DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Josh Gordon files application for reinstatement from league suspension

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Thank you for reminding me about that. I forgot to mention that Gordon has taken his punishment this past year. No need to keep piling on a guy that has done his time. Not saying I'd hinge the team's success on him, though.

I don't quite remember, but werent there inconsistencies on how Gordon's punishment was handed down? I remember he tested over the pot limit by a that's ball hair, and while that was being argued out the league revamped their drug policy. Welker was going through something similar, and his punishment was reduced waaaay down, while Gordon's was only dropped by 2 games. Welker was caught doing molly, as well.

Josh Gordon was suspended when the 2014 season started and that's the way he'll end it. The Cleveland Browns announced on Saturday that Gordon's been suspended for the team's regular season finale against Baltimore.

Here's five things you need to know.

1. The suspension was handed down by the Browns, not the NFL. When Gordon sat out the first 10 games of the 2014 season, that was an NFL mandated suspension. This time around, the Browns made the decision. Gordon is officially suspended for violating an unspecified team rule.

2. So what was that unspecified team rule? According to the Baltimore Sun, Gordon missed the team's walk-through on Saturday. ESPN.com notes that the team had trouble locating Gordon on Saturday morning. If you're already on thin ice, you can't just go missing like that, something that you'd think Gordon would already be aware of.

3. Gordon's roster spot will be filled by wide receiver Phil Bates. The undrafted free agent spent the first two seasons of his career in Seattle (2012-13), where he saw action in one game. Bates signed with the Browns in October and was on Cleveland's practice squad until Saturday when he was promoted to the active roster after Gordon was suspended.

4. The Browns offense has actually been better this season without Gordon. During his 10-game suspension, the Browns went 6-4 and averaged 356.1 yards of offense per game, a number that would rank 13th in the NFL if the Browns had done it over 15 weeks.

With Gordon in the lineup, the Browns have gone 1-4 and averaged only 274.6 yards of offense per game. If the Browns had averaged that over the entire 2014 season, they would rank dead last in the NFL, an honor that currently belongs to the Raiders, who have averaged 287.7 yards per game this season.

5. The suspension might only be one game, but it's going to have a profound effect on Gordon's future. According to the Baltimore Sun, one of the reasons Gordon was suspended was so he couldn't accrue a season toward free agency.


If that's why the Browns suspended Gordon, the NFLPA might have a problem.

So what does a one-game suspension have to do with Gordon's free agency status?

According to the Collective Bargaining Agreement, "a player shall receive one Accrued Season for each season during which he was on, or should have been on, full pay status for a total of six or more regular season games."

Since Gordon won't be playing in Week 17, he'll only have full pay status for five games instead of the six he needs. That means that when his contract expires after the 2015 season, he'll only have three accrued seasons toward free agency and therefore he'll be a restricted free agent. Because he'll be a restricted free agent, the Browns will have the rights to match any offer Gordon is given following the 2015 season.

If Gordon had accrued a season toward free agency in 2014, he'd have four accrued seasons and he'd be an unrestricted free agent after 2015. As an unrestricted free agent, Gordon would have been able to sign with anyone without worrying that Cleveland might match the offer.

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so what happen to appeal?

I want Swish next to me

too many Freudian slips in this thread

A wasted talent'

"Tender him high"

oh. ok. went brain dead lol

I wish him nothing but success, in a Browns uniform.

And as a fan, I'm happy and proud of the things you have done to help yourself become a better Athlete and person.

All he's done has let us down. Not sure how you could get excited about this.

I will, though, have to eat a little crow because I proclaimed that he would have yet another hiccup and wouldn't even make it to have the "chance" to apply for reinstated. I will give him that, for sure...

I might get flamed for this.....



I much rather have Gordon screw up again on this team, than be a HOF WR somewhere else, especially if he goes to a division rival.

I keep thinking about his poor performance and weak effort level (IMO) when he returned for 5 games in 2014. We were still in playoff contention when he came back and he played like he didn't really care. I'm tempted to offer him and Billy to Dallas for a #2 this year or a #1 next year. If he stays here he has to prove himself all over again, in my mind.

I'm just wondering if the application was written on a rolling paper.

It would have to be one from the Cheech and Chong Big Bamboo album.

Either Raw rolling papers, or swisher sweets.

dude.. You just don't get it.. I have never seen anyone that just doesn't seem to ever get it like you... As mentioned by others.. If Johnny had half the abilities of Gordon he also would get the chances.. Gordon led the league in receiving without a real QB that year.. That's why he's getting chances

Dude..........I do get it. You talking smack doesn't change that. Too many hypocrites on here.

again. You don't get it.. JM. AND JG. Can not be compared. Two different types of player playing two different positions.. JM has proved nothing where JG shows that he might be something.. If we cut JM there would be very little interest in him around the league.. If we cut JG. There would be 31 teams breaking their necks to sign him... What's that tell you? We're not cutting either one. Just making an example.. That right there explain what you simply can't get.. Gordon is costing us nothing. For that matter I wouldn't get rid of JM unless someone made it worth our while.. I'd make him the 3rd QB till he proved he deserves better

You saying I don't get it doesn't make it so. You guys are hypocrites.

