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EO...with Manziel more than likely out with his bonehead antics...With McCown having 2016 as his last contract year. I think everyone knows QB needs upgraded...If Osweiler was in this year's draft he'd be an easy top 20 ...unfortunately he came out during the Luck and RG3 draft...However in those 4 years he has absorbed so much information from being behind the wings of Peyton Manning...and was never thrown to the wolves. Has a cannon for an arm, still very young (25) can see over any pocket,solid accuracy... However can improve his awareness and accuracy...I just feel he is just as good as Goff or Lunch...is only like 2-3 hears older then them, while having 4 years of NFL experience ...

This is why I believe the Broncos will not be letting Osweiler get away. Nor do I think Cousins is really available. The state of the QB position in the NFL, although officially FA, these guys will most likely be retained by their respective teams.

My plan for the off-season. First and foremost, convince the players we have who can leave to stay, specifically Mack, Schwartz, Benjamin, and Gibson. Go hard after Malik Jackson in FA. If can't land him, the next best edge rusher available. I love the idea of drafting Bosa, but if we do there seems little chance of getting our choice of QB. If we can address the pass rush in FA, the need for Bosa diminishes compared to getting a QB. Then determine which of the QB prospects is most likely to answer our need and get him with the 2nd pick.

Like I said, I love the idea of drafting Bosa, but if we do, we better be convinced Hackenberg is the answer at QB.

Hackenberg is not the answer. He deals poorly with adversity. We can't seem to avoid some kind of issue every season.

I was on the Bosa wagon for awhile, but I'm starting to lean toward Goff/Wentz. With all the talks about QBs I've been thinking about what it takes to be successful at the position, and my confidence in Johnny ever reaching his full potential is waning. If you look at Manning and Brady the one common denominator is they put in the work. Personal QB coaches in the offseasons, trying to get every detail exactly right on every play, always trying to improve- that doesn't seem to be JM.

Goff and Wentz seem to have that grinder mentality. I'll be keeping an eye on both of them during the build up to the draft.

Mock Offseason:

Estimated Cap Room with Carryover: $39.18 Million

Opt Out:
Alex Mack (+$8 Million)

Cut:
Dwayne Bowe (+$3.4 Million)
Paul Kruger (+$5.3 Million)
Randy Starks (+$3 Million)
Johnny Manziel (-$2.4 Million)
Jim Dray (+$1.8 Million)
Pierre Desir (+$0.5 Million)

Cap Space after Cuts/Opt-Out: ~$58.8 Million

Re-sign Expiring Contracts
Mitchell Schwartz: 5 years, $32 Million ($8 Million cap hit first year)
Austin Pasztor: 2nd Round RFA Qualifying Offer (~$2.5 Million)
Darrian Miller: ERFA 1 year minimum salary (no cap implications)

Let Walk - expected to sign non-minimum deals
Tashaun Gipson
Travis Benjamin
Craig Robertson

That means likely no comp picks for 2017. However, we already have Indy's 2017 6th for Billy Winn IIRC.

Cap Space After Re-signing Players: $48.3 Million


Free Agency:
RB Chris Ivory 4 years, $30 million ($9 million first year)
FB Darrel Young 3 years, $7.5 million ($3.5 million first year)
NT Damon Harrison 5 years, $50 million ($12 million first year)

Cap Space after Signings: $23.8 Million



For the Draft, I'm going to let myself dream and use CBS' rankings to say when players will be available. We trade #2 for #4, #34, and 2017 2nd round pick to Dallas, who selects Jared Goff.

