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Sorry, but this is a pet peeve of mine.
Resign - voluntarily leave a job or other position.
Re-sign - engage (a sports player) to play for a team for a further period.
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Not knowing what direction Cleveland is going. Way I see it they can do one of four options:
1. Continue building a dominate secondary similar to Seattle.
2. Continue building a dominate DL creating a multi-package hybrid front seven. Or, add a pass rusher DE creating your traditional 4-3.
3. Adding 1-2 receivers making the offensive a lot more multi dimensional.
4. Adding the traditional QB one builds a franchise around. Why choose when you could do all of them? Seattles "dominant" secondary is cornerstoned by a 4th and 5th round pick.. I have hope IFO can come back and be the steal of all draft picks. You could possibly end up with Goff/Thomas/Nassib or Treadwell/Cook.. You get your DE, Your Prototype QB, and a solid WR.. I also believe drafting CBs high is no longer cost effective. With all the offensively favored rules, id rather work on the pass rush. And then your CBs will look alot better..
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Free Agency:
Andre Smith OT
Marvin Jones WR
Re-sign:
Mitchell Schwartz OL
Tashaun Gipson FS
Travis Coons
Austin Pasztor
Craig Robertson
Draft:
1. Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Su'a Cravens, ILB, USC
3. Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
4. Scooby Wright, OLB, Arizona
5. Ron Thompson, OLB, Syracuse
6. Nelson Spruce, WR, Colorado
7. Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama
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Free Agency:
Andre Smith OT
Marvin Jones WR
Re-sign:
Mitchell Schwartz OL
Tashaun Gipson FS
Travis Coons
Austin Pasztor
Craig Robertson
Draft:
1. Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Su'a Cravens, ILB, USC
3. Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
4. Scooby Wright, OLB, Arizona
5. Ron Thompson, OLB, Syracuse
6. Nelson Spruce, WR, Colorado
7. Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama
Seems redundant to sign Smith and re-sign Schwartz. Coons needs to be upgraded
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1. Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Su'a Cravens, ILB, USC
3. Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
4. Scooby Wright, OLB, Arizona
5. Ron Thompson, OLB, Syracuse
6. Nelson Spruce, WR, Colorado
7. Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama I would poop my pants. Literally.
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Free Agency:
Andre Smith OT
Marvin Jones WR
Re-sign:
Mitchell Schwartz OL
Tashaun Gipson FS
Travis Coons
Austin Pasztor
Craig Robertson
Draft:
1. Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Su'a Cravens, ILB, USC
3. Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
4. Scooby Wright, OLB, Arizona
5. Ron Thompson, OLB, Syracuse
6. Nelson Spruce, WR, Colorado
7. Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama
Seems redundant to sign Smith and re-sign Schwartz. Coons needs to be upgraded I worry about Grecos injury. Move Schwartz inside to guard for insurance purposes. Disagree on Coons.
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Free Agency:
Andre Smith OT
Marvin Jones WR
Re-sign:
Mitchell Schwartz OL
Tashaun Gipson FS
Travis Coons
Austin Pasztor
Craig Robertson
Draft:
1. Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Su'a Cravens, ILB, USC
3. Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
4. Scooby Wright, OLB, Arizona
5. Ron Thompson, OLB, Syracuse
6. Nelson Spruce, WR, Colorado
7. Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama
Seems redundant to sign Smith and re-sign Schwartz. Coons needs to be upgraded I worry about Grecos injury. Move Schwartz inside to guard for insurance purposes. Disagree on Coons. Candyman. Sign me up with that scenario. Since we signed Hue I was looking at the Bengals roster and Jones and Smith are the 2 free agents that they have that could really impact our team. Only other thing I would do is re-sign Travis Benjamin. If Gordon can come back and stay clean. With him and Jones we would have 2 legit big receivers that would demand attention from defenses. Benji would be an absolute nightmare on the field with those 2.
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I forgot to include re-signing Travis Benjamin, my apologies.
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If you look at the cincinnatti picks from the past few years, you will notice that they very seldom reach for a player. They normally select players that fill a need and that are slotted in the area, or have dropped for one reason or another.
That could not be said in the first few years of Marvin's tenure, but their drafting has been solid of late.
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They also take players from big schools.
