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So ..... we're also "keeping" some coaches .... before the head coach is hired? Really? Is this only till the new coach is hired, or just a forced marriage?


I can't blame him for this comment (I can blame him for a lot more). The new coach should be able to retain the coaches he wants.


Teams usually terminate the contracts of some coaches but keep the contracts of some coaches active awaiting the new head coach and his wants.


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We will see Spirit...I'm not feeling the gloom and doom but thats dependent on who is hired and how the draft goes, training camp, and preseason...and of course the regular season.

I'm prepared to quit watching after 54yrs so...maybe I just dont give a crap anymore?? superconfused

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Sounds like many already have Farmer/Pettine envy.


I have Pettine envy, not Farmer.


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Plus he said he is not spending any money on FA,, that was a Bowe slam, lesson learned


Boy, that'll bring the top candidates running.

No ability to bring in free agent talent, and an owner who will fire you if things aren't terrific in 2 years time.

I bet the candidates are just lining up a mile long for these jobs. crazy


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GM will not be allowed to have a cellphone either, just an old green rotary phone on a wall with a very short cord


Nope. The GM will not be allowed to have a phone on game day at all.

Sashi Brown will have the phone. crazy


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Plus he said he is not spending any money on FA,, that was a Bowe slam, lesson learned


Boy, that'll bring the top candidates running.

No ability to bring in free agent talent, and an owner who will fire you if things aren't terrific in 2 years time.

I bet the candidates are just lining up a mile long for these jobs. crazy


I thought he said he wasnt going to spend a gazillion dollars in free agency...not that he wasnt going to participate at all in free agency..

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Plus he said he is not spending any money on FA,, that was a Bowe slam, lesson learned


Boy, that'll bring the top candidates running.

No ability to bring in free agent talent, and an owner who will fire you if things aren't terrific in 2 years time.

I bet the candidates are just lining up a mile long for these jobs. crazy


I thought he said he wasnt going to spend a gazillion dollars in free agency...not that he wasnt going to participate at all in free agency..


Maybe I misunderstood. I am still in shock that a lawyer with an analytic sheet is going to run our draft. crazy


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I couldve to Y-town...but thats what I heard..

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Plus he said he is not spending any money on FA,, that was a Bowe slam, lesson learned


Boy, that'll bring the top candidates running.

No ability to bring in free agent talent, and an owner who will fire you if things aren't terrific in 2 years time.

I bet the candidates are just lining up a mile long for these jobs. crazy


I thought he said he wasnt going to spend a gazillion dollars in free agency...not that he wasnt going to participate at all in free agency..


Maybe I misunderstood. I am still in shock that a lawyer with an analytic sheet is going to run our draft. crazy


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Maybe I misunderstood. I am still in shock that a lawyer with an analytic sheet is going to run our draft. crazy


I think it's more like a collaborative effort. Sashi just is the group leader. Maybe. I don't know. Let's see what happens first.

Hopefully more than 3 wins next year. Right?


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Maybe I misunderstood. I am still in shock that a lawyer with an analytic sheet is going to run our draft. crazy


I think it's more like a collaborative effort. Sashi just is the group leader. Maybe. I don't know. Let's see what happens first.

Hopefully more than 3 wins next year. Right?



Thats what I heard also...but Sashi will have final say.

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No worries, Mrs. Haslam and a lawyer are going to fix everything.
What could go wrong? 0 and 16 isn't all that much worse.

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One other thing that stuck out in his presser was that there was contention between Farmer and Pettine. Gee, wonder why? I mean, Farmer was only texting coaches last year, and interfering with Pettine's job. Who knows what else took place?

Really, farmer should have been fired after the texting crap. That had to create a toxic situation, and a strong executive should have seen that, or at least should have seen it happening, and ended it immediately. (even if he had to fire Farmer in season)

That was another failure by Haslam.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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Plus he said he is not spending any money on FA,, that was a Bowe slam, lesson learned


Boy, that'll bring the top candidates running.