Draft:
4. WR Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss
32. OLB Noah Spence, Eastern Kentucky
34. WR Josh Doctson, TCU
65. OLB Victor Ochi, Stony Brook
110. QB Dak Prescott, Miss St
137. FS Trevon Stewart, Houston
139. CB Cyrus Jones, Alabama
172. DE Anthony Zettel, Penn State
174. ILB Cassanova McKinzy, Auburn
180. WR Nelson Spruce, Colorado
221. ILB Beniquez Brown, Miss St


Final Projected 53-man Roster

Offense: 24
QB: McCown, Prescott, Davis
RB: Ivory, Crowell, Johnson
FB: Young
WX: Gordon, Doctson
WZ: Treadwell, Hartline
WY: Hawkins, Spruce
TE: Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer
LT: Thomas, Miller
LG: Bitonio, Pasztor
C: Erving, UDFA (Smothers/Huettel)
RG: Greco
RT: Schwartz

Defense: 25
NT: Harrison, Shelton
3T: Hughes, Zettel
5T: D. Bryant, Cooper
SB: A. Bryant, Orchard
TB: Dansby, McKinzy
MB: Kirksey, Brown
WB: Spence, Ochi
Ni: Mingo
OC: Haden, T. Williams, Jones, Gilbert
IC: K. Williams, IEO
FS: Stewart, Poyer
SS: Whitner, Campbell

Special Teams: 4
K: UDFA (Oberkrom)
P: Lee
LS: Hughlett
ST: Moore


Rookie Pool Estimate: $8 Million

Final Projected Cap Space: $15.8 Million

Future Draft Picks Owned:
2017 DAL 2nd
2017 IND 6th

If we had that draft, I'd dance a jig.

FYI from the looks of Schwartz's twitter convos with Banner lately, he seems pretty focused on money. I'm betting he wants to be the highest paid RT and about 7 mil a year. I'm not sure if I'd want to pay that.

I haven't looked at kickers at all. Is Oberkrom any good?

Yeah I think I had him at about $6.5 million. If I had to up that to 5 / $35 then done deal.

I like Oberkrom the past couple seasons. He's got good range. It gets pretty windy in DFW, too.

Isn't the Florida State kicker really good?

Yes. But I feel like this is a setup, lol. CBS has him rated at #65 overall. I mocked the Steelers taking him in the third.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2016/K

Treadwell, Prescott, AND Doctson?

You basically just ruined the real NFL Draft for me.. thanks alot..

Also, as it relates to Dak..

Do you think there's a chance he could start right away?

I thin it depends more on the philosophy of the team/coach than on Dak. On our team, I would have to look more at hues history to answer. My guess is he wouldnt.

Looks good Steve. I'd be very happy with Dak.

You think he will last to the 4th round? I might have to reach and take him in the 3rd.

I'm really not sure. I feel like that's a stretch and the only excuse I had for myself was that CBS has him ranked a few picks lower than that. Truthfully I think it's more likely he goes in the second than the fourth. But you never know I guess. If we were able to get that trade and those first three picks in Id be happy to take Prescott at 65 and hope Ochi, CB Sanchez, or ILB Wright made it to that 100 pick.

I would also be ok with Bosa, Doctson/Thomas, and Dak..

I think 2nd too, but until the combine and Pro Days who knows.

Kind of my thinking. I think Cams success will elevate Dak, deserved or not. They are pretty similar in style. Dak might go 2nd round. Heck, a good showing at the Combine and in private workouts, who knows how high he might go?

I have my eye on him because I have always liked his game.

Are you really saying you want them to spend a 1st or 2nd round pick on another olineman?

Are we EVER allowed to draft a WR?

Okay, I'll ask: Why would we spend $50 mil on a NT when we just drafted DS? Don't you think he's gonna come along?

I was going to ask if here were any talks about what schemes were ganna run.. but screw that..

Can we just put our best players on the field, and let them do what theyre good at? Is that too much to ask?

As long as I never see our best pass rusher covering a slot WR in bump and run.. or 3-4 players subbing out every single play (Sup Shurmur) because of "packages", I'll be somewhat content.

Basically because Big Snacks is really good and our run defense has not been. And he's available.

I will give you credit, arguing FOR OL is a tough position.

The better they are, the less people "notice them"

Do I think adding Gordon to the current crop is a respectable WR Corp? Yes, add a solid FA WR and you have better than average.

