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I tried to give some reasons on my response to last night's game.

Horrible was probably an overstatement.

Paul is at his best in a half court offense where he can play off the pick and roll.

because..... THE SKY IS FALLING,THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

I'll throw out a controversial name. This particular player has mellowed out in his time with the Clippers, but his production has declined and he's failed to produce at the same level he did with his original team.


Lance Stephenson.


I think he'd be an excellent fit for us if we ran a small ball lineup. Maybe wait until next year and sign him for the vet minimum. I know his personality is questionable at best, but so is JR Smith and he's been mellowed out here. At his best years in Indiana he played like Draymond Green.

He was never anything like Draymond Green. Draymond Green is so underrated it's crazy. Defense is half the game after all, and he's been a legitimate DPOY candidate the last couple years. He can guard 1 through 5 and he's underrated on the offensive end as well (42% from three this year).

David Griffin, is that you?!?

yeah i don't think he's like Green all that much. Green is one of my fav players mostly for his consistency, Stephenson isn't anything special..Plus I don't see any world where he and Lebron play on the same team

When Lance was actually good he could guard 1-5 because of his length and strength.

j/c:

Report: Cavs active, interested in Dudley

The Cavaliers are one of the more active team on the trade market and are interested in obtaining Wizards swingman Jared Dudley, per a report on ESPN Radio in Cleveland.

Several opposing team executives have confirmed to Amico Hoops that the Cavs are one of the teams they’ve spoken with regularly leading up to the Feb. 18 trade deadline, but all denied hearing anything about the Cavs’ interest in Dudley.

According to Hoops Rumors:

“It’s unclear whether Cleveland would target Dudley with part of its more than $10.5MM trade exception or look for an exchange of salaries instead. The Cavs have reportedly gauged the market for Timofey Mozgov, whose $4.95MM salary would be a close match with Dudley’s, but the Wizards already have two traditional big men in Marcin Gortat and Nene. In any case, Cleveland has reportedly sought a three-and-D wing player to back up Iman Shumpert, and Dudley is displaying a career-best 45.9% 3-point shooting stroke this season. He ranks 19th among all small forwards in ESPN’s Defensive Real Plus/Minus metric.”

Dudley is 30 years old and in his first season with the Wizards. He had spent several years with the Suns, as did Cavs GM David Griffin as a member of the front office.

http://amicohoops.net/2016/02/report-cavs-active-on-market-interested-in-dudley/

Smith and Stephenson on the same team would give the Cavs on too many knuckleheads.

he can take love's place in the group pictures.

It must be the NBA's SillySeason... I saw an article on Facebook yesterday suggesting that the Cav's are also interested in acquiring Blake Griffen.


I have a feeling that we will be part of every rumor out there... kinda like we are every year.

Already raining 3's!!!

ugh.

you know, it doesn't even make me upset that dude make the game winning shot.

what makes me upset is that we shot something like 50% from the line. and we was getting to the line easy.

what's up with this team being craptastic at free throw shooting? this has been a huge problem since last year. i just don't get it.

if we hit even 80% of our FT, we aren't put in this situation.

yeah this team sucks...they have def. regressed under Lue, still no D, crappy ball movement and no bench. I just don't see how lebron and kyrie can co-exist. Lue's rotations are alot worse than Blatts ever were and thats saying alot. Again struggling to score and you put lebron and kyrie out there together and everyone is standing around watching them..Mo williams with 0 second half minutes after being effective in the 1st half. Something has to change or it will be chicago or Toronto in the finals the way we are going backwards..Plus Love hurt now

What the hell are they doing at halftime? Two games in a row, they come out to have 9pt leads disappear within minutes to start the 3rd qtr.

.732 > .625

Kyrie and Lebron have been awful shooting 3's this year, no idea why.

NBA rules J.R. Smith was incorrectly called for crucial foul Friday - CBSSports.com
http://www.cbssports.com/nba

Late in the fourth quarter on Friday, Cleveland Cavaliers guard J.R. Smith was strangely called for a foul on a layup attempt by Boston Celtics guard Evan Turner. The Cavaliers were up by four with less than 10 seconds to play, and it looked like a horrible mistake on Smith's part. That is, until you watched the replay and saw that no contact was made.

