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Well if it was a thread doing nothing but mocking religious discussion and served no other purpose, then I can understand why it got deleted..

Yet 40's original thread serves one?

Huh....

Barely... but I guess the thought is that if athiests are angry, discuss it here.. no need for a different thread.

When a poster starts a thread and this is the first and only content to start the thread:

"Not really, just yanking 40s chain. lol"

It's going to be deleted every time.

Any more discussion on why your thread was removed needs to go in the proper forum, Feedback.

Is Ref 3 Angry?

Far more amused than angry.

LOL.....I hear you.

From day one of my arrival to these Boards, years ago, I was assailed by PDR and others. I was called every derogatory name in the book by what turned out to be drug addicts and those with other problems. (admitted by them in their own posts)

I was forged and molded by it, day after day, month after month until I became a Hammer and shield while I am here.

What you know of me here is a shadow of what you would find in real life.

So now it's back to stating my opinions...
Shield Up! Hammer Ready!

I shall endeavor to soften the hammers strike but the shield will remain.

If you get mocked and ridiculed for no other reason than the Gospel, you are in good company.

Matthew 10:25- It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

Matthew 5:11-12- 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

As long as we speak the truth in love, (the two primary requisites, truth and love) we have the LORD's blessing.

Most of what 40 gets mocked for are his black and white, with us or against us political stances.

Teaching the scriptures and worshiping God was always allowed on the Sabbath. Jesus taught in the Temple on the Sabbath, even from childhood. Most people did not have copies of the scriptures in their homes. The Sabbath was the day they went to Temple to learn, sacrifice, and worship God.

AS Christians, our Sabbath rest is in Jesus. Nothing says that we cannot take a day to worship God, or to get away from the concerns of the secular world, but the requirement to do so no longer exists for Christians, because our rest is in Jesus Christ.

I don't know everything that 40 or anyone else posts, so I specified "for the Gospel".

BTW, I really have enjoyed your other posts in this discussion.

Yes, it is not a stone commandment for us, but I think a weekly Sabbath is healthy. It gives the body a chance to rest, and it gives us an opportunity to worship God corporately. So I pretty much keep a two day Sabbath anyways, a whole day for rest and time with family and another day for rest, corporate worship in my local fellowship, and time with family. But I am not under the Old Covenant guidelines (can't cook, Sabbath Day's Journey, etc.), and it is not something that I feel CONSTRAINED to do. It is something I want to do, and BTW, I feel that regular Corporate Worship in a body of fellowship is VERY IMPORTANT. (Hebrews 10:28). But we do so CHEERFULLY, not by constraint.

SO an interesting question occurred to me. Someone might say that I am not keeping the commandments because God said "six days you shall do your labor" and I am only employed for five. But of course, this is not what God meant.

Sometimes people get to wrapped up in the LETTER of the Law, and not enough in the SPIRIT of the Law. In Christ, we are fully justified for He kept the whole Law perfectly, and the righteousness of the Law is also fulfilled in us who do not walk after the flesh, but walk after the Spirit.

We are under the Royal Law.

James 2:8- If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

The Sabbath is a day of rest. Jesus made it plain that there are circumstances that permit helping others. Remember the story of the ass in the ditch? But yes, I observe the Sabbath.

The difference between us is I don't try to judge you or dispel your beliefs even if they are different from mine. You have a right to believe and worship they way you choose.

I think it's very respectful to keep the Sabbath and not include pagan customs into my observances. I'm not trying to judge you or convince you to follow my belief system. And that's the problem here.

There are many differing beliefs among Christian religions. Many feel they have some special insight as to what's right or wrong. They each believe they are doing right by the Lord. That's just fine by me. The Lord guides us all to do that which we believe is right.

One way the Devil disrupts is to get people bickering about insignificant issues. It's why there are so many different denominations, each having their own stickler points which differ from each other.

So long as we bicker over insignificant issues we are overlooking the main point. It's a lot like the government works, they get us focused on unimportant things which serves to make us ignore the truth. In both instances it makes us weaker.

I havent judged or tried to dispel your beliefs either, so that is not a difference between us. I have stated my part and you have stated your part. If you think I tried to dispel your beliefs or judge you, your posts came closer to that than mine. But I don't think this is an issue to divide over, and I really didnt get on here to debate other Christians, but you kept pressing the issue, and I merely responded.

Like I said before, keeping a Sabbath is healthy and beneficial, as long as you don't turn it into a dividing line between Christians. The New Testament speaks against that position in the posts that I have posted.

BTW, if you want to keep the Sabbath the way Jesus did, following His example, you would have to keep it the WAY He did, and that would be following the Old Testament commands surrounding it (though not the human traditions around it). So it is judgemental to say that I am not following the Lord because I do not keep to a strict Sabbath observance (though I do keep a Sabbath), even though you don't keep the strict Sabbath observance either (unless you keep every part of it, exactly the way Jesus did, which would be the way God commanded it in the TORAH.)

So if you want to put yourself under the Torah, you must keep the entire Torah. The Torah was good, it's purpose to preserve a Holy Nation, prepare for Messiah, and to reveal sin, righteousness, and the need for a Saviour. It perfectly fulfilled God's intention for it.

As far as the other nine commandments, I don't keep them because I am under the Torah, I keep them because I am under the Torah, but because I am under the perfect Law of Liberty mentioned in James 2:8

Having a healthy debate over the finer points of Theology among Christians is not always a bad thing. It's how we learn. It is only unhealthy if one side points fingers and accuses the other side of not being a good Christian or not being a Christian at all.

In essentials, Unity

In non essentials, Liberty

In all things, Charity

Christians should be able to disagree with each other, even strongly disagree without getting bent out of shape about it. It doesnt have to be divisive. Sometimes healthy disagreements edify both parties.