But if we are at a pick, and deem a WR worth it, I'm STILL going to take him..

I think we have enough needs, that we can pick whomever the best player available is and it'll work out.. barring the whole QB at 2 thing obviously.

Careful, if you go BPA, it's probably an o-lineman.

Man, if you draft "BPA" you're going to draft 7 running backs every year. BPA is a lie.

Better than what? We have 5 top 40 OL picks on the roster today.

But two MIGHT leave, and one COULD be gone in like 3 YEARS..

So that means we should draft 8 OL this year.. just in case.

Oh I forgot someone might get hurt.. make that 10 OL.

I'll address the rest later, but you must have missed this part of my mock offseason, when the only three players from our team I re-signed were OL, letting Travis Benjamin walk.

a little more info...

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2016/1/13/10765484/pff-damon-harrison-best-run-defender-in-nfl

I was urging for us to try to sign him to an offer sheet last season when he was a restricted free agent given a 2nd round tender. We would have given up our 2nd rounder to the Jets to get him, but we wouldn't have had to spend #12 on Danny Shelton. #12 could have been Devante Parker, who is turning into a very nice receiver for the Dolphins. Oh well.

Okay point made. But didn't Parker have attitude issues, Him and JM would have been a nightmare along with Gilbert.

This is also an exercise in futility when arguments are made based on 2 guys leaving the team. One which has 3 years left on his contract and takes a chance of losing money if he opts out of it.

We could just as easily have this line intact when the draft takes place as some of you arguing being down 2 guys...

Even if we lose one, we have a first round draft pick from 2015 that now has a year under his belt and should see more playing time in 2016. He didn't fair well in 2015, but that was at the guard position in which he not only had never played, but admittedly had never practiced.

Not ready to write off Erving after a couple of games playing at a position he had no business playing.

Actually, it was his mom.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...nyah-nyah-nyah/



had another article...

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/05/devante_parkers_mom_i_knew_i_d.html

Free agency within the team: I'm ok with retaining Benji, Schwartz, and Gipson as long as they are all team-friendly deals. I don't really feel like we absolutely have to bring any of these guys back. None are elite at their position. The Browns can absolutely take a hard stance with the retaining guys portion of the offseason.

Free agency outside our team: I wonder if Mohamed Sanu is an option considering Jackson's connection to the Bengals. He's 27, unrestricted, and would be a nice insurance policy on not being able to score exactly what you want in FA, as well as deciding on the future of Josh Gordon. Overall this team will probably pretty quiet on this front. I don't think you really win by winning in FA.

I think with the draft, you have to come away with a QB at 2 or 32. I don't think you can go beyond that and start talking about guys like Cardale Jones, who are 2-3 year projects. Would be unhealthy all around. The Browns really need one of these quarterbacks who is ready to start day 1, much like Teddy, Carr, Bortles, etc.. Sounds like that is clearly defined as Goff, Wentz, and Lynch. Maybe Cook, but I think there is a gray area with him.

I love Joey Bosa at 2. Howeer, if the scouts and some of this new anylytics breakdowns comes out high on Goff or one of these other QB's, I think you have no choice. It's our top need, and it will always be until we finally figure it out..

I love Will Fuller from ND. I don't think he lasts to round 3, but that dude should be able to play at the NFL level.

Denver has 5 players listed in the top 50 FA per NLFTradeRumor.com. They are probably going to pay dearly to keep Von Miller and Brock Osweiler, leaving Malik Jackson and Danny Trevathan as possibly available. I would really like to see us make a concerted run at Jackson and or Trevathan. Wilkerson of the Jets is also listed, but I suspect they will resign him. Jackson may be the best DE available in FA and would mitigate not taking Bosa at #2 if QB is the route they want to take.

They can cut a lot to save money. Also Osweiler did not play too great. Probably going to get a deal structured like Kap and Dalton's, but a much lower price tag. I think they can retain a lot. But I'd love to make a run at anyone on their defense if we can.