No ability to bring in free agent talent, and an owner who will fire you if things aren't terrific in 2 years time.

I bet the candidates are just lining up a mile long for these jobs. crazy


I thought he said he wasnt going to spend a gazillion dollars in free agency...not that he wasnt going to participate at all in free agency..


Maybe I misunderstood. I am still in shock that a lawyer with an analytic sheet is going to run our draft. crazy



Should be a vast improvement of the way we were drafting lol

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http://www.jaguars.com/team/management/sashi-brown.html



Sashi Brown

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Sashi Brown

Sashi Brown joined the Jaguars prior to the 2005 NFL season. Now in his seventh season with the Jaguars, Brown advises the franchise in a variety of legal and business matters. His responsibilities include contract negotiation, employment matters, insurance and risk management, intellectual property and licensing issues and litigation management. Prior to joining the Jaguars, Brown was an attorney with Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale and Dorr, a private law firm based in Washington, D.C. As a member of the firm’s corporate law practice group, Brown advised companies in a variety of business transactions.

Brown earned an undergraduate degree from Hampton University in 1998 and a juris doctorate degree from Harvard Law School in 2002. Brown is a member of the New York, District of Columbia and Florida bars.

In addition to his duties with the Jaguars, Brown serves as a member of the Board of Directors and Chairman of the Section 8 Subcommittee to the Jacksonville Housing Authority. Brown resides in Jacksonville with his wife Paige. He is a native of Boston,Boston, Massachusetts, where he was born on May 15, 1976.



From the Jaguars' web site.. it seems he has part of the GM background.. Contract Negoitiation.. etc.. maybe.. and it is a BIG maybe.. he will take advise on the scouting/acquisitions.. and work the contracts.. do not see football knowledge anywhere in the profile.

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Apart from the reality that giving lawyer-turned-football-executive Sashi Brown final say over the roster will make the Cleveland G.M. job less attractive to G.M. candidates who are at the top of the G.M. industry, the decision to elevate Brown to the top non-coaching football position within the Browns will make it harder to hire someone currently under contract with another team.

Because Sashi Brown has control over the 53-man roster, the Cleveland G.M. position doesn’t qualify for the portion of the tampering policy that allows a team to hire as G.M. someone currently working for another team, without permission from that team.

Which means that if the Browns target an up-and-coming scout or director of college scouting or director of pro personnel or any other person under contract with another team, the other team can refuse to let the person be interviewed and hired.

It means that the Browns will either have to hire someone that another team doesn’t want to keep, or they’ll have to hire someone who currently isn’t employed.

Whether the Browns thought that specific wrinkle through remains to be seen. If they didn’t, it definitely could put a crimp in their plans for interviewing G.M. candidates.

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Well that was a dumb thing to do.

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When Old is Better Than New
General Counsel Sashi Brown left one of the newest teams in the NFL—the Jacksonville Jaguars for one of the oldest: the Cleveland Browns. Here’s why.
By Jennifer Hopfinger

The Cleveland Browns are one of the most storied teams in the National Football League (NFL). Along with the San Francisco 49ers and the Baltimore Colts, the Browns were one of the original members of the NFL. It is the team of Running Back Jim Brown, widely considered to be one of the greatest professional athletes of all time. It is a team with eight league championships and 16 former players/coaches enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. These days, the Browns are a turnaround story, and Sashi Brown simply had to be a part of it.

A year ago, Brown left his post as General Counsel of the Jacksonville Jaguars (one of the youngest teams in the NFL, where he worked for eight seasons) to join the Cleveland Browns (one of the oldest teams), serving in the same role.

“There are great fans in Jacksonville, but there’s more of a legacy in Cleveland,” Brown said. “There’s more depth to the passion.”

Brown may love sports, but sports are not his first love, and it’s not why he got into law. He cautions other young lawyers to think similarly.

