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Agree.
Dallas at 4 could pick a QB SF at 7 will pick a qb if one of the top 2 is still available
The Bears at 11, Eagles at 13 and Rams at 15 are all candidates to trade up for a qb.
If you like a guy take him and do't risk losing him.
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What does everyone think about trading down to the 7,8,9 slot to pick up Paxton Lynch? It seems to me that is our best option.
We may be able to get a late first rounder in return or at least a 2nd and third. If Lynch is worth taking there, then there is no point in jerking around and potentially missing him. Take him at two. That almost makes too much sense.
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I think Tyler Boyd of Pittsburgh might be the best WR in the draft. No idea why he doesn't get talked about. http://youtu.be/cZxxBbsvNyI
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I know the defense needs help, but I can live with a crap defense if we're scoring points next year and have a franchise QB.
1. Jared Goff 2. Tyler Boyd 3. Alex Collins
Offense automatically has some hope next year. Especially if Gordon can not be a moron.
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I think Tyler Boyd of Pittsburgh might be the best WR in the draft. No idea why he doesn't get talked about. http://youtu.be/cZxxBbsvNyI None of his routes are crisp and he traps everything with his body.
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I know the defense needs help, but I can live with a crap defense if we're scoring points next year and have a franchise QB. I think it was Steve who posted the final standings with defensive ranking and highlighted the teams with franchise QBs. The strong defenses rose to the top of the list, while the FQBs were scattered throughout.
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Looking at our roster, What positions are we set at and what positions need an upgrade?
Part 1 - Offense
Qb - We are okay with McCown for next season but we need to find a longterm answer. Is Goff or Lynch that answer?
Rb - Duke showed potential, there were many plays that were oh so close to being big plays that he just could't break it. Hopefully a year in an NFL weight room will fix that. Crowell shows flashes but doesn't seem to run hard all the time for some reason. If Crowell would do that and Duke gets a little stronger then we are okay here. I am not however convinced that will happen so Rb could use an upgrade as well.
Wr - We definitely need an upgrade, even if Gordon comes back and is in prime condition and top performance - and that is a 50-50 proposition at best.
TE - I think we are okay here with Barnidge and Bibbs. Dray is likely gone. We do need another guy for depth.
Oline - Center - Mack is likely gone to free agency. Are we comfortable with Erving being our starting center? RT - Schwartz is likely gone to free agency. We need to find a RT. LT - We are set with JT for a few more years as long as we don't trade him away and as long as he doesn't retire. If Thomas isn't in the plans then I would give serious consideration to Laremy Tunsil if he doesn't go #1 overall. OG - I think we are set here with Greco, Bitonio and Pastor.
K - Can use an upgrade
So on offense we are set at TE and OG
Part 2 - Defense
This is a little more difficult to evaluate because I don't know if we are going to be running a 34 or a 43.
D-line - As a group they are okay but just okay. There isn't one guy that is significantly above average. If we convert to a 43 then we are significantly lacking in defensive ends.
Lb - Who is coming back? Mingo and Kruger are likely gone. Dans by is getting old, Robertson is a FA, Kirksey is okay, Orchard is getting better but will he move to DE in a 43? Armonty Bryant was encouraging with his on field performance but he is a screwball off the field. We definitely need an upgrade here.
Cb - Can use an upgrade. Perhaps we are okay here if Ife comes back healthy. Big if.
S - Will we re-sign Gipson? Whitney is getting old and definitely looked slower this year as compared to last year. I think he is done. Poyer has looked okay, Campbell looks promising. I think we are okay here with Poyer and Campbell but definitely need depth.
Punter - Here we are set.
Pass rush/run defense - I know these are not a position but feel the need to comment seperately on them because it involves multiple positions. Pass rush is the area that I feel is the most important to improve. If we can get some pressure on the Qb our Db's will look better and we will get turnovers. I think run defense will improve with a simplified system. See ball, go get may be too simple but will still be better than what we have now. Plus this has become a passing league so while our run defense needs to get better, fixing the pass rush is more important in my mind.
After doing this I am quite depressed. I knew we had a bad roster but hadn't realized it was this bad. We are set at OG, TE and punter. Yikes.
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Here's a question:
If another team approached us about trading complete rosters, is there any team in the NFL that you would say no to?
