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Watched a report on Vice where a reporter traveled SC talking to middle age and older black voters and they sounded so under educated and blind with faith in the Clintons; most had never heard anything about Bernie Sanders, they weren't even open to learning about him. That is how you get a black firewall... sad.

This result is exactly what I expected in SC.

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Part of this is due to Bernie, albeit insanely educated, not being able to preach his message to a vast audience. Not saying he should dumb it down, but he fails to connect with anyone other than the young idealists (Me), or highly educated college individuals who bathe in his rhetoric.

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Good points. Good luck with your boy come Tuesday. They say he has a chance in Texas.

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RO, you should take a look at the Flesch–Kincaid scale of Presidential candidates.

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I'm not surprised that Sanders scores the highest. Not surprised Trump scores at a fourth grade level, either.

We're turning into a living Idiocracy.

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Guess that explains why Bernie lived with Mom till he was 50 and Trump built a multi billion dollar empire.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Guess that explains why Bernie lived with Mom till he was 50 and Trump built a multi billion dollar empire.


rofl rofl rofl rofl

I don't even like Trump., but that's absolutely hilarious! rofl


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Whoever we end up electing to be our CEO for the next four years. I just hope they get rid of the Czar concept and hire up a bunch of project managers to get control of where all this money we pay in taxes now is going.


Then you probably would love Donald Trump. He'll run it like a business.

Just forget the fact that his businesses have filed bankruptcy 4 times.. Don't let that worry you LOL



I'm more afraid of Trump running it like a megalomaniac and discovering his inner Nero.


Do you really think he hasn't discovered his inner Nero yet? I'm thinking he thinks he's the reincarnation of Nero and Napoleon already.


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RO, you should take a look at the Flesch–Kincaid scale of Presidential candidates.

I have to say that I would take little solace in whatever the hell Flesh-Kincaid is as I've heard Sanders use the word "ain't" so many times it is embarrassing. How anyone thinks he is a great orator is beyond me.


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Oration and word choice are two different modes of delivery. He speaks in a high voice, but his delivery isn't always the most refined.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Oration and word choice are two different modes of delivery. He speaks in a high voice, but his delivery isn't always the most refined.

Based on what I saw of that site it is what grade level can understand you. Is that not what it is? I think my son knew in Kindergarten that it wasn't OK to use "ain't" and he wasn't running for President. I guess I don't get how that site can say how horrible Trump is, yet Bernie is the best when he constantly uses a word that isn't even real.

I don't really care for Trump, but to use this site to discredit him is a joke IMO.


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Just saw a clip of Cruz on Meet the Press saying Trump's income tax returns might show his ties to the Mafia. WOW

http://egbertowillies.com/2016/02/28/ted-cruz-accuses-donald-trump-of-mafia-association-video/

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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii resigns her position as DNC Vice Chair so that she can endorse Sen. Sanders.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/rep-gabbard-endorses-bernie-sanders-633003075587

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Just saw a clip of Cruz on Meet the Press saying Trump's income tax returns might show his ties to the Mafia. WOW

http://egbertowillies.com/2016/02/28/ted-cruz-accuses-donald-trump-of-mafia-association-video/


A: Would/Does this surprise anyone?
B: Would mafia ties actually show up in tax returns?


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Cruz was also implying the tax return may show donations to Planned Parenthood. I'm sure Cruz would love to beat Trump with that stick.


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B: Would mafia ties actually show up in tax returns?


Maybe on Schedule A, unreimbursed business expenses ...

$1500 - Vinny Stugatto (Mafia) - Kneecapping rival construction company owner.

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I sure hope something works. I can't stand the thought of this guy being the nominee, he won't get enough support to win the presidency. There are too many people like myself (least I hope) that won't vote for him.


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I sure hope something works. I can't stand the thought of this guy being the nominee, he won't get enough support to win the presidency. There are too many people like myself (least I hope) that won't vote for him.


Hillary hopes their are many like you. She wishes to thank you for your vote ahead of time.

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I sure hope something works. I can't stand the thought of this guy being the nominee, he won't get enough support to win the presidency. There are too many people like myself (least I hope) that won't vote for him.