“You see a lot of students attracted to law school and sports law programs because they think a law degree is going to provide them an entry into a career in sports, and the reality is there are simply not enough jobs for everyone who is trying to do that,” Brown said. Rather, he advises that aspiring lawyers “be true to themselves about whether they want to be a lawyer or they want to be in sports.”

“I wish I could say I had a plan at the beginning of my career, but more than anything, when I finished school [Harvard Law] in 2002, I was interested in transactional work,” Brown said. “And for me, that meant not going to an enormous firm where I’d be marginalized. I wanted to work on large, sophisticated deals.”

So, he chose Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale and Dorr, a private law firm in Washington, DC. While the group wasn’t known for transactional work, Brown found it to be a thoughtful place in which to train.

The business side of legal work was appealing to the young professional because, he explained, transactional practice is more proactive and collaborative. He found this to be well suited with his personality, as opposed to litigation, which tends to be reactive and combative.

“I’d rather make a deal than fight over a deal,” Brown said.

The firm also happened to have a sports transactional practice, a rare niche, though there was no promise initially that Brown would be a part of it. Three years later, after expressing interest in and doing work for teams including the Baltimore Ravens, the Jaguars hired him.

Working Under a Microscope, In a Big Lab

Sports teams, Brown conveyed, are small companies with enormous public profiles. “Most of what we do is very public,” he said, “and that creates some interesting challenges. Our deals get reported in the news, so there’s a microscope on our work.”

With all of that scrutiny, what areas does Brown want to improve upon the most?

“Winning cures everything, so the first thing we set out to do is win,” he said. “Then, put ourselves on firm financial ground, create great partnerships and produce great media—we are, in many ways, a media production company. Basically, we want to run a championship franchise on and off the field.”

What’s a typical day for Brown? “I’m waiting for a typical day,” he said. Because it’s a small company, he has to wear many hats in his two-person Legal Department. He could be negotiating a player contract one day and working on risk management insurance the next. “My scope is sometimes uncomfortably broad. There’s no groundhog day for me.”

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They're hiring Korn Ferry (a consulting firm) to help with the hiring process.


KFI has been involved with JH for the better part of the season once it was evident that the tug of war between Pet and Ray-ray was not going to end.

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People can doom and gloom all they want. I will wait to see who they hire before I get digs in.


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wont matter who they hire if they handcuff football decisions to a freaking lawyer who has no business being apart of those decisions


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People can doom and gloom all they want. I will wait to see who they hire before I get digs in.


I'm with you. Im largely apathetic to be honest and I have extremely low expectations with the team anyways (10-6 optimistic predictions aside wink )

For all intents and purposes, the clues are there. Sushi isn't scouting yet has final say. Jimmy on both the press release after the firings and in the press conference has desired a collaborative approach, I just think sushi is there to facilitate, weigh it up and basically make the call after exhaustive discussion and collaboration. Someone has to.
By all accounts he's a smart cookie. Best case he is the smartest guy in the room and not just thinks he is. Keep his ego in check and play that role and it may work.

Mourgs post is a killer though, where the Browns may have nerf batted themselves. This consulting company is really gonna have to pull out all the stops to fill the GM role as it would appear they've painted themselves into a corner. Good track record on finding coaches for teams though.

For those that wanted the more traditional approach. How's that worked for us so far?

Wait and see. Don't emotionally invest if you can help it. Strap in.

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Make no mistake about NFL owners they are in control.

Most NFL teams either succeed or fail by the actions of their owners. Just look at the history of the Browns. Then look around the league.

Haslam is a new owner. He did not inherit a team. He has little experience in the NFL. Ownership is not an easy job. Haslam has to learn on the job.

What has just happened with the firing of Pettine and Farmer was expected. The team regressed. The personnel decisions did not work out. The team fractured.

Now Haslam has decided how he wants the orc chart to look and work.

I will not criticize his actions until the results of his actions play out.

