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Well the easiest stat to look at is W-L record
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I don't know. That logic seems shaky considering the talent on both teams is not the same as it was in prior years.
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IMO, I just think we have the better squad than OKC.
The biggest weakness we have against OKC is Westbrook vs Kyrie.
Westbrook is the better pg. but I think we have better bigs.
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I don't know. That logic seems shaky considering the talent on both teams is not the same as it was in prior years. Even though we beat them this year and last year....
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Better than the Cavs in the west? Warriors, Spurs, and Thunder. Especially in a seven game series. Popovich and Kerr would run circles around Lue. I don't think the Thunder are clearly better.. might they beat the Cavs in a 7 game series? Yea, they might, but they are not on the Spurs level and nobody is on the Warriors level. And I'm not sure it's as simple as Pop and Kerr running circles around Lue.. Pop has had the same core group forever, and the pieces they plug in have no real choice but to buy into what they are doing there.. Kerr has a mix of talent and chemistry rarely seen in any sport, plus the core of that team also has about 4 years of continuity... Lue has a team that is in the middle of it's second year together and he is trying to get them to change their style of play... I don't believe that is an indictment against Lue that he would have trouble playing against those other two teams.
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There's a lot of bad eastern conference teams. I don't see a single team that's a true threat to us. I know we as fans like to panic, but we need to also realize our conference is bad and we're going to be making the finals frequently because of it. The only team that even has a small chance is Toronto. But I think there are three teams in the west that are clearly better than the Cavs. If the NBA actually switches to a conference free playoffs format, it would royally screw the Cavs. Not sure why people are leaving out Chicago, we've yet to beat them this year and when healthy are a very good team
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There's a lot of bad eastern conference teams. I don't see a single team that's a true threat to us. I know we as fans like to panic, but we need to also realize our conference is bad and we're going to be making the finals frequently because of it. The only team that even has a small chance is Toronto. But I think there are three teams in the west that are clearly better than the Cavs. If the NBA actually switches to a conference free playoffs format, it would royally screw the Cavs. Not sure why people are leaving out Chicago, we've yet to beat them this year and when healthy are a very good team We didn't beat Atlanta in the regular season last year either, and you saw how that turned out.
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Better than the Cavs in the west? Warriors, Spurs, and Thunder. Especially in a seven game series. Popovich and Kerr would run circles around Lue. I don't think the Thunder are clearly better.. might they beat the Cavs in a 7 game series? Yea, they might, but they are not on the Spurs level and nobody is on the Warriors level. And I'm not sure it's as simple as Pop and Kerr running circles around Lue.. Pop has had the same core group forever, and the pieces they plug in have no real choice but to buy into what they are doing there.. Kerr has a mix of talent and chemistry rarely seen in any sport, plus the core of that team also has about 4 years of continuity... Lue has a team that is in the middle of it's second year together and he is trying to get them to change their style of play... I don't believe that is an indictment against Lue that he would have trouble playing against those other two teams. Lue has not been a coach long enough to compete with Popovich and his game-to-game adjustments. I don't know if Kerr is a great coach, but he seems to be a great motivator and has a great staff.
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There's a lot of bad eastern conference teams. I don't see a single team that's a true threat to us. I know we as fans like to panic, but we need to also realize our conference is bad and we're going to be making the finals frequently because of it. The only team that even has a small chance is Toronto. But I think there are three teams in the west that are clearly better than the Cavs. If the NBA actually switches to a conference free playoffs format, it would royally screw the Cavs. Not sure why people are leaving out Chicago, we've yet to beat them this year and when healthy are a very good team We didn't beat Atlanta in the regular season last year either, and you saw how that turned out. atlanta was fools gold last year...everyone knew they'd get trounced in the playoffs..chicago matches up well with us
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Well the easiest stat to look at is W-L record The easiest? Yes. The most telling? No. First of all, the Kyrie/Westbrook stats are a six game sample. That is not big enough to tell us anything significant. Second, the Durant/James sample is also not big enough to tell us anything significant. Also, James is not the same player (so far) and Durant has been far better this season. Third, Scott Brooks is no longer involved.
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So if nothing we know is a good enough sample to prove anything.
Then no one has an argument.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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So if nothing we know is a good enough sample to prove anything.
Then no one has an argument. There is an argument to be made, just not using head-to-head stats of individual players. Is Durant the same player he was in 2008 (when that sample first started)? LeBron? Irving in 09? Westbrook?
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Atlanta was good enough to make it to the ECF. that's hardly fool's gold.
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Atlanta was good enough to make it to the ECF. that's hardly fool's gold. Nice apostrophe use.
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All we need is like 4 or 5 huge Western Conference upsets so we can play the Jazz in the Finals..
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eh....screw it. i aint editing it.
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eh....screw it. i aint editing it. No. I was being serious!
