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Free-agent forecast: 20 players ranging from big risks to big winners

With two games left on the NFL slate and many teams out of the postseason mix, front offices around the league are preparing the blowtorches for roster alterations. Scouting reports are piling up from pro personnel men, capologists are considering the impact of extensions or contract restructures, and coaches are mulling which holes require top priority heading into the offseason.

Before long, free-agent boards will fill up with potential offseason acquisitions, and a plan of attack will be drawn up. Without a doubt, 2016 could be an interesting class. At least, that's the way it looks before the franchise tags and long-term deals trickle in. Chances are many of the most talented players on the current free-agent lists will never see the open market. But heading into late December, it's worth examining some of the players who are slated to be shopped around in March.

Here are 20 intriguing talents still unsigned beyond 2015 …

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10 Big Names, 10 Big Risks

Greg Hardy, DE, Dallas Cowboys: Let's start with the talent and how it has played out this season. Hardy began his season hot as a pass rusher but has been a better run-defender the past few weeks. He is still getting pressures and drawing plenty of attention from offenses, but Hardy was a bigger factor when Dallas was still fighting for something. That can be said about many NFL players. From a talent standpoint, he's still an elite player. The flipside of that is the attitude and distraction factors, along with a domestic violence record that will stick with him as long as he is in the spotlight. He says tone-deaf things, and there have been reports of him being late to team meetings. He is the same mixed bag he was when Dallas gave him his one-year "show me" deal. Any long-term deal figures to be heavily incentive-laden and easy to exit. And while Dallas hasn't said much about a new contract of late, the Cowboys have the least risk in signing him again, as they've already absorbed the public criticism that comes with Hardy.

Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, New York Giants: Despite having one good hand at this stage, Pierre-Paul is still rating high on the pass rush scale, largely because of his quarterback hurries (Pro Football Focus counts 29), which have been among the league's best during his first six weeks. He has, however, five quarterback hits and only one sack in that same span, which suggests he is having trouble finishing off those pressures. He also has had some issues wrapping on tackles versus the run. Teams will have to determine if these problems are just Pierre-Paul shaking off rust or if his right hand injury will permanently hinder his ability to win close engagements. The remainder of the season could still impact future negotiations, so this one is tricky.

Kirk Cousins, QB, Washington Redskins: He's a starting quarterback hitting free agency at 27. The Redskins will surely use the franchise tag on him if they can't work out a long-term deal. That tag will cost at least $18.4 million next season (final figures aren't settled). But Cousins' realized value may depend partially on the remainder of the season (think: playoff performance) and how much the Redskins believe in him. It's unclear how many teams would see Cousins as a $100 million quarterback right now. But that doesn't mean the Redskins don't. And if Cousins continues his current hot streak into the postseason, outside opinions will change.

Sam Bradford, QB, Philadelphia Eagles: This might be the most entertaining free-agent dance in the offseason, largely because nobody seems to know what Bradford is worth – including the Eagles. Perhaps with a larger sample size in Philadelphia, the picture would be clearer. Instead, the consistency of Bradford's health and ability to perform at the highest levels in coach Chip Kelly's offense remain murky. Here's what executives do know: in two stops, six years and five seasons as a starting quarterback, Bradford hasn't lived up to expectations. That tends to stunt a player in free agency.

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Brock Osweiler, QB, Denver Broncos: The fact that Osweiler is a free agent makes it all the more likely that Peyton Manning is 100 percent done in Denver. There's no way the Broncos let Osweiler get to the market, and they can't afford to pay both. Like Cousins, Osweiler has arguably shown enough to be given the nod as a still-growing starter. His body of work is even more limited than Cousins, but he's also younger (he turned 25 in November) and hasn't exposed as much of his flaws up to this point. And as we all know, there are a lot of NFL teams that give big contracts to prototype quarterbacks who have yet to show all their flaws. Osweiler is a risk, but he's one that someone would pay. Highly unlikely anyone ever gets the chance … but Denver will still be taking on the risk by paying him.

Alshon Jeffery, WR, Chicago Bears: Given his talent, he will be a highly sought skill-position player on the market. But his injuries this year, particularly the hamstring, may give some teams pause. And there have been a litany of wideouts who have failed to live up to previous billing after signing new deals in free agency. That said, Jeffery's elite combination of size and downfield playmaking ability (and being on the market at 26) will surely draw a No. 1 wideout contract. That's an average starting point of $11 million these days.

