That almost safety string of plays was horrible. He then followed it up with the worst interception of the season.

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Yep, tom Brady torn his knee.

Rivers, when has NOT been injured?

Cutler gets injured all the time.

Hell, flacco is out for the season.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
So we compare a second year QB to tom Brady?

Is anybody else reading the same thin I am?


I haven't followed Brady closely, but what would rookie Tom Brady look like?


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who looks like a serviceable pro today?

Benji, Barnidge, Crow (surprising), Armonty, and that's about it


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Manziel has been terrible against one of the worst defenses in the league. That almost safety string of plays was horrible. He then followed it up with the worst interception of the season.


This is an embellishment.

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Originally Posted By: Squires
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So we compare a second year QB to tom Brady?

Is anybody else reading the same thin I am?


I haven't followed Brady closely, but what would rookie Tom Brady look like?


We don't know. He didn't play till his second year.

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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
It's so funny, after like two games everyone thinks Johnny is the greatest qB to ever play the game. LOL He's got talent? How do you know? He's playing so so against one of the worst D's in the league. That makes him great? Tom Brady would be up 30-0 right now. But Johnny getting us 10 points in a half makes him awesome.....


Relax, SD and TN won't take a QB, so we're good to go.

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
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So we compare a second year QB to tom Brady?

Is anybody else reading the same thin I am?


There's no common sense on this board.


well, I am sitting here dreading the lack of second half adjustments...wondering how we will make San Fran look good this half...and still keep hoping we win big...I think I lack sense at all - not just common fingerscrossed

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
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Manziel has been terrible against one of the worst defenses in the league. That almost safety string of plays was horrible. He then followed it up with the worst interception of the season.


This is an embellishment.


You're right. Terrible is a little strong. But he has not been good.

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It's so funny, after like two games everyone thinks Johnny is the greatest qB to ever play the game. LOL He's got talent? How do you know? He's playing so so against one of the worst D's in the league. That makes him great? Tom Brady would be up 30-0 right now. But Johnny getting us 10 points in a half makes him awesome.....


Relax, SD and TN won't take a QB, so we're good to go.


but they could trade the pick to a qb needy team for picks


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No clue. I think he started that super bowl run his second year?

And he was picked in the sixth round. Nobody could've predicted he was gonna be who he is today.


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It's so funny, after like two games everyone thinks Johnny is the greatest qB to ever play the game. LOL He's got talent? How do you know? He's playing so so against one of the worst D's in the league. That makes him great? Tom Brady would be up 30-0 right now. But Johnny getting us 10 points in a half makes him awesome.....


Relax, SD and TN won't take a QB, so we're good to go.


Good point.


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More fans there than I thought there would be.


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Our rush defense is back to form I see.


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It's so funny, after like two games everyone thinks Johnny is the greatest qB to ever play the game. LOL He's got talent? How do you know? He's playing so so against one of the worst D's in the league. That makes him great? Tom Brady would be up 30-0 right now. But Johnny getting us 10 points in a half makes him awesome.....


Relax, SD and TN won't take a QB, so we're good to go.


but they could trade the pick to a qb needy team for picks


This is also a good point.


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uh oh here comes the second half...


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