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Tennessee's roster is really bad.
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Yes but Tennessee at least has a Qb to build around.
SF possibly?
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Here's a question:
If another team approached us about trading complete rosters, is there any team in the NFL that you would say no to? Depends on what happens to our line this free agency.
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After doing this I am quite depressed. I knew we had a bad roster but hadn't realized it was this bad. We are set at OG, TE and punter. Yikes. This is why I think trading down for more picks is a viable option in this draft. Trading down from the 2nd overall to the 8-10 range, and gaining another 2nd, 3rd, and maybe a 4th will help us fill more of these holes; as long as we do better than we have at picking players.
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After doing this I am quite depressed. I knew we had a bad roster but hadn't realized it was this bad. We are set at OG, TE and punter. Yikes. This is why I think trading down for more picks is a viable option in this draft. Trading down from the 2nd overall to the 8-10 range, and gaining another 2nd, 3rd, and maybe a 4th will help us fill more of these holes; as long as we do better than we have at picking players. Every year I am all for trading down. If Goff is determined to be less than a long term starting back, then we should trade down.
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After doing this I am quite depressed. I knew we had a bad roster but hadn't realized it was this bad. We are set at OG, TE and punter. Yikes. This is why I think trading down for more picks is a viable option in this draft. Trading down from the 2nd overall to the 8-10 range, and gaining another 2nd, 3rd, and maybe a 4th will help us fill more of these holes; as long as we do better than we have at picking players. I would want that teams 1st next year at a minimum. And agree, only if we have someone decent making the selections.
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I was trying to find a good trade down partner when working on a mock and the best I could come up with was San Fran at 7, but that likely eliminates Treadwell from our options. We could still get Myles Jack in that scenario.
Best case to me would be to tell Dallas we have an offer from San Fran, move down to 4 and get their 2nd. We could get Treadwell and still have two high 2nds. I think this could only happen if Bosa went #1.
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I think the jury is still out on Mariotta, but yeah, they have an advantage there. The rest of their roster, though.......Yikes.
Good point about San Fran. They have lost so many guys to either retirement, suspensions, free agency, injuries, etc.
We are right there w/those two teams.
LOL.......that sounds weird. I meant in a negative way, not a positive way. LOL
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Got to get that HC n Personnel guy. They will fall in love with one of the QBs - one of the big 3 or possibly a later one? Who that QB is they will not let it get out and that will determine what we will do in the draft (saying the obvious of course) Move down, move up from the 2nd to that great #22 spot please no!
Also a question do we move up to the first pick in the 2nd round rotating with the Titans?
I'm curious how the football people and number crunchers will work this one out. Shame cause Manziel has the right stuff if he wants to be a great NFL QB...shame is that we cannot put all our eggs in that basket.
Perfect world he comes back around (Manziel) starts next season from game #1 earns more value if we wish to trade him. Still have McCown to start if Manziel gets dinged...also to mentor the new kid and run that QB room.
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Also a question do we move up to the first pick in the 2nd round rotating with the Titans? Yes. I'm not sure when the pattern was established, but for the last couple of years at least, when teams have the same record, the tie-breakers establish the order for the first round, then in each ensuing round, the first team (within that tie) goes to the back of the line. Example; a,b,c in the 1st, b,c,a in the 2nd, c,a,b in the 3rd, a,b,c in the 4th. This year, Tenn and Cle will be switching spots every round.
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Watching the FCS Championship, primarily to watch Carson Wentz and Joe Haeg. Wentz is showing flashes but has shown some accuracy inconsistency. It is his first game after breaking his throwing wrist. Haeg looks very good against this level of competition. Nick DeLuca, the mike LB for NDSU is also looking impressive. I could see him playing on Sundays.
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In the last 10 NFL seasons only 4 passes have been completed that were in the air over 60 yards past the line of scrimmage. 2 by Rodgers, 1 Big Ben and 1 Mcnabb.
So the idea of a QB being needed to throw is 60+ yards is a myth.
