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PLAYER (25)
POS.
AGE
FROM
TO
2015 CAP HIT
STATUS
Von Miller OLB 26 DEN TBD $9,754,000 UFA
Evan Mathis G 34 DEN TBD $2,921,875 UFA
Vernon Davis TE 32 DEN TBD $2,477,941 UFA
Antonio Smith DE 34 DEN TBD $2,000,000 UFA
David Bruton SS 28 DEN TBD $1,650,000 UFA
Malik Jackson DE 26 DEN TBD $1,595,403 UFA
Danny Trevathan ILB 25 DEN TBD $1,568,018 UFA
Andre Caldwell WR 30 DEN TBD $1,550,000 UFA
Ryan Harris LT 30 DEN TBD $1,420,000 UFA
Brock Osweiler QB 25 DEN TBD $1,118,944 UFA
Ronnie Hillman RB 24 DEN TBD $942,708 UFA
Omar Bolden FS 27 DEN TBD $778,607 UFA
Jordan Norwood WR 29 DEN TBD $745,000 UFA
C.J. Anderson RB 24 DEN TBD $589,167 RFA
Brandon Marshall ILB 26 DEN TBD $585,000 RFA
Lerentee McCray OLB 25 DEN TBD $515,668 RFA
Brandon McManus K 24 DEN TBD $510,000 ERFA
Todd Davis ILB 23 DEN TBD $510,000 ERFA
Tyler Polumbus LT 30 DEN TBD $481,764 UFA
Bennie Fowler WR 24 DEN TBD $435,000 ERFA
Matt Paradis C 26 DEN TBD $435,000 ERFA
Kyle Williams WR 27 DEN TBD $348,000 UFA
Sam Brenner C 25 DEN TBD $210,000 ERFA
Josh Bush SS 26 DEN TBD $194,117 RFA
Shiloh Keo SS 28 DEN TBD $137,647 UFA

Broncos free agents

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/denver-broncos/

FA:
Re-sign Schwartz, Mack, and Gipson.
Sign Bruce Irvin OLB, Mo' Sanu WR

Draft:
Trade 2 for 8 and a future first rounder (with an eye on Myles Garrett). Miami selects Jalen Ramsey

8. Carson Wentz, QB
Rd 2. Vernon Butler, DE
Rd 3. Kyler Fackrell, OLB
4a. Rashard Higgins, WR

The rest of the draft I haven't done a ton of work on. A few players I like atm: Josh Forrest, ILB; Isaac Seumalo, OL; Higbee, TE. I'd probably look for height/weight/speed DBs late. I might take the undersized LB from Akron, Jatavis Brown?

Who trades up to the second pick for a safety?

Miami. Pay attention.

My bad.

A strong possibility Wentz doesn't make it to #8...

I don't think you trade back from 2 to 8 hoping a QB falls to you.

If you're going to take a QB at 8, then just take him at 2.

If we traded back out of the Top 5 id assume that means we are not enamored with any of the QBs.

We could still take one at 8 (or wherever) but I think it'd be more because of who else had been taken, and how they were rated compared to who was left.

j/c

It seems like we're going to try our best to sign Marvin Jones or Mohammed Sanu, which will improve our WR corp immensely (and getting Gordon back too, although he's not able to be trusted).

Gordon
Sanu
Benjamin
Hawkins
Gabriel
Draft Selection


That's a pretty good corp

I would rather see us keep Hartline and drop Gabriel. Gabriel had way too many drops this past year.

I agree - if it comes down to Gabriel or Hartline, I'd keep Hartline. He was consistent and dependable.

I would normally agree with you about not trading down from two. I just don't see a transcendent player in this draft. I see one next year, and don't think Wentz is a player someone will trade up for. I like his long term potential, but I don't think he's a day one starter. There is a risk someone else takes him, but I don't see it as likely. In that case, I might take a Spence or Jack or Smith and still have the extra first next year. Aaron Rodgers fell to the 2nd half of the 1st. Do you really think a team is going to trade up for a player with more questions? I like Wentz the best of this crop of QBs, but he's not Luck or Cam. I don't think at this point that he's even Winston or Mariota. I don't see a team with a QB need in those top 8 picks outside of us.

Is there a team that might trade up? Sure, but that GM would have to have some stones .

To get better, we're going to have to work the draft. We can't continue to reach for need. Especially not when you're looking at a player whose Draft stock is based a lot upon potential.

Miami needs a DB. Jalen Ramsey seems to be the consensus top DB. Other DB needy teams are above Miami at 8 (Ravens, Jags, Chargers, etc.) Ramsey seems like he could be a guy who could cover Gronk, who Miami faces twice a year, comparatively well.

Why not try to get Wentz at 8?

When has a team ever traded into the top five for a DB?

Why fool around if you think Wentz "the guy"?

We traded up to 8 for Gilbert. The Bills traded up to 4 for Sammy Watkins. Not exactly what you asked, but the concept seems pretty close to me.

With the "new" rookie wage scale, trading to the top of the draft is not as cost-prohibitive as it used to be.

I don't think Wentz is the guy. I think he could be the guy. I think he'll be there later in the draft, unless we reach on him at 2.

Teams do not usually want to give up the picks necessary to move up for a non-QB. It doesn't have anything to do with salary.