Jimmy Haslam will determine if the Browns will ever rise again. We can only hope he succeeds.

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I feel significantly more pessimistic about our chances today, and considering where I was last night, that's saying something.

I hope that you are right in your hopes, but I see only dismal failure once again. (especially after watching the round table on NFLN talk about the Browns reinventing the wheel, instead of just looking at how successful teams in the division are built, and win. They also were less than enthusiastic about an analytics driven approach, seeing it as a useful tool to verify what you see, but not as the primary evaluator, as seems the way we will use it.

I am about to change my user name to "YTownFreeAgentFan". crazy I have never been this fed up with this team, with the significant exception of when Modell moved the team.


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Plus he said he is not spending any money on FA,, that was a Bowe slam, lesson learned


Boy, that'll bring the top candidates running.

No ability to bring in free agent talent, and an owner who will fire you if things aren't terrific in 2 years time.

I bet the candidates are just lining up a mile long for these jobs. crazy


I thought he said he wasnt going to spend a gazillion dollars in free agency...not that he wasnt going to participate at all in free agency..


the only FA coming here are the cash grab guys, and sre washed up. Williams, Bowe, Hartline ect

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Plus he said he is not spending any money on FA,, that was a Bowe slam, lesson learned


Boy, that'll bring the top candidates running.

No ability to bring in free agent talent, and an owner who will fire you if things aren't terrific in 2 years time.

I bet the candidates are just lining up a mile long for these jobs. crazy


I thought he said he wasnt going to spend a gazillion dollars in free agency...not that he wasnt going to participate at all in free agency..


the only FA coming here are the cash grab guys, and sre washed up. Williams, Bowe, Hartline ect


Hartline took less to come here. So no.

Also, aren't all free agents "cash grab" guys? Do you think Suh would have gone somewhere else if they paid him more than Miami.

Mario Williams went to freaking Buffalo.

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Haslam at his presser:


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'Jimmy Haslam threatens some poor QB with the second pick'

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Posted by Darin Gantt on January 4, 2016, 8:22 AM EST

Of all the things Browns owner Jimmy Haslam doesn’t know, the location of quarterback Johnny Manziel is definitely on the list.

But Haslam does have an idea how he might replace him, if it comes to that.

Via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Haslam said he agreed with left tackle Joe Thomas that quarterback was the most important position on the team, adding a warning shot of his own.

“I don’t think there is anything that compares to it in professional sports in terms of importance to a team,” Haslam said. “Joe has been around the game. He’s smart. He’s exactly right. . . .

“We do have the second pick in the draft.”

So, with apologies to Jared Goff or Paxton Lynch or whoever else the homeless guy tells Haslam to draft, it sounds like there’s another quarterback on the way.

But Haslam seemed as mystified as anyone about Manziel’s disappearance, saying he didn’t know why he missed a scheduled treatment at the team facility. When asked if he wanted the former first-rounder on the roster, Haslam was vague, deferring to officials he hasn’t hired yet.

“It will be up to the coaches, and executive vice president of football operations Sashi [Brown] and the G.M. as to who’s on the team,” he said. “They will make those calls.”

But it sounds like when he hires someone to make them, they’re going to have a strong suggestion as to what to do with their top pick.

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That article actually hurt my feelings a bit! lol! I'm serious. Winning a lot more games would change everything, but right now it's just wishful thinking.

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Yeah after the presser I got the feeling Johnny is gone...was it an idle threat? I dont think so. Plus if even half of what Ive read about what Johnny has done is true...screw him move on.

Hell I kind of feel like they should anyway...its a circus act with the guy.

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j/c...

A monkey wrench in the plan already!


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Did you read the first 2 comments under that tweet?? they sound right to me..

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But it sounds like when he hires someone to make them, they’re going to have a strong suggestion as to what to do with their top pick.


If Jimmy didn't learn from his last QB suggestion then we are doomed ! Don't make suggestions about players Jimmy, That's Shasi's job....

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