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Doug Martin, RB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Anyone who has followed Martin knows his story: a rookie explosion … two seasons of injury and disappointment … and a (healthy) fantastic flourish in 2015. At his best, he's arguably a top-five running back. But at a position where even the most talented have durability issues, injuries dampen contract offers. That's particularly true with the amount of platooning that happens in backfields nowadays. There's no doubt Martin has the talent, but anyone who signs him better have a respectable No. 2 behind him.

Richie Incognito, OG, Buffalo Bills: Start with the downside. Incognito will be 33 this offseason and has 116 games of NFL mileage. How much gas is still in the tank? He also has the whole bullying affair in his past, although he has met that ordeal and answered questions head-on for a while now. The upside is the Bills took a chance on Incognito this season and he rewarded them with arguably the best football of his career. Despite a few bumps in the road, he has been one of the best guards in the NFL while giving the Bills some toughness on their line. Like Greg Hardy in Dallas, the Bills have the best upside in signing Incognito, as they've already jumped through the public relations hoops. But he could still be a valuable veteran addition elsewhere.

Derrick Johnson, ILB, Kansas City Chiefs: From an off-field standpoint, Johnson poses zero risk. His big factors are age (he turned 33 in November) and injury. A large part of his game is his ability to cover ground quickly, so there is some question about how much longer that lasts. Especially after suffering a torn Achilles in 2014. But Johnson experienced a stunning rebound from that injury, and has easily been one of the best inside linebackers in the NFL this season. His value would seem to be highest in Kansas City, where he's a beloved player and leader on defense. If there is another team out there running a 3-4 defense and making a Super Bowl push with some veteran talent, Johnson would be attractive.

Russell Okung, OT, Seattle Seahawks: Okung's age (28) and 2012 Pro Bowl nod make him attractive. He's a brand name at tackle who has won a Super Bowl and at the end of 2012 looked like he'd develop into one of the consistently elite players at his position. In reality, he's never been the same since missing games in 2013 with a toe injury. Much of his career since returning has been up and down at best. He had penalty issues and failed to dominate opponents the way franchise left tackles are expected to. He doesn't give up a ton of sacks, but he struggles at times in both pass and run blocking. Maybe a team gives him a big long-term deal and he rebounds as a pass blocker. Okung is representing himself in negotiations, and likely will be seeking elite money. If he gets it, someone will have been putting a lot of faith in Okung rebounding.

Five Bank Breakers

Von Miller, OLB, Denver Broncos: Hands-down one of top three pass rushing outside linebackers in the NFL. His sack numbers are down and penalties are up this season, but he's been a game-changer since he stepping on an NFL field.

Josh Norman, CB, Carolina Panthers: One of the best cover corners in the NFL (despite what Atlanta Falcons wideout Roddy White says) who is adequate in run support. He'll be paid like one of the best defensive players in the league.

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Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, New York Jets: A dominant defensive end who has a career-high 12 sacks in 14 games, Wilkerson will land one of the biggest deals in free agency this offseason. He's not J.J. Watt, but he's on that very next (and still elite) level of 3-4 pass rushers who can also play the run at a high level.

Eric Berry, FS, Kansas City Chiefs: He bounced back from his 2014 bout with cancer to become one of the best coverage safeties in the NFL. Has the versatility to play both safety spots, but moving to free safety is going to make him more attractive and well compensated.

Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami Dolphins: He turns 26 in October and has pass rushing skills that are going to land him a massive deal. Has some penalty issues, but his numbers recorded by Pro Football Focus have been All-Pro caliber the last six weeks (six sacks, 20 quarterback hits, 22 quarterback pressures).

Five Lesser-Knowns Who Will Cash In

Cordy Glenn, OT, Buffalo Bills: Despite some growing pains here and there, Glenn has ranked among the best offensive tackles in football and just turned 26 in September. He can block in both the pass and run capably, and is just entering his prime. These guys don't hit the market, so he's getting paid a lot – either via franchise tag or a long-term deal.

Malik Jackson, DE, Denver Broncos: He turns 26 in January and is another 3-4 defensive end who is adept at putting heat on quarterbacks while capably handling the run. He is getting better and is playing some of the best football of his career the past three games.