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Two things stood out for me in your FA/Draft post.
1. I might have missed it but what happened to Manziel oh never mind I see you cut him (maybe trade)
2. Pasztor I thought was an excellent back up/starter for the interior. We could get him cheap. He's a keeper.
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They also take players from big schools. Not trying to being condescending because I'm genuinely curious, do you mean big name school or power 5 school?
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very interesting rankings. Braxton Miller ahead of Josh Doctson. Artie Burns in the top 50 (I don't think I'd even draft him.) Fackrell in the top 30.
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Braxton is a great sleeper. I'd love to have him here. He can't run routes for crap, gets off the line weird, still too much QB in him, but he catches with his hands all the time. Perfectly frames the ball, just like it's taught. That said, certainly not a better prospect than Josh Doctson as of today.
Artie Burns is a sad story. He played pretty well over the past two years, but his mother just died recently in a car crash. He now has to take care of his two young siblings, I believe they're both younger than 8. Very sad story. I'd certainly draft him.
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Don't get me wrong. I really like Wentz. He's my #2 guy, but I don't have him ahead of Goff. Jeremiads rankings of certain Buckeyes are a little crazy.
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I absolutely love the idea of drafting Braxton!! He isn't polished as a WR, but he's big, fast, has great hands, and is a major threat once he has the ball. I think he has a better chance to be what many envision Pryor becoming.
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Don't get me wrong. I really like Wentz. He's my #2 guy, but I don't have him ahead of Goff. Jeremiads rankings of certain Buckeyes are a little crazy. He said on Twitter that he hasn't watched all the film he needs to watch yet. I rely on Jeremiah's opinion more than most others because he is an actual scout who has worked in the NFL (same goes for Bucky Brooks).
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51 NY Jets O.J. Howard, TE Alabama O.J. Howard staying in Bama... link
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Yep. I think my pick 18 also said he's staying... so there goes that.
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51 NY Jets O.J. Howard, TE Alabama O.J. Howard staying in Bama... link Alabama is going the force the ball to him soooooooooo much next season.
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clevesteve, what are you thoughts on OTs Laremy Tunsil and Ronnie Stanley? Enough talent Cleveland trades the #2 pick for either? Either two I think can make a strong argument at #2. Tough sale Cleveland takes one!
I keep looking at two CBs Jalen Ramsey and Mackenzie Alexander. Browns finally lock up the DB position. I know receiver help is needed. Defense potential fixed with two strong corners.
Sorry if you already gave an opinion, I didn't see.
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clevesteve, what are you thoughts on OTs Laremy Tunsil and Ronnie Stanley? Enough talent Cleveland trades the #2 pick for either? Either two I think can make a strong argument at #2. Tough sale Cleveland takes one!
I keep looking at two CBs Jalen Ramsey and Mackenzie Alexander. Browns finally lock up the DB position. I know receiver help is needed. Defense potential fixed with two strong corners.
Sorry if you already gave an opinion, I didn't see. I'm not Steve but Tunsil is probably the first pick off the board. San Diego is right behind us and could pick Stanley so a team might make us an offer to jump them.
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I think Tenn takes Tunsil, as well. Their defense isn't bad, but their offense is inept. MM took a lot of punishment this year. Even the Browns sacked him a lot.
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Thank You both!
I'll bet Schwartz will come costly. If the plan is not Goff, I wonder if Browns take an OT play RT and be the future LT.
I know there are better needs, but you take best available. It certainly won't be the sexy pick.
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Thank You both!
I'll bet Schwartz will come costly. If the plan is not Goff, I wonder if Browns take an OT play RT and be the future LT.
I know there are better needs, but you take best available. It certainly won't be the sexy pick. It would be a smart pick so everyone on this board would break out the pitchforks.
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Thank You both!
I'll bet Schwartz will come costly. If the plan is not Goff, I wonder if Browns take an OT play RT and be the future LT.
I know there are better needs, but you take best available. It certainly won't be the sexy pick. It would be a smart pick so everyone on this board would break out the pitchforks. I like the big ugly. String the best fronts on either side of the ball and you do no wrong. I keep looking at Rams front four and DL depth. Absolutely scary! Browns can make an equally as great OL. I don't think Browns defensive front-seven is that far off too. You elevate a few DL guys game, and you have a real multi-package group. Add that second corner opposite Haden.
