DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Peter King Hearing Buzz That Browns Could Go After Osweiler

We talk about millions of dollars like they are an hourly wage..

Its depressing.

Like, if a job offered me 10$ an hour, but a competitor offered me 12$ an hour.. thats a big deal..

Seriously.. Your contract is 40+ million and your upset its not 48?

because that's the market, which is why i don't complain about what they get paid.

for somebody working at mcdonalds, they will roll their eyes an a senior accountant complaining about 80k a year.

but to that accountant, he's wondering why he get's 80k when his colleague's are getting 85k.

and up and up and up it goes. (just throwing out numbers)

I think some people would rather deceive than educate.

It's all relative. It's human nature. $12 per hour, $12,000per hour, you take note if you can make more. Especially when you are a 20 or 30 something.

People don't usually gain a sense of satisfation or reality of place until they are 50 something.

If there is only a $2 million difference between what Osweiler wants and what Denver wants, then there is no way he hits the market.

A big "if."

Right. I doubt the source.

Either way. I think Osweiler gets locked up.

Probably so.

Please Lock him up, Elway.

Get's one more team out of our way in the future. Ala NE and Brady. Pitt.

Gee. Wonder what Elway's fascination with Wentz is all about.

Anyone want to pay Osweiler more than three years and more than $45 million? Because that's what the Broncos are offering him.

http://www.9news.com/sports/broncos-offer-to-osweiler-3-years-more-than-45-million/69607526

Reminder: Osweiler has seven career starts.

No

no, we don't need a qb we have plenty of them starting with couch and ending with manzel

For that kind of money we could get the best punter in the league so we can watch the leagues highest paid worst defense in the nfl on the field longer.

Matt Flynn 2.0? as far as contracts go.

Which is seven more than Goff or Wentz.

He also has experience in the NFL and spent a lot of time in the QB room w/Manning. Of course, that pales in comparison to the tutelage that Goff and Wentz have received.

I like these comparisons.

Cousins was called DA by two posters and now Osweiler is being compared to Flynn. Meanwhile, Wentz is the next Big Ben and and Goff is Matt Ryan.

Matt flynn spent time with aaron rodgers.

Matt cassel spent time with Tom Brady.

the whole "he spent time with...." hasn't exactly worked out recently.

did you miss the "contract" part?

cause i didn't compare them as far as play on the field goes.

Great thinking.

Jamarcus Russell was considered to be the next great QB.

RGIII was going to be a combination of Randall Cunningham and Peyton Manning.

Y'all told me that Brandon Weeden was going to be a star.

We can play that stupid game all day long, Swish. Are you REALLY saying that spending time w/Manning and having experience in the NFL isn't important, or are you just being Daman-like?

No, I didn't miss it.........but did you miss the lame-ass comment cfrs made about only starting 7 games?

You realize I made my comments based off of that comment. Funny how when I use the same "logic" that you guys use........y'all get upset and act like I am the one who made the first "logical" comment.

well, i never said any of those things. so maybe you're addressing somebody else.

and i know for damn sure i didn't endorse Weeden.

i never said it wasn't important, but what i'm saying is that we need to cool it with the "so and so studied under so and so".

because if that's the case, why not go after matt cassel? he studied under tom brady, right?

Why not tavaris jackson? he was under wilson for a while, right?

how about landry jones?

so if i had to choose, i rather grab somebody in the draft than Os.

are you ready to outbid denver?

that's why i said as far as contracts go, this has matt flynn written all over it. dude started a couple games, everybody bought into the hype, and he tanked.

we've seen this story repeatedly.

Do I really have to spell this out for you even further?

cfrs said something like this:

Keep in mind that he has only seven career starts. That sounded biased and dumb. Thus, I turned the tables on him by pointing out that the collegiate qbs have even less experience. So, where does that leave us?

Jesus......

I'd pay the $45 mil to Jesus. He needs to work on his throwing motion though.

my bad for stating my opinion on the board.

Swish.........I wasn't bashing your opinion. Heck man..........did I ever ONCE say that I thought the Browns should pay Osweiler that kind of money? LOL...no, I didn't. I was just playing the same dumb game that cfrs was playing.

It is interesting how one's perspective on a situation can think one comment is perfectly reasonable while the other is outlandish. A teachable moment, to be sure.

I would sign Brock for 3 years, 45 mil.

It allows you to say for at least the next 3 years, this is our guy.. now build around him.

You can use the #2 pick on an impact player (Bosa, Ramsey, etc)

And you can still grab a guy in the mid to late rounds to sit behind him and McCown (this season) to develop in case..

If he's average to above average, 15 mil a year is a bargain..

$15 mill per is a lot to pay a guy who has proven not very much.

He's proven about as much as Ryan Tannehill.

#APostSoNiceIMadeItTwice

Brock is going to cost a lot more than a 1st round pick, which could be devastating to our cap for years to come. He's also 4 years older than Goff and 2 years older than Wentz. He was also graded to be a worse QB prospect than they are, because of a few problems to his game. He's yet to amend those problems. Kirk Cousins roughly has the same problems, although he's shown flashes of improvement.

Yes 15 million would really kill any possible spending when we only have 40 million available.

Every bit helps.

Strange analysis.

Not inaccurate. Fact is Osweiler, with all his NFL experience and arm talent, couldn't keep the starting job over a Futuarama-Peyton Manning, just a head in a jar with no body. What does that say?

I would like to know how Osweiler and Cousins have "roughly the same problems." Would you care to elaborate?


Oh, and don't make crap up. I will research this in case you don't take my word for it.

They both are going to get paid a lot of money? Mo' money, mo' problems.

Well, both teams made the playoffs last year. One of them won the Super Bowl.

The Broncos decided they would rather go forward w/Osweiler rather than P. Manning who is one of the all-time great QBs.

The Redskins decided to go forward w/Cousins rather than RGIII, who was supposed to become one of the greatest qbs of all-time and who they spent a fortune on by trading away an outrageous number of draft picks.

Meanwhile, the Browns have already given up on a qb they drafted in the first round just two years ago, fired multiple coaches and GMs in the last few years, had their once golden boy just step down due to shady circumstances, and had the second worst record in the league.

It kinda makes me wonder.......who really has mo' problems?

I'm not saying I'd do it, but I just want to point out that I highly doubt Seattle is really sweating paying all that money to Flynn a couple years back and not even starting him... ever. They got their QB, and while they wasted some resources nailing down that position, they did it.

I think my takeaway is that if you're serious about addressing the QB situation (and I mean really serious), you do whatever you need to do. That means wasting more resources than you probably should, and taking the heat that comes with it.

Hold up. Did someone just say that Osweiler won the Super Bowl? Did his 0 plays single handily defeat the Panthers or was it more of a team effort?

Cousins is better than Osweiler, but also older.