Derek Wolfe, DE, Denver Broncos: Like his defensive line teammate and fellow free agent Malik Jackson, Wolfe also turns 26 in a few months. Also like Jackson, he's one of the stronger young 3-4 defensive ends in the league. Unlike Jackson, Wolfe's strength is against the run, while he is still improving as a pass rusher.

Mitchell Schwartz, OT, Cleveland Browns: At 26, he's a right tackle just hitting his prime and has played respectably against some of the NFL's best pass rushers this season. Browns fans may not know that they have a good starting right tackle, but other NFL executives certainly do. If Cleveland doesn't pay him, someone else will.

Trumaine Johnson, CB, St. Louis Rams: He turns 26 on New Year's Day, has great length (6-foot-2) and is emerging as a very good cover cornerback. He also has better upside than hyped teammate Janoris Jenkins. You don't see many young, tall, rangy cover corners hit free agency as they are coming into their own. When they do, they cost a mint.


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I'd like to point this out...

Mitchell Schwartz, OT, Cleveland Browns: At 26, he's a right tackle just hitting his prime and has played respectably against some of the NFL's best pass rushers this season. Browns fans may not know that they have a good starting right tackle, but other NFL executives certainly do. If Cleveland doesn't pay him, someone else will.


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Would love to get Malik Jackson or Wolfe, they're the only realistic names I see on their.

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Browns fans may not know that they have a good starting right tackle


This is definitely true.


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Brock Osweiler, QB, Denver Broncos: The fact that Osweiler is a free agent makes it all the more likely that Peyton Manning is 100 percent done in Denver. There's no way the Broncos let Osweiler get to the market, and they can't afford to pay both.


Then Peyton Manning could be available. Mmmmm


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Derrick Johnson, Von Miller, Eric Berry, & Josh Norman... and of course we need to re-sign Schwartz.

I've said it for a long time now: Schwartz's biggest problem in terms of local perception is that he isn't Joe Thomas. Because of that, people around here don't really realize just what we've got.


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and of course we need to re-sign Schwartz.


A no brainier considering Mack will most likely be gone. We'll need to add another stud and some depth again as well. If not could be a long season in 2016 also.


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Did I miss it or did they just forget about Alex Mack?

Dude is one of the best centers in the game and will command big dollars and is worth it.

He should be at the top or close to it, of that list.

Sure hope we can keep him.


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Isn't he only a free agent if he opts out?
Unless he does that, he isn't a free agent... so, currently, he is not going to be.


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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Norman is going to get silly money.

If we will pay a lot for something I'm hoping for Wilkerson...that is one player that can change the entire D.

I would like to sign Schwartz but I got a feeling he will turn our offer down and test FA Market. He won't be worth the JOE T money that his agent is going to look for.

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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Did I miss it or did they just forget about Alex Mack?

Dude is one of the best centers in the game and will command big dollars and is worth it.

He should be at the top or close to it, of that list.

Sure hope we can keep him.


I don't think Alex is officially a free-agent. He has the right at the end-of-season to void his contract with the Browns, thus, becoming a free-agent.

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Well then, that pretty much makes him officially a free agent, unless he chooses not to be.


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Well then, that pretty much makes him officially a free agent, unless he chooses not to be.


wonder if he can shop himself before he cuts ties with the browns? test the market kinda thing....


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Technically, no.

No doubt that his agent is taking back channels to test the waters, however.

BUT - him just making his 3rd Pro Bowl means that anyone wanting to sign him will have to shell out BIG to get him.


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I hadn't thought of that and it is a good question. There could be something in the contract stating he can't opt-out and then try to re-sign, say, for more money.

Maybe he can, but that could get sticky.


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Well then, that pretty much makes him officially a free agent, unless he chooses not to be.


wonder if he can shop himself before he cuts ties with the browns? test the market kinda thing....

He is a three time PB. I don't think he'll have an issue getting signed elsewhere. If he was coming off his injury, maybe, but playing a whole season...he'll get paid well.

I personally think if Haslam blows it up. Haslam announces all three Pettine/Farmer/Mack are no longer a Cleveland Brown. You may see two other names included Schwartz and Gipson.

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RTs don't get nearly the money LTs do. His agent should know that. Because of that giant discrepancy, there is no way we franchise tag him either.