Hillary hopes their are many like you. She wishes to thank you for your vote ahead of time.


yall already had the candidates that could beat hilary.

but instead yall chose instead to make sure you put out the craziest guy imaginable.

when hilary is the first female president in history, the republican party has nobody to blame but themselves.


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I sure hope something works. I can't stand the thought of this guy being the nominee, he won't get enough support to win the presidency. There are too many people like myself (least I hope) that won't vote for him.


Conservatives hate him
Liberals hate him
Moderates see him as an obnoxious blowhard unsuitable for 1600 Penn

TRUMP... THE ULTIMATE UNIFIER !!!!


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And still they will make him our President.

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i hope trump steamrolls through super tuesday.

The Hilary is gonna absolutely destroy this guy. he doesn't stand a chance.

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i hope trump steamrolls through super tuesday.

The Hilary is gonna absolutely destroy this guy. he doesn't stand a chance.


Especially with everyone staying home which is a vote for Hillary.

I have changed my Kasich vote to Rubio for this Tuesday, If Rubio can't make a run on Trump now, its over.

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choosing between trump, hillary or sanders is like choosing which STD you want


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choosing between trump, hillary or sanders is like choosing which STD you want


brownie

However, Bernie is a commie so who cares about him.

Hillary is a proven STD.

Trump was an STD but says he no longer is.

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I chose not to vote in the last election because I felt Obama would win a second term. This election, I will be voting for Hillary Clinton, right or wrong, BECAUSE of Donald Trump. I seriously do not understand how he continues to gain more support. He has no foreign policy. He has no feasible domestic policy. He has insulted women, Hispanics, Muslims and to some degree people with disabilities. He has insulted several of those running against him. I find him very swallow, narrow-minded and insincere.


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I look at Trump this way...

-He wanted to be President and to make America great again.
-He couldn't run as a Democrat because he thinks they are the major reason the Country is declining.
-He couldn't run as a Republican because only Conservative Republicans can win in the Primaries and he is not Conservative enough.
-He couldn't run as an Independent because there is no organization for Independents. He would not have access to all the demographics, voting blocks, etc that the RNC and DNC have at their disposal.

So he ran as a Republican. He had no support from anyone inside the Party. He ran as Trump the Madman, lashing out at everything and everyone establishment. He fought tooth and nail to not be crushed and eliminated by the powerful RNC.

The people liked it and began to support him and he has been kicking butt ever since. He has become the man to beat.
Brilliant!

He is now the only candidate who is self funded, owing nothing to no one and his only support is that of the American People who have lined up to make him President.

To me, it is an all American story and one for the History books.

Like him or not.

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Like him or not.

Not. Precisely why I will make sure that my vote counts.


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Trump is not conservative at all.
If he wanted to run independently he could've done like Ross Perot did and just run.
If he was self funded he wouldn't have a Donate button on his website.

As I've said before, Trump is the other side of the crony capitalism transaction.
If we're tired of crony capitalism, he shouldn't be doing so well.

If Hillary gets the whitehouse because Trump gets the nomination first off I don't see a difference in either of the of what they'll do once in office and the GOP has only themselves to thank for allowing the frustration that their inaction has fostered.

I can look myself in the mirror after a vote for John McCain, at least he was someone I could respect.

I have to be able to live with myself before anyone else and I can't in good conscience live with myself after voting for that hypocrite.


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I can look myself in the mirror after a vote for John McCain, at least he was someone I could respect.

McCain had my vote (I'm registered Democrat) until he chose a Vice President.


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RO, you should take a look at the Flesch–Kincaid scale of Presidential candidates.

I have to say that I would take little solace in whatever the hell Flesh-Kincaid is as I've heard Sanders use the word "ain't" so many times it is embarrassing. How anyone thinks he is a great orator is beyond me.


All I have to say to that is, Death to SVE.

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RO, you should take a look at the Flesch–Kincaid scale of Presidential candidates.

I have to say that I would take little solace in whatever the hell Flesh-Kincaid is as I've heard Sanders use the word "ain't" so many times it is embarrassing. How anyone thinks he is a great orator is beyond me.


All I have to say to