Teams do silly things, especially when there is a perceived need. Look at our drafts most years.

And, it did have a lot to do with salary. How much did Jamarcus Russell make as a rookie? With the wage scale, it's not as big of a factor.

Teams will trade up for a QB no matter the salary. The only two non-QBs that teams have traded into the top five for since 1999 are Trent Richardson and Sammy Watkins.

Dion Jordan?

Wow. I totally skipped over him (to be fair, he is very forgettable).

To be fair, the Raiders gave the Dolphins a discounted price to move up because they were just trying to accumulate more picks. They only gave up picks 12 and 42 to move up to 3.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000...cost-half-price

I wonder how pissed teams picking around 12 were knowing they could of moved up so easily..

Ignoring the fact that draft was terrible..

I'm still upset we didnt trade with STL.

didn't the Rams trade up to draft Tavon Austin?

And it was Miami no less to #3 all the way from #12. Has anyone traded up near the top of the draft for a DB? No. But the post collective bargaining rules (that subsequently encourage more trading because of lower guaranteed $ to rookies) are only a few years old so I feel the sample size is too small to be going off history as leverage on what may, or may not, happen.

This would almost certainly never happen in real life but on FanSpeak the stars aligned.

(3) Resign: OL Mitchell Schwartz, ILB Tank Carder, S Johnson Bademosi
(13) Don’t Resign: RB Daryl Richardson, FB Malcolm Johnson, RB Raheem Mostert, WR Travis Benjamin, WR Terrelle Pryor, WR Rannell Hall, OL Darrian Miller, OL Austin Pasztor, DE Jamie Meder, LB Craig Roberson, LB Scott Solomon, S Tashaun Gipson, S Don Jones
(8) Cut: QB Jonny Manziel, QB Connor Shaw, WR Dwayne Bowe, WR Taylor Gabriel, TE Randall Tellfer, DT Randy Starks, S Jordan Poyer, CB Tramon Williams
(4) Sign: WR Marvin Jones, OLB Von Miller, ILB Danny Trevathan, S Will Hill

Draft:
2: R1P2 DE JOEY BOSA OHIO STATE
32: R2P1 RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT OHIO STATE
65: R3P2 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
100: R4P1 OLB JORDAN JENKINS GEORGIA
139: R4P40 G REES ODHIAMBO BOISE STATE
141: R5P2 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON
171: R5P32 TE JAKE MCGEE FLORIDA
173: R5P34 CB JAMES BRADBERRY SAMFORD
179: R6P1 QB NATE SUDFELD INDIANA
221: R7P2 FB DEREK WATT WISCONSIN

Depth Chart:

QB: Josh McCown, Austin Davis, Nate Sudfeld (3)
RB: Ezekiel Elliot, Duke Johnson, Isaiah Crowell (3)
FB: Derek Watt (1)
WR: Josh Gordon, Marvin Jones, Josh Docston, Brian Hartline, Andrew Hawkins, Marlon Moore (6)
TE: Gary Barnidge, E. J. Bibbs, Jake McGee (3)
OL: Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, Alex Mack, John Greco , Mitchell Schwartz, Cameron Erving, Rees Obhiambo (7)
DE: Joey Bosa, Desmond Bryant, Armonty Bryant, Xavier Cooper (4)
NT:, Danny Shelton, John Hughes, DJ Reader (3)
MLB: Karlos Dansby¸ Danny Trevathan, Christian Kirksey, Tank Carder (4)
OLB: Von Miller, Paul Kruger, Barkevious Mingo, Nate Orchard, Jordan Jenkins (5)
CB: Joe Haden, Pierre Desir, K'Waun Williams, Charles Gaines, Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Justin Gilbert (6)
S: Donte Whitner, Will Hill, Ibraheim Campbell, James Bradberry, Johnson Bademosi (5)

Special teams (3)
Charley Hughlett LS
Andy Lee P
Travis Coons K

Total-53

I doubt Von Miller even makes it to FA.

Also.. No QB till the 6th round?

And if he does, he's not coming here.

I agree with you about the QB. We will go QB very early in this draft. Hue Jackson didn't come to Cleveland to coach Josh McCown and a late round pick.

Any mock that does not have Wentz or Goff going to the Browns at #2 is unrealistic.

j/c

from all accounts Wentz really did himself some favors yesterday (at least in the eyes of the Browns)

Why?

Until you have a QB, you are doomed to less than mediocrity.

1999 to 2015.

Do I need to say more?

Can you win w/a defense that is ranked in the 30s?

On of the reasons the defense is so bad is because the offense stinks.

Green Bay a couple of years ago, New Orleans since they won the Super Bowl.

Your contrarian act wears old when you play the card without a real point.

Your post reeks of bias. You mention New Orleans. They still have the same QB, but their defense stinks now.

The Browns defense sucks. Denver won the Super Bowl w/a great defense. So did Seattle. Defense wins championships. The defense should not be ignored.

It's almost like both work.

Would you please put that thought into a complete sentence?

Let me try your style?

Both what?

Work at what?

No.

Both teams had capible QB play. Teams that have pathetic QB play don't have a chance. Such is why Dallas is Drafting 2 spots behind us, and how Indy turned it around when they tanked the Season for Luck.

My bias is only substantiated by the facts.

So, would the Browns have made the playoffs w/Manning at QB this year?