DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum The Vick dogfighting segment on Sportscenter

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http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/sadreality/6.php
Do these dogs look fed to u?!?

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No, and it's a damn shame, what these coke heads do to to these poor animals

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Makes me wonder if some of the people on this board participate in dog fighting.

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I won't learn anything while watching it.

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For all we know Vick isn't guilty. IF he is, justice will be served

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if not ESPN just drug his name through the mud so they should face charges.

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You are convinced he's gulty by what you read in the press and see on ESPN, the majority thought the Duke Lacrosse team was guilty too.

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as usual your example makes u look ignorant ... lets compare ...

1. duke lacrosse team was accused by a hooker who had done this same exact thing before .... and charges were filed by a DA running for office or a judges seat seeking publicity ...

Vick on the other hand had 35 DOGS LIVING AT HIS HOUSE ... there were KENNELS that fighting dogs are housed in, in this house .... there were all kinds of equipment that is used in training dogs to fight .. there was blood on the walls in a spot that looked alot like a dog fight pit ...

then Vick says he hadnt been there in over a year ... his neighbors who have nuttin to gain say thats a FLAT OUT LIE ...

then on ESPN a guy that been in dog fighting for over 30 years that turned informant and is still involved heavily in dog fighting under cover says that Vick is HEAVILY INVOLVED and is what they call a "high roller" or sumptin like that and fights his own dogs QUITE OFTEN ... this guy has personally seen vick on multiple occasions over the last 5 years ... he is not identified and has nothing to gain ...

they also interview a guy thats involved in law enforcement and has used this guy on multiple occasions to verify hes a legite informant and not just talking out his ass ...

hmmmm ... i think thats it ....

the case vs Duke ..... the case vs Vick .. Ya .. there pretty much the same ... well that is if u believe a hooker with a history of lying about these charges and a DA looking for publicity as opposed to Vicks neighbors, the cops that raided his house and the informant who didn't gain squat ....

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I'm not assuming he's not guilty as you say (I stated I hope he's not guilty, truth is - we don't know), you are the ASSuming one saying he's guilty and you know it.

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I was curious as to how bad it really was. Soup I was refering to you as one of the people in my post above.

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I need to leave this thread .. the lack of brains and compassion shown by some on here is more sickening than the actual dog figthing ...

how someone can compare this to boxing is beyond me ... amazing actually ....

enjoy showing just how heartless and ignorant u all can be ...

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I absolutely agree.

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Actually buddy I would rather gouge my eyes out then watch it. I only watched the espn video and the 1 I posted. Your a hypocrite for judging me but complaing about me judging you.

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Spectator - someone who watches an event or incident

You are a dog fighting spectator - I am not.

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just like OJ right soup ... guess hes innocent to .. and Bonds never did roid either ...

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Maybe Bonds needs to write a book like OJ's. Titled the same way too.

"If I did it, here's how I would have done it"

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how someone can compare this to boxing is beyond me

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Yea, having a 40 year old vegetable who drools on himself because their brain has been pounded into mush is so much more humane.

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how someone can compare this to boxing is beyond me

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Yea, having a 40 year old vegetable who drools on himself because their brain has been pounded into mush is so much more humane.

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While having a dog thats 80 (In dog years) fight to survive. Compare

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I need to leave this thread .. the lack of brains and compassion shown by some on here is more sickening than the actual dog figthing ...

how someone can compare this to boxing is beyond me ... amazing actually ....

enjoy showing just how heartless and ignorant u all can be ...