Oh.......btw....your "impressive physical stature" isn't scaring me. LOL

Oh goodie, meathead is filing for reinstatement. We're saved! Captain braindead is back! *snicker*

Here's hoping he blows the drug test and this is the last we ever hear of the bum.

Meathead. Dead from the neck up. A most fitting description.

Jimmy Johnson: "Hit me in the head with a hammer the next time I want to draft a dumb guy,"

"I don't believe in football intelligence and being dumb off the field," he said. "If he's dumb off the field, he's going to make dumb problems off the field and that's going to be just as big a problem as being dumb on the field."

That was his thoughts on just coaching a "dumb guy". Meathead has proven he's way more stupid that just being "dumb". He is epically stupid. A lack of intellect without compare. We should run away from meathead far and fast.

Didn't Jimmy Johnson draft a ton of guys that were idiots off the field? Seems like he didn't follow his own advice.

idiot on the field too.

So because he had ONE good season it doesn't matter that he gets suspended again, and again..... and yet again.... and once more with feeling, and he hasn't had enough yet, and again? This is a guy that got busted for DUI with drugs in the car while awaiting an appeal hearing FOR a suspension.....

Sure, lets bet the franchise on meathead. We don't need to draft a stud WR, we ALREADY HAVE ONE. Right? Lets depend on him. He's certainly EARNED our trust. Right? lmao

...........but the same people wanna cut JM because of rumors.

No one is saying that.

And he leared that lesson. That statement was made on his boat talking with Belichick. Belichick goes down there every year for a couple weeks to fish.

SpiritBro blew someone's post out of proportion? Shocker.

Got it.

So he made that statement after he knew he had no chance of ever coaching again?

I don't want to cut him because of rumors. I want to cut him because he's 5'11 1/2" (His own words) BARELY 200 pounds and he runs a lot. HE said he has real problems seeing in the pocket. So Vers, what good is a running QB when he blows a wheel? What good is RG3 right now? I want to cut Johnny because the pick was a mistake. I want to cut Johnny because he's been with us two seasons and been HURT in two seasons. I want to cut Johnny because he's a HUGE distraction. Mostly I want to cut Johnny because he's stupid. Not as stupid as meathead. But he's vying for that distinction.

Dilbert, Johnny, and Meathead. Birds of a feather. I will not cry when they are ALL gone.

Come on bro face it. Your as disgusted as everybody else with Josh's screw ups, BUT your as excited as all get out about his potential if he keeps his head on straight.

Sure. So I guess that means it's not true? So fine. Let's draft as many idiots as we possibly can. Hell, lets let meathead be the PATTERN for the kind of players we want here. I'm sure you'll love the results.

I will admit that. No problem.

I also admit that I hope both JG and JM get the crap together. I wanna win one before I die.

Spirit bro do you realize that IF the Browns win in the next few years you will be trying to celebrate all alone? I hope your not, but if everybody turns their back on yOu its your own fault bro

How do you know what his potential is? He hasn't played a full season in YEARS. Suspended for two games then had his big season, suspended for an entire season, reduced and had six games available but got himself suspended by the team for the final game, then got another year's suspension immediately following his team suspension. Johnny probably handed him the BEER. Why would we keep ANY of these losers?

Meathead has played 5 games since 2013 and he looked like crap those 5 games. He is WAY out of football shape. Aside from the off field stupidity, meathead may never get back football wise.....

Who said that?

Whom are you referring to? I have steadfast friends that I trust with my life. I have family I can always count on.

JC

The Bengals are an organization made up of meatheads, but I'm constantly told we have to model our organization after them. I'm confused.

Nobody, in fact many are saying the exact opposite. I said we shouldn't depend on him. So draft that stud WR if that's what the coach needs. And if Josh does miraculously keep his head out of his butt, then you have 2 studs.

Apparently you're not allowed to look at both sides of the issue.

I really hope for all of our sakes that we do

Because I have seen it with my own eyes, and heard if from guys who were around him in practice, and during games. Will he ever give the NFL his all for ten more years, or blow it all ????? I hope he finally gets it, but I wouldn't bet my house on it

That is the perfect sentiment

The Browns team that wins a Super Bowl will have all pros, retreads, washouts, prima-donnas, scrappy special team contributors, and will include some guys we may have personally hated when they were drafted or signed in free agency

I'll support them all