We don't want to spend time debating each other to the exclusion or expense of evangelism, that I agree would be a problem. But healthy discussions are one way that Christians can edify each other.

See, you are continuing this Sabbath discussion after you said that it's healthy and beneficial to do so. Now you wish to critique how I observe it. You simply can't help yourself, can you? lol

If you can read the 4th Cammandment, it should explain how I observe the Sabbath. It's not that technical. So you can resist going any further with this? Somehow I doubt it......

This I agree with as long as Christians remain on solid ground on the important things... sometimes Christians seem to miss the forest because they are staring at the trees... that's when it becomes a problem.

My pastor once told a story about the Bolshevik revolution... according to his story, they were taking over Russia, driving the Christian church out (or at least underground)... and as this take-over was happening, there are countless articles written by the Church in Russia at the time, fighting over the proper height of candles on the altar during service...

I have no problem fighting over the minutia as long as, in the end, we can all agree that it is not fundamental to our faith.

Sure, it's healthy to keep the Sabbath, but it is not healthy to say a person is not following the example of Jesus because they do not follow it strictly by the guidelines layed out in the Torah, especially if you are not strictly following the guidelines in the Torah. I don't know if you are or not, which is why I asked the questions I asked you.


I keep the Sabbath by nature. No one has to tell me to do it. I just do it. And yes, I do rest on Saturday. But I might actually drive more than a half mile on Saturday.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

In addition to what I wrote above, the fourth commandment isnt the final word in the Torah about the Sabbath.

that's not all that is involved in observing the Sabbath.

BTW, what do you think it means to keep the Sabbath holy? It means to set it apart right? So does that mean the whole day is devoted to sacred things, (not just go to church for a couple hours and that go home and rest in any way you see fit.)? I would think keeping the Sabbath Holy is devoting the whole day to worship and serving God and nothing else) If I were to define keeping a day holy, that is what it would mean to me, for to sanctify something means to set it apart for DIVINE PURPOSES, not just for rest.

At this point, I withdraw from the Sabbath discussion. Thanks for the interesting discussion, Pitt.

I actually didn't do that at all. I stated my beliefs and why I kept them. Of course you obviously either missed or ignored this...



So you can dispense with the sermon now.

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Sure.

We will disagree on that bro. I Believe we have a day of rest so that those of us who would ignore it just to provide for our family's are forced to take notice and slow down to take care of ourselves.

I thought it was amusing too!

That's why I take two days of rest, because I really need it!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/accused-orego...8334.html?nhp=1

Accused Oregon refuge occupier cites devil, demands damages from U.S.

If God is angry, this is probabaly good reason.

Yep, I just got an email and He says He is still angry!

Wow... you're on the mailing list, too?

I signed up at www.ImadeyouallinMyimage.org

Whodathunkit?
God is a non-profit!

i laughed the entire time reading this.

Bill creating 2 marriage licenses clears Kentucky Senate

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/bill-creating-2-marriage-licenses-clears-kentucky-senate/

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Kentucky’s state Senate approved a bill Thursday that creates different marriage license forms for gay and straight couples, with one Republican senator saying any form that does not include the words “bride” and “groom” is disrespectful to traditional families.

The primary purpose of the legislation was to remove the names of county clerks from marriage licenses, a response to the controversy surrounding Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis and her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.


But the Republican controlled Senate amended the bill as a way to show their support for traditional marriage. Former Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear changed the marriage license form last summer once same-sex marriages became legal, removing “bride” and “groom” and replacing it with “first party” and “second party.”

“Quite frankly, it’s almost disrespectful to the traditional family,” said Republican state Sen. John Schickel of Union. “That’s’ why, wisely, we decided to have two forms. That has nothing to do with bigotry, nothing to do with discrimination. It has to do with the vast majority of Kentuckians that respect traditional marriage.”

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Democratic Sen. Morgan McGarvey of Louisville tried to amend the bill to create one form, where a person would have the option to check “bride,” ”groom” or “spouse” beside their name. He said having one form would be cheaper and more efficient, and it would treat everyone fairly. It failed.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which brought the lawsuit against Davis, said in a news release the Senate was “setting a dangerous slippery slope precedent by catering to one specific religious belief and privileging that over others.”

“Separate forms for gay and lesbian Kentuckians constitute unequal treatment under the law,” said Michael Aldridge, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky. “Pure and simple, this bill is motivated by the desire to accommodate discrimination against same-sex couples.”

Republican Sen. Stephen West, the sponsor of the bill and whose district includes Rowan County, said gay couples could choose to use the “bride” and “groom” form if they wished.

Two Republicans voted against the bill_Julie Raque Adams of Louisville and Wil Schroder of Wilder— citing their wish to have one form. But others, including Democratic Sen. Gerald Neal of Louisville, said creating two marriage licenses is taking the state “down a path that has already been paved in this commonwealth that has a tendency to reinforce bigotry.”

“Separate has never been equal,” he said.


The bill now heads to the Democratic controlled House of Representatives, where Speaker Greg Stumbo has said the House is likely to pass its own version.

___

This story has been corrected to show the Republican senator said any form without the words “bride” and “groom” would be disrespectful to traditional families.

I found an interesting article for you religious types.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/...-name-is-jesus/

Cool stuff right there Eric.
God works in mysterious ways.

No no no, He emails me.

I asked if He was still angry and the response I got was...

"Yo Fore-tay! Yea mon, I be throwing some serious shade mon."

(I think He does that just to rattle my cage)

God is Jamaican?

Rattled your cage too?

When I was in Jamica, after shopping in a few of those smoke filled grass huts I was pretty sure I saw God.

Did he look like Morgan Freeman?

More like Bob Marley but it was the 80's so him might have grown freckles later.