In the NBA's Last Two Minute Report, the call was determined to be incorrect. Judge for yourself:

It's nice that the NBA acknowledged the mistake, since Smith had his hands up to indicate he was conceding the layup. This one was obvious. If you're a Cleveland player or fan, though, this doesn't really help matters. Turner's three-point play set up Avery Bradley's game-winning 3-pointer on Boston's next possession. If the call wasn't made, the Cavaliers almost certainly would have won the game.

Whoops.

Cavs jacked up 16 3's in the 3rd.



Geez

Still amazes me we gave Varejao a contract extension. He's beyond done. I hope to God this franchise learns from this and never gives out loyalty contracts again.

You say that, but looking at the stat sheet I see that TT had 33 minutes and no points. Not watching it so I don't know the context of his 15 boards but I can't believe he didn't even get one basket.

Andy did a great job tonight, not sure what game you were watching, pulled down 10 boards and played great defense and hustle...which is exactly his game, he sets screens better than anyone on the team and has better hands than mosgov. he had the same +/- tonight as lebron.

Overall I wasn't impressed tonight, i stand by my statement that we've regressed under Lue, its obvious that Lue is letting the players do what they want, So much iso tonight. Only had 7 foul shots, that has to be a record of ineptness. If it wasn't for JR and kyrie hitting on alot of the garbage being thrown up, we'd be on a 3 game skid. AC made a great point when he question why we can't seem to get separation against anyone anymore. I just think this is going to blow up in typical cleveland fashion. Even on nights we are playing to our max ability, we still look beatable. All Star Break coming at a great time to get this ship righted and figure out what's going on. It was a win, but when Norris Cole almost drops 30 on you, you have some issues to address

Lebron's bad outside shooting stems all the way back from the playoffs last year.

When he launches from 3 I have no confidence in his shot.

So, the new coach hasn't fixed the team? Lebron may have Lue fired soon.

if you made a drinking game with everytime fred says "Lebron for 3....off the back of the rim" you'd be completely hammered..lebron has one skill, driving to the rim, thats why his career will be shorter. Or I should say his relevance will be shorter compared to MJ. MJ could shoot, as he got older developed a more consistent deep ball and learned how to post up. Lebron refuses to work on his game in that way, or he's just not capable. But everytime he shoots, it was the same feeling I'd get when DA would drop back to pass

Not to throw gas on that but the reports are that Lebron and his crew wanted Mark Jackson, so surprise surprise is represented by lebron's agency. They compromised with Lue, and still tried to recruit him to Klutch

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bask...ed-mark-jackson

I'm willing to give it some time to see if Lue actually has a system to run vs. letting the players wing it. One thing that's evident is that during timeouts, the players are actually gathered around Lue and listening to him...Lebron even seems to be paying attention (at least from the limited TV coverage at those times). They never did that with Blatt.

I want Markieff Morris. He wants out of Phoenix and Phoenix wants rid of him. I've read he statistically has given Draymond Green problems. If the Warriors went small I'd run this lineup:

Della
JR
Lebron
Love
Markieff

Lebron would be surrounded with spacers and defenders (except Love)

Morris is a talented guy. He can score and put up some numbers. There is a concern about his attitude and effort. He's the guy who threw the towel at his coach. Then again, he might fit right in w/this team. LOL

I think Lue better be careful about how he distributes the minutes. I know he wants to play faster, but the team becomes weaker defensively and doesn't rebound as well. I would not abandon playing 2 or 3 of the bigs together. Gotta find ways to get a combination of Moz, Love, TT, and Andy on the floor together. For example, I think a front line of Andy, TT, and Love could be effective at times. I would definitely go w/this lineup for part of the second quarter while resting LBJ.

You know how many second/third chance points we could potentially get with that line up. God, so much board crashing.

I think Andy and TT are the best bigs when we want to go small, Love at the 3 and Lebron wherever..But both TT and Andy can run for days and Andy still has the size to play the 5 effectively.. we saw i a bit last night with TT/Andy playing together some until TT got in Foul trouble

You're starting to see teams back off when he shoots. He's never going to be among the top 3pt guys in the league, but he was much better than he is right now. That's what made him so tough to guard because his shot used to keep a defender honest, and now they just play the dribble drive.

It's not even shot selection. There is something physically wrong with his shot.

His form is probably some of the worst I've seen.. he leans either right or back on his shots, he rarely goes straight up through the shoulders..it's amazing coaching hasn't seen it on film.

Morris and Smith on the same team? Yikes.

The Cavs best lineup against the Warriors is anything with LeBron at the center. Unfortunately for Kevin Love, that probably means he is on the bench.