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Their both brutal, but I was adressing Diams declared shock at the comparison. I,m guessing he watches boxing and those thoughts make him uncomfortable,

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Their both brutal, but I was adressing Diams declared shock at the comparison. I,m guessing he watches boxing and those thoughts make him uncomfortable,

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BINGO! The same thing that keeps people saying, "I watched it out of curiosity. Then after seeing the ESPN clip I decided to look for more video to show how violent it is." If you can't tell it's violent from the words "Dog" and "Fighting" then you need some help. They enjoyed watching it because of the rush, must like those who are there. The rush here is "disgusting" but it's a rush none the less. Much like those who do it. I choose NOT to view it even once out of curiosity because I know I don't need to see it - much like how I refuse to watch UFC because I find it absolutely disgusting and appauling. My friends have been watching it for years, as soon as it would start I'd walk out of the room.

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Do you have reading comprehension problems? I found 1 video because I wanted to show how bad it was. If you think I found joy from it you truly are sad. I have stated thouroughly I hate dog fighting.

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Make no mistake about it, Mexico was an ESPN media darling, just like T.O., just like Dice-K, just like the Yankees/Sox. They hyped him up to be something he wasn't, an elite QB. They desperately wanted him to do that too, remember those three games in a row before the Browns game where Mexico went over 200 yard passing in those 3 games? ESPN was ready to declare that "Mexico has arrived and the rest of the NFL should watch out."

Mexico brought it upon himself, by flipping off his home crowd, by carrying a marijuana bottle, dogfighting, etc.

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Their both brutal, but I was adressing Diams declared shock at the comparison. I,m guessing he watches boxing and those thoughts make him uncomfortable,

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BINGO! The same thing that keeps people saying, "I watched it out of curiosity. Then after seeing the ESPN clip I decided to look for more video to show how violent it is." If you can't tell it's violent from the words "Dog" and "Fighting" then you need some help. They enjoyed watching it because of the rush, must like those who are there. The rush here is "disgusting" but it's a rush none the less. Much like those who do it. I choose NOT to view it even once out of curiosity because I know I don't need to see it - much like how I refuse to watch UFC because I find it absolutely disgusting and appauling. My friends have been watching it for years, as soon as it would start I'd walk out of the room.

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Do you have reading comprehension problems? I found 1 video because I wanted to show how bad it was. If you think I found joy from it you truly are sad. I have stated thouroughly I hate dog fighting.

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You went and sought out more to view

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I got such a craving for watching poor animals fight eachother to the death against there will.

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He's not saying you got a craving, he's saying that you stated how bad and gruesome it is, and that you had enough, but you go and sought out more video of this..........................

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Because I wondered how bad it was. After 1 video I will never watch anything like that again

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I wouldn't either. I was trying to help state Soup's point..

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They enjoyed watching it because of the rush

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They enjoyed watching it because of the rush

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This is where I disagree with you. I am into the rush in a general sense. Although I dont enjoy dog fighting at all. I dont think anyone here enjoyed that video. It was wrenching and you would have to be Satan to enjoy seeing that. Especially since the only thing it really showed was abused animals with heartwrenching puppy eye shots inbetween pics of a mauled Pit.
My only thing is those who like to tell themselves that one form of violence is better than the other. And then go so far as to condemn someone who even brought up the possibility of a similairity to something like boxing. One may be in a different caste, but its no better.

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Funny thing, people dont have a problem with it. They need to put themselves in the dogs paws. They are starved to the point of death. Fight to stay alive. Probabally have to kill there brother or sister. Also get abused and tortured some more even if they win a fight. God forbid what happens when they lose.

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You mention the lowest of the low raised by some crackhead in an inner city. Treating your dog this way would make a poor fighter. I would bet Vicks dogs were big, strong, well fed and with a clinic on site. Probably had some good roids for them also. Just like anything in life, there is a big difference between one end of an issue and another.

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The video was pretty tough to watch. I did not need to see it. I am curious why ESPN would feel compelled to show the video. Most of us can imagine what a dog fight to the death would look like. And it looked like a dog fight.

Second, I hope that ESPN has sufficient information to support its stands versus Vick. As a piece of reporting allegations were made that indicated that Vick was into this activity big time. If it is true, Vick is in big trouble. If it is not true, Vick may own ESPN.