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Offense heavy draft:
Round 1 Pick 10 (NYG): Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
Round 2 Pick 1: Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama
Round 2 Pick 9 (NYG): Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
Round 3 Pick 2: Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
Round 3 Pick 8 (NYG): Nick Martin, C, Notre Dame
Round 4 Pick 1: Kyler Fackrell, OLB/DE, Utah State
Round 5 Pick 2: Rashard Higgins, WR, Colorado State
Round 6 Pick 1: Devonte Fields, DE/OLB, Louisville
Round 7 Pick 2: D.J. Reader, DT, Clemson
Defensive focus draft:
Round 1 Pick 2: Joey Bosa, DE/OLB, Ohio State
Round 2 Pick 1: Noah Spence, OLB, Eastern Kentucky
Round 3 Pick 2: Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
Round 4 Pick 1: Pharoh Cooper, WR, South Carolina
Round 5 Pick 2: Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA
Round 6 Pick 1: Travis Feeney, OLB, Washington
Round 7 Pick 2: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford
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Offense heavy draft:
Round 1 Pick 10 (NYG): Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
Round 2 Pick 1: Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama
Round 2 Pick 9 (NYG): Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
Round 3 Pick 2: Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
Round 3 Pick 8 (NYG): Nick Martin, C, Notre Dame
Round 4 Pick 1: Kyler Fackrell, OLB/DE, Utah State
Round 5 Pick 2: Rashard Higgins, WR, Colorado State
Round 6 Pick 1: Devonte Fields, DE/OLB, Louisville
Round 7 Pick 2: D.J. Reader, DT, Clemson
Defensive focus draft:
Round 1 Pick 2: Joey Bosa, DE/OLB, Ohio State
Round 2 Pick 1: Noah Spence, OLB, Eastern Kentucky
Round 3 Pick 2: Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor
Round 4 Pick 1: Pharoh Cooper, WR, South Carolina
Round 5 Pick 2: Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA
Round 6 Pick 1: Travis Feeney, OLB, Washington
Round 7 Pick 2: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford I like the defensive heavy one.
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If there is not a QB that we like at pick #2, then we should trade down.
I like that that's what you did in your first scenario.
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I don't think Treadwell gets passed either Baltimore or SF.
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I don't think Treadwell gets passed either Baltimore or SF. Yeah Baltimore will probably take him. I'd rather that they reach for him than us though.
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1 (4) Carson Wentz QB, NDSU
2 (32) Noah Spence OLB, EKU
2 (34) Eli Apple CB, OSU
3 (65) Jalen Mills S, LSU
4 (96) Braxton Miller WR, OSU
5 (###) Cassanova McKinzy ILB, Auburn
6/7 O/D-Line depth
DAL gets 1 (2) and QB Johnny Manziel
CLE gets 1 (4) and 2 (34)
Pipe Dream, probably, but I randomly woke up at 4 something with this on my mind apparently.
Marvin Jones in FA, Benjamin re-signed, and Gordon reinstated leaving our WRs going into the season: Gordon, Jones, Benjamin, Hartline, Miller, and keep Pryor as a developmental guy.
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Gave it my shot.
1. QB Jared Goff
2. OLB Leonard Floyd
3. FS Darian Thompson
4. WR Kenny Lawler
5. OG Rees Odhiambo
6. DT Luther Maddy
7. FB Dan Vitale
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Hey everybody, Ballpeen took a FB ... you okay, buddy? 
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He meant G.
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Hey everybody, Ballpeen took a FB ... you okay, buddy? Had to humor you. Actually, this guy has ball skills and isn't known as simply a blocker..
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#1
1. Goff QB California
1A.Josh Gordon Cleveland Browns
2. Carl Nassib DE Penn.State
3. Michael Thomas Ohio State
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1. Laquan Treadwell (Trade Down With Cowboys Pick Up Their #4 and 2 Rd. Pick) WR Ole Miss
1A. Josh Gordon Cleveland Browns
2. Conner Cook QB Michigan State
2A. Vonn Bell Saftey Ohio State
3. Carl Nassib DE Penn State
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