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Be careful what you wish for. Utah probably has the best defense in the NBA. Here are a couple of guys who agree: Buy or Sell: The Jazz are the best defensive team in the NBA Pandian: Yes, I'm ready to buy the Utah Jazz as the best defensive team in the NBA. That's saying a lot, obviously, but it's deserved. For starters, numbers don't lie. With Rudy Gobert serving as the Jazz's defensive backbone, Utah literally has the best defense in the league, allowing just 89.7 points per game while holding opponents to 40 percent shooting. It all works around Gobert, who is a monster -- averaging 3.4 blocks a game and just generally patrolling the paint with his sheer size. Derrick Favors is also evolving into an excellent defender and is tied for fourth in the league in steals at 2.3 per game. Plus, it's not like this defense just showed up unannounced. Utah was a beast defensively after the All-Star break last year, and they've carried that right into this year. Harper: Buy. In the final 29 games of last season, the Jazz went 19-10 (probably not the real Jazz we should expect this season because it's a 53-win pace) and had a historic defensive rating of 94.8. We wondered whether that would keep up, and so far this season, that defensive rating has held at 94.6 -- and that number was even better before a bad defensive effort against LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. Before that game, they were putting up defensive numbers only a Bullets team from the 70's had ever done. This defense is legit. Teams shoot a good percentage of 3-pointers (36 percent) against the Jazz but even when adjusting for pace, Utah allows the fewest number of attempts per game in the NBA. They force a high rate of turnovers and give up a low rate of success on effective field goal percentage. They're currently second in defending the restricted area and actually defend the 3-point shot above the break quite well. This team shuts you down better than anybody else. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bask...nse-best-in-nba
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Atlanta was good enough to make it to the ECF. that's hardly fool's gold. In the east it was..everyone that watched them play said that come playoffs they'd struggle, and they did. Chicago is a much tougher out the Atlanta was last year. Thats all I'm saying
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Atlanta was good enough to make it to the ECF. that's hardly fool's gold. In the east it was..everyone that watched them play said that come playoffs they'd struggle, and they did. Chicago is a much tougher out the Atlanta was last year. Thats all I'm saying ...and if I remember right, you predicted they'd both beat the Cav's last year. Maybe Boston, too?
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Atlanta was good enough to make it to the ECF. that's hardly fool's gold. In the east it was..everyone that watched them play said that come playoffs they'd struggle, and they did. Chicago is a much tougher out the Atlanta was last year. Thats all I'm saying ...and if I remember right, you predicted they'd both beat the Cav's last year. Maybe Boston, too? Then you'd be remembering wrong
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Atlanta was good enough to make it to the ECF. that's hardly fool's gold. In the east it was..everyone that watched them play said that come playoffs they'd struggle, and they did. Chicago is a much tougher out the Atlanta was last year. Thats all I'm saying ...and if I remember right, you predicted they'd both beat the Cav's last year. Maybe Boston, too? Then you'd be remembering wrong BS You were down on the Cavs all year last year. You said the Hawks would crush them. I should start bookmarking threads like these.
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Yeah, I just took a quick look at the Cavs thread from last may and found these: I don't think we make it out of the east this year
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It's nice seeing Kobes last game in Cleveland.
Too bad for him this is gonna be an azz beating.
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I hate games like these because the Cavs know they can just take the night off and out talent the lakers. So if they look slightly bad, fans are gonna overreact.
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That Randle dunk is the perfect example of what I'm talking about lol
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i wonder how many years it's gonna take for the lakers to be relevant again, they have some young raw talent on that squad.
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That didn't look good. Kevin ran into locker room dragging his left shoulder. It didn't appear there was any contact on the play, but he ran by the bench without hesitation.
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Yeah if I was to bet he's prob done for year, that looked like another dislocation. Going to be interesting to see what griffin does
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“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
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Only thing that looked off was when he turned to shoot it almost looked like Kobe had his arm pinned across his chest, then maybe when he landed it jarred something
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Only thing that looked off was when he turned to shoot it almost looked like Kobe had his arm pinned across his chest, then maybe when he landed it jarred something Actually, looking at it again in detail, Kevin took the shot and backed away while still moving his left arm up and down, so it couldn't have happened during or right after the shot attempt. With that being said, he looked like he was in pain going by the bench, unless he was just being cautious and knew the half was about over.
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I think regardless of prognosis, the cavs have to use their assets to get some insurance for him. Can't rely on Andy staying healthy
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Never seen a pass intercepted like that before. 
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM
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Lue just said stinger for love, that's good news esp since it's the one he dislocated
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Well, that isn't the 100% official diagnosis because he said that's what he "heard during halftime", but that does soften the concern I have a bit.
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i wonder how many years it's gonna take for the lakers to be relevant again, they have some young raw talent on that squad. Laker fans thought they were going to make the this season.
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Yeah, I just took a quick look at the Cavs thread from last may and found these: I don't think we make it out of the east this year he will backpedal faster than Deion Sanders
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