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that's comical. if these dogs were so well taken care of why did the humane society take all of the dogs from the residence??? just like former player Lashon Johnson had his 85 dogs taken to the aniamal clinic where nearly half had to be euthanized because of the serverity of their injuries from fighting.

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I won't watch it. Now, I hope Vick is found innocent and then he sues the daylights out of ESPN for slander so that it goes defunct because ESPN is nothing more than the National Enquirer. This story shouldn't be on ESPN, stories like this are why I avoid the regular news. Thank God ESPN changed there view so you can see what's coming so when those no good scumbag rag reporters aren't showing highlights I can change the channel.

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So, if Vick is guilty (and the picture for him doesn't look pretty), you hope he is found innocent and sues the company that covered the story because you don't agree with their style of reporting?

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No, if he's guilty he should be prosecuted and sentenced to the proper punishment. I hope he's not guilty because it'd be nice to know that he had nothing to do with it. Now I see why ya'll fall for journalism - your reading comprehension is worse than mine.

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As a football guy, I also hope he isn't guilty. But looking at the facts-- that this all took place on HIS property (a property worth upwards of a million dollars), that everyone living on the property was UNEMPLOYED and there was a massive and costly dog fighting operation going on, informants directly linking Vick to dog fighting, neighbors claiming they have seen Vick there when he has stated that he 'never goes to the property, etc. Like I said, it's not a pretty picture for Vick and I never said he was guilty. Now, if he is, you can't take it for granted that he will be prosecuted for obvious reasons.

You also make it sound like ESPN ruined his image or something. Now, I admit that I havn't watched the specific 'report' in question, but I can say a few things with confidence. One, I'm sure it was never explicitly said that Vick was involved in this, although I'm sure a biased showing of the facts suggested this. Big difference though. Two, Vick's reputation has already been tarnished big-time for numerous off-field incidents. Maybe that isn't important but I found it relevant. Three, forgot my trian of thought, so I'll just stop here.

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ESPN should ONLY report on sports, leave the politics out of it. It is NOT a "news" station, it's supposed to take you away from that crap. Now I lost another haven from the trash TV likes to report.

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I was trying to help state Soup's point..

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I would say that you are obsessed with bumfighting while Im more interested in talking about boxing. I would bet Vicks dogs dont look like any of those you linked to. Hell people abuse animals every day, they dont have to be fighters to be abused. Your combinine 2 issues, abuse and fighting, while Im more interested soley in the fighting part of this discussion, they are seperate issues IMO. Abuse is horrible, but I dont see where fighting in and of itself is any worse than human fighting.

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Your a sad person.


If you wish to become a boxer,do you have a choice? If you get hurt in the ring,can you throw in the towel.? Don't the refs STOP the fight when someone gets injurred? Do you use a "lethal weapon" in the ring? *dog's jaw strength"?

Dog fighting IS ABUSE! They are the SAME thing! The only difference is,fighting them is EXTREME abuse! All I can say is,anyone involved in it better not let me know!

Cause I'll have the law at your door faster than you can say 911!

I know a few people who have MEAN one's. If you think it's the same as boxing? Step into THEIR yard! When you come out with 200 stitches and a few less digits on each hand,tell me how JUST LIKE BOXING it is when someone rescues you from death.......................if anyone bothers.................

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My only thing is those who like to tell themselves that one form of violence is better than the other. And then go so far as to condemn someone who even brought up the possibility of a similairity to something like boxing. One may be in a different caste, but its no better.

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That's because the comparison is moronic!
When they start muzzling the Pit Bulls and putting little boxing gloves on their paws,get back to me.

When you can ask a young Pit Bull if he WANTS to be a fighter and he can tell you yes get back to me.

One is a "sport" that people can "choose" to enter into. There are rules to STOP a boxing match if somebody is injurred. It is a concious CHOICE of a human to enter into,or not.

That's like comparing wrestling to a fiering squad. Both are violent,right?

Dee Dee DEE!