If we WANTS out, he'll get his opportunity. Not sure we transition tag him either.


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Well then, that pretty much makes him officially a free agent, unless he chooses not to be.


I'm pretty sure this quote is a preview to what he chooses to do....

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Isn't he only a free agent if he opts out?
Unless he does that, he isn't a free agent... so, currently, he is not going to be.


Of course,, I forgot he needed to opt out. I guess to me it was a foregone conclusion that he would leave or at least explore it.


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Isn't he only a free agent if he opts out?
Unless he does that, he isn't a free agent... so, currently, he is not going to be.


Of course,, I forgot he needed to opt out. I guess to me it was a foregone conclusion that he would leave or at least explore it.


I think it's beyond safe to say, assume and etc he indeed will opt out. Him going to the Pro Bowl means he'll still be able to demand the same kinda money.

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Isn't he only a free agent if he opts out?
Unless he does that, he isn't a free agent... so, currently, he is not going to be.


Of course,, I forgot he needed to opt out. I guess to me it was a foregone conclusion that he would leave or at least explore it.


I think it's beyond safe to say, assume and etc he indeed will opt out. Him going to the Pro Bowl means he'll still be able to demand the same kinda money.


And as we've seen with many players, the first year back from a broken bone, they aren't the same as prior to the break.. But the second year back, generally, they are 100% OK.

He'll be worth a ton of money next year and I hope whoever is in charge makes it impossible for him to reject our offer.


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A few thoughts:

HaHa...............all the Kirk Cousins' haters [and RGII lovers] on here are probably squirming. The guy has had a very good year and is going to get paid. I freaking love it! grin

--Von Miller is the best player on the list, but he won't be available.

--If we go after Hardy........I will disown this team.

--I hope we keep Schwartz. I don't think he is as good as the guys on this board say he is, but he is functional and it sucks when you have a weak link on the OL. Hi Cam.

--If we let Schwartz go, Cordy Glenn would be a bit of an upgrade, but he will probably get big money.

--M. Jackson is intriguing. He can get after the qb a bit. We are in desperate need of pass rushers.

--If Farmer stays, Gipson is toast. E. Berry would be a good alternative. I like his game.

--I haven't seen enough of Vernon. I watch a lot of games, but I rarely watch Miami. I gotta make a point of watching him.

--Trumaine Johnson is probably my number one guy. Miller would be, but that ain't happening. Johnson is a very good corner who is only going to get better.

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I would give Von Miller whatever he wants..

Even if he's half the player here that hes been, hes still a game changer.

I am also interested in Jeffery, but hes the prototypical WR that signs on his second team and slowly disappears... but who knowns.. He'd be a great fit with Johnny..


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Von Miller is going to get franchised. He is not even worth discussing.

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Alshon Jeffery is exactly the type of WR we need. Tall, good speed, goes up high, huge red zone threat. I agree w/you that he almost seems like the kind of guy who gets a huge second contract and then never lives up to that kind of money due to injuries, concussions, attitude, etc. I have no proof of that, but I was thinking the same thing as you were when I first saw his name on the list.

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If we don't spend money on GOOD FAs this year.. I dont know what the point in all thos cap room is..

Its not like we have a ton of big money guys we need to resign..


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If we don't spend money on GOOD FAs this year.. I dont know what the point in all thos cap room is..

Its not like we have a ton of big money guys we need to resign..


I'm just glad teams get penalized for being cheap now. Time to pony up!

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If we don't spend money on GOOD FAs this year.. I dont know what the point in all thos cap room is..

Its not like we have a ton of big money guys we need to resign..


I'm just glad teams get penalized for being cheap now. Time to pony up!


The penalty is a farce. They just have to give the NFLPA the difference between the salary floor and their actual salary. Not a huge penalty at all.

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Weddle was going to leave no matter what. But the low class of the Chargers needs to be addressed.

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was Forte on the list? he's all but gone this year from Chicago


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http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...cc-f796a86be4dd

We signed Terrell Watson. He is a running back who was on the Bengals practice squad for all of 2015.

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Schwartz took a pounding on this board when he first started. It's been nice seeing him make progress over time. The last player who showed me the same type of learning curve was Buster Skrine (whom I wanted to keep). I hope this regime gives serious thought to keeping Mitchell.

