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If people try hard enough they can find something to be offended about everywhere

The crazy thing is that Beyonce demanded--and received--a police escort to the game.

Another freaking hypocrite, but it's okay. She's black.

Being pro black doesn't mean anti-cop, nor anti-white for that matter.

I'd expect a teacher to understand that.

I am pro-people, rather than any one group. I also do not like the double-standards that are becoming the norm in today's society.

And to think the outrage over the Rebel flag was 100 times worse.

That's your opinion.

Being pro black means fighting to be treated as equals, not to be better than anybody. Pro black means uplifting yourself after society treaties you as second rate.

We aren't trying to be isolated. We're trying to be equal. That's all.

Once you guys understand the concept, the situation makes more sense.

If you refuse to want to understand the idea, well, that's your right, and I dunno what else to do except say I tried.

This happens to every race not just blacks.

And I hope they fight to become equals as well.

But the thread is you crying about beyonce paying homage to the original black panther party, so that's what I'm commenting about.

Your post is a major contradiction. I said I am pro-people. Not sure why you don't get that.

Well explain then why everything has to have BLACK prefix

Black Panthers, Black History, Black Channel, Black Pride or having to be African American instead of just Americans?

Seems that isolates rather than trying to be equal.

It's not a major contradiction. You just don't wanna hear what I have to say.

I love everybody from every race, from every culture. I also understand that certain races are treated worse than others, and that certain races are fighting to just be on equal grounds with others.

You are pro people. That's awesome, and I get that, but it seems you and Vambo don't understand the oyher dynamics that go into that.

But I'm going to bow out of this thread. It's clear that we aren't allowed to try and uplift black people in this country to become better integrated into society.

I, swish, apologize to the board for wanting equal rights and treatment under the law. I should have known my place, and just accepted that you guys hate beyonce so postive message. I'm sorry. It won't happen again guys.

Why is it just uplift BLACK people why not uplift ALL people in this country to become a better integrated into society?

Jesus....

Just clicking:

As Nigel Powers said in Goldmember: There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures ... and the Dutch.

Yes he may help you in your time of trouble heart.

Perhaps it is you who doesn't want to hear what others have to say?

And speaking of contradictions........the message that Beyonce was supposedly conveying is completely opposite to her demanding and receiving a police escort to the game.

Another phony hypocrite that feeds off the system and then complains.

Who said he is besides you? Why are you trying to make Swish a racist?

How am I trying to make swish look like a racist?

Well you are insinuating that Swish doesn't want to uplift "ALL" people in this country. He never said. It's almost like you're trying to stir the pot. But hey, race baters gotta live too I guess.

Here is his direct quote..."It's clear that we aren't allowed to try and uplift black people in this country to become better integrated into society. "

Where is my insinuating that Swish doesn't want to uplift "ALL" people in this country? His words.

My question was why did he use the term BLACK instead of ALL?

Using the term Black isolates other races just the opposite of what he said he wanted to do.

When I walk into a room, you don't see a man, you see a black man and then all of your bias, stereotypes, assumptions go into a affect.

At least no one has brought up the "we need a white history month!" argument....yet.

And, if I walk into a room, you don't see a man, you see a white man, and then all of YOUR biases, stereotypes and assumptions go into affect.

The best thing to do is not have those.

If you and I met, let's face it: The absolute first thing EITHER of us would notice is the color of the others skin. That's not a problem. What we DO with that is what matters.

I whole heartily agree, there is nothing wrong with noticing each other skin colors its how we act after we meet.

Here is the wrinkle, If you walk in to a group of white people they see you as a man, if I walk into a group of black man they see me a man. Why? Because the color barrier does not matter, there is no difference between people of the same skin color so our bias, stereotypes, assumptions are redirecting to something else like; "what type of clothes are they wearing".

So back to my original statement, when I walk into a room the first thing you notice is that I am different from you. People are scared of the different people.

Are you scared of Asians? Latinos? Women? They are different.

As a minority I understand the other minorities plight..

Also those minorities are not in the position, politicly, and/or have the the power to make it harder for other minorities.

Like being President of the United States?

Darn my education I didn't know the President had the power to make any thing he wants happen. Who cares about the congress or senate. Darn Columbus Public Schools!

Honest question: Why is it we always discuss the black minority?

Few reason off the top of my head.

I'm black, so I don't know all the plights of other minorities.

Slavery has affected my fore-fathers more then any other minority in America.

Pre-Civil Rights has affected my grandparents/parents more then any other minority in America.

(those to items really affected who I am today)

Laws, policies and other bad things (education, jobs,real estate) that affect black minorities, more so then other minorities

List of African-American United States Representatives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_United_States_Representatives

List of African-American United States Senators
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_United_States_Senators

BAfrican Americans in the United States Congress
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress

and then?

But just a few posts up, you said you did understand.


Thanks for your reply.

You really think "laws, policies, and education" affect blacks more than than Hispanics, Asians? Heck, as for education and laws, whites deal with the same thing. And there are laws about policies - whether you think they are carried out equally is a different story, I get that.

I think Beyonces actions were comedic.

She is but a blip on the radar of pop culture.

Ten years from now no one will remember who she is.

"One of the most vexing questions in African-American history is whether free African Americans themselves owned slaves. The short answer to this question, as you might suspect, is yes, of course; some free black people in this country bought and sold other black people, and did so at least since 1654, continuing to do so right through the Civil War."

http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2013/03/black_slave_owners_did_they_exist.html

I could see how this could affect them.

"Originally Posted By: Lurker
As a minority I understand the other minorities plight.."



"Originally Posted By: Lurker
Few reason off the top of my head.

I'm black, so I don't know all the plights of other minorities."

Please read statements again and look for the words understand ,all,know

Translated you have no clue what you are talking about.

I guess you don't understand.

Definition for understand
interpret or view (something) in a particular way. (source google it)

Definition for Know
have knowledge or information concerning (source google)

Definition for All
used to refer to the whole quantity or extent of a particular group or thing. (source google)

So if you take the actual textbook definition of those words......

"As a minority I can interpret or view the other minorities plight"


"I'm black, so I don't have knowledge or information concerning the whole quantity of the other minorities plights"

Is that better? If you don't know what interpret means let me know and I can explain that also!

The pettyness in this thread.