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What's the over/under on number of heads that would explode if we picked Wentz with the #2 overall pick? http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/1/9/10741672/is-carson-wentz-the-top-qb-in-the-2016-draft-class2016 NFL Draft: Is Carson Wentz The Top QB In The 2016 Draft Class? By One.Cool.Customer  @OCC44 on Jan 9, 2016, 1:09p 157 David Purdy/Getty Images Carson Wentz may be the hottest draft commodity right now. This early in draft season, the big boards of many draftniks are still very fluid. Think about this: On January 27 last year, CBSSports had Byron Jones ranked 253rd on their big board with a 7th-round grade. Jones would end up being picked in the first round by the Cowboys. On January 8, 2014, CBSSports had Aaron Donald ranked 53rd overall. Donald would get picked 13th overall and has amassed 20 sacks as a defensive tackle in two years. Every season sees some late risers, and QB Carson Wentz may just be the hottest draft commodity right now. Some notable draft analysts are already calling him the top QB in this draft class, as the summary of tweets below shows. Matt Miller ✔@nfldraftscout Don't be surprised if Wentz ends up higher than Lynch on my board. Can't wait to meet him in Mobile and talk ball. 1:38 PM - 9 Jan 2016 Mike Mayock ✔@MikeMayock I'm saying he's in the conversation to be the 1st qb taken...if he checks all the intangible boxes- watch out ! Jeff Risdon @JeffRisdon I'd take any of the 3 in the 1st, but with the caveat I don't want them playing as rookies. Wentz most NFL ready IMO Ryanalytics @RyInCBus I like how we've gone from "there are no QBs worth drafting in the 1st round" to "Goff, Lynch and Wentz will be gone by Round 2" in a week. ld be thankful if they can get him for a fourth. Daniel Jeremiah ✔@MoveTheSticks Don't buy the narrative that Wentz is going to fly up draft boards. He's already there. Several top personnel guys have him as top QB. Dane Brugler @dpbrugler I liked Wentz's tools on film. But, so far, he's been even more impressive in person. Ball explodes off his hand. Easy mover at 6-6. Touch. For the Cowboys, there's a simple message in all of this. All things considered, the fourth overall pick is a bargain if it nets you a franchise quarterback. If they have a franchise-level grade on a quarterback, be it Carson Wentz or anybody else, they shouI'll leave the summary to Bob Sturm of the Dallas Morning News:
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http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/1/9/10739376/articleTriple Threat Match: Which Quarterback Would You Take? By Michael Sisemore  @MrSisemore on Jan 9, 2016, 10:09a 275 Troy Taormina-USA TODAY Sports The Dallas Cowboys are lucky enough to have Tony Romo as their franchise quarterback for the near future. However, at 36, the time is now to start thinking about who is taking over. Back in June, our colleague Dawn wrote a column asking the staff who their favorite player to wear the star was and my response was as follows: Tony Romo - I'm 27 years old, I remember the glory days but not as fondly as I wish I could. I have never rooted or supported a player as much as I have Tony Romo. His story, his ambitions, and his character make him my favorite of all time. I remember the days before he finally got his chance and I would never want to revisit those times. Through Quincy Carter, Drew Henson, Vinny Testaverde, and Drew Bledsoe; it was a revolving door that made it really hard to be a fan sometimes. Tony Romo embodies the underdog and amazing will power to achieve great things. Call me crazy but there is nothing in the world that would make me happier than for him to grab a Lombardi, I would even mortgage the Cowboys' future for guys like him and Jason Witten to get one ring. I still stand by my sentiments and affinity for the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, but Tom Ryle's piece on Friday got me thinking. Though this will be the topic of many discussions this offseason, he's right. The Dallas Cowboys shouldn't hesitate to take a chance on landing a quarterback of the future. If Romo stays healthy, when will they ever have the chance to do so again? The idea of just biding your time until you have to take a quarterback, then mortgaging your draft future to do so just doesn't seem smart or a likely option under Stephen Jones. It's the kinds of things that happen in Washington or Cleveland, not Dallas. Still, this upcoming draft could give the Cowboys the opportunity to groom a highly-talented quarterback of the future without feeling the pressure to play him right away. That's something to really wrap our heads around. As much as the Cowboys have needs elsewhere, it is likely that a 4-12 record isn't going to happen in the rest of Tony Romo's tenure. This is a chance to take a page out of the Green Bay Packers' book while still maintaining a competitive and contending team. With that said, this early into the process, there are three names