One of the cornerstones of a winning football culture is the concept of "build through the draft/grow your own." When a franchise spends its own time, money and expertise on developing a player from scratch, they would be well advised to keep those assets right where they were made.

Jabaal Sheard
T J Ward
Ahtyba Rubin
Buster Skrine
Shawn Lauvao


... all home-grown. All good enough to play significant time. All playing on better teams than the one they left.
We've done right by guys like Joe T, Joe Haden and (to a degree) Alex Mack, but we've also let some talent walk. Talent that we missed this year.

I'd like to see MS re-signed. Honor your players for their commitment and growth. Honor your own efforts to draft and develop a player by keeping them here at home.

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Lavaman had to go. He was horrid. Made Schwartz play bad. The rest, you're spot on though.

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The perception on Schwartz has been interesting.

There have been people who have trashed him.

There have been people that overrated him.

There have been people who believe he is a solid player rather than a terrible or great player. Those people are often labeled "haters." smirk

My opinion of Schwartz is that he is a pretty good player. He is very good at seal blocking. Once he gets to a guy, he generally can wall him off in the running game. His technique has really improved in regards to keeping his chest over his thighs in pass protection. The negatives are that he is a bit slow out of his stance and struggles w/speed rushers that go wide. He also gets confused on some of his line reads and blocks the wrong guy.

I think the bottom line is that you can win w/a guy like him and the Browns should keep him. He's a pretty good player.

I also think they really need try and talk Mack into staying. People underrate him on this board. It amazes me.

Another guy we need to keep is Gipson. We'll be talking about him like the way we are Sheard if the Browns let him walk.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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We signed Terrell Watson. He is a running back who was on the Bengals practice squad for all of 2015.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
The perception on Schwartz has been interesting.

There have been people who have trashed him.

There have been people that overrated him.

There have been people who believe he is a solid player rather than a terrible or great player. Those people are often labeled "haters." smirk

My opinion of Schwartz is that he is a pretty good player. He is very good at seal blocking. Once he gets to a guy, he generally can wall him off in the running game. His technique has really improved in regards to keeping his chest over his thighs in pass protection. The negatives are that he is a bit slow out of his stance and struggles w/speed rushers that go wide. He also gets confused on some of his line reads and blocks the wrong guy.

I think the bottom line is that you can win w/a guy like him and the Browns should keep him. He's a pretty good player.

I also think they really need try and talk Mack into staying. People underrate him on this board. It amazes me.

Another guy we need to keep is Gipson. We'll be talking about him like the way we are Sheard if the Browns let him walk.


I was with you on this until the Gipson part. I like him just as much as anyone else, but let's face it, after last off season when the Browns slapped the lower tender on him, he didn't really do much after to prove he should have been worth more. Between the amount of missed time over injuries, and lack of production when he did come back... I just don't think one can make the argument that it should be as simple as paying this guy top dollar.

Now with Horton coming back, I think the odds of retaining Gipson go up because the last time he was here he raved about the type of player Gipson was when a lot of people were like "what is he talking about?" If there is an effort to re-sign him, it'll be an interesting challenge for Sashi.


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I was with you on this until the Gipson part. I like him just as much as anyone else, but let's face it, after last off season when the Browns slapped the lower tender on him, he didn't really do much after to prove he should have been worth more. Between the amount of missed time over injuries, and lack of production when he did come back... I just don't think one can make the argument that it should be as simple as paying this guy top dollar.


I think when you say missed time and then follow it up with lack of production when he came back you are missing a connection. Everyone comes back from injury too soon. It's just the way it is. Lack of previous production coming off injury is the norm. For the short period of time he was healthy he had the production.

I think he has shown plenty. Surely more than enough to warrent a good contract.

If we move on from him we have two choices, to draft a player and hope after a year or two he can develop to Gipson's standard, or, sign a FA of equal skill, if there's one available, and pay him what we should have paid Gipson, or more.

Personally I'm tired of developing players and then not wanting to pay them their worth, only to sit and watch them on better teams and in the playoffs. Supposedly they weren't good enough for this team or the playoffs which is why we got rid of them.

Just my thoughts.


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We signed Terrell Watson. He is a running back who was on the Bengals practice squad for all of 2015.



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We signed Terrell Watson. He is a running back who was on the Bengals practice squad for all of 2015.




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