that continue to surface when discussing this quarterback class. Let's take a look at them. Paxton Lynch, Memphis At 6' 6", 230 pounds, there is a lot to like about Lynch's frame and he certainly carries the look of an NFL quarterback. Admittedly, Lynch is not yet a polished passer and still has some work to accomplish with mechanics and footwork. However, all the quarterbacks that are coming out of college these days have some work ahead of them. What talent scouts like about Lynch is his pocket poise, mobility, and his pin-point accuracy. This season, Lynch completed 67% of his passes with 28 touchdowns to only three interceptions. Of course, there are tons of questions surrounding the competition that he faced and he certainly struggled in his bowl game against Auburn. Yet, if you watched him lead the upset against Ole Miss, he was impressive to say the least. Diving more into what available information there is on Lynch, he's been garnering two very different comparisons. CBS folks have drawn comparisons to Blake Bortles while Rick Gosselin has likened him to Ben Roethlisberger. Either of those is high praise for a kid that currently ranks sixth on Mel Kiper's big board and eighth on Todd McShay's. Again, Lynch would be a passer that would have to grow into the starting role but there is a lot to like about this prospect. Jared Goff, California At 6' 4", 210 pounds, Goff has the frame of an NFL quarterback but may be asked to put on some weight at the next level. Goff is widely considered the best quarterback in the nation, and his ability to improve over his time at Cal was impressive. Goff completed 60% of his passes as a true freshman and steadily got better over the next two seasons. In 2014, Goff utterly dismantled his number from the year before having completed 62% of his passes, with 35 touchdowns, almost 4,000 yards, and only seven interceptions. Goff doesn't have near the cannon for an arm that Lynch does, but don't confuse that for weakness. CBS scouts said he's 'downright surgical' when picking apart defenses. Where Goff outranks all passers in this class is his 'touch'. Both on intermediate and deep throws, he can orchestrate an offense in a truly masterful way. This season, Goff completed 64% passing with 43 touchdowns to 13 interceptions. In his bowl game against Air Force, Goff dropped 593 yards passing with five touchdowns. Nice way to end the year isn't it? Without gushing too hard, Texas defensive coordinator Vance Bedford said of Goff, "This is Aaron Rodgers, he's the real deal." The best part of Goff is that he is aware of his deficiencies and what he has to do to grow at the NFL-level. Carson Wentz, North Dakota State At 6' 5", 231 pounds, Wentz follows the mold of Lynch with an NFL-ready frame. He's a quarterback from a small school and has drawn comparisons to Roethlisberger and Joe Flacco. One of his best traits is his ability to extend plays and avoid sacks. Something he shares with the current Cowboys' signal caller. Wentz has good pocket awareness and presence while maintaining an innate ability to throw on the run. Wentz is also very accurate having thrown 16 touchdowns to only two interceptions before suffering a wrist injury that shelved him in the second-half of the season. However, it has been reported that Wentz will be starting for the Bison in the FCS Championship Saturday afternoon. Also more noteworthy, Wentz is scheduled to play at the Senior Bowl for the North Team, who will be coached by none other than Cowboys' head coach Jason Garrett. A quarterback himself, it will be a huge coup for Garrett and Wade Wilson to get a sneak-peek at the best senior quarterback prospect in the draft. Wentz is already ahead of the other names on this list in one category; pro-style offense. Though Carson would certainly need a redshirt year as well, he's got one of the tighter releases and his football IQ is off the charts. Perhaps his biggest area for concern is his tendency to pre-determine his passes which must be rectified. However, he undoubtedly has a mixture of good arm talent, mobility, athleticism, and field vision. All four of those traits could have him flying up the boards with a good outing in these next two opportunities. It's not lunacy to think with a bit of health that the Cowboys would be contenders in 2016 with Tony Romo at the helm. This is a true opportunity laying in front of them to finally get the heir-apparent to the Cowboy throne in two or three years. With nine picks total, there will certainly be talented players at other positions for them to fill out their roster. However, the lack of a capable quarterback after Romo's injury was the clear weakness in 2015 and it must be dealt with sooner rather than later. The Cowboys also need to always keep an eye on their future, the NFL landscape can change in an instant. After the lengthy read, who is your guy? Is it Lynch, Goff or Wentz? Perhaps it's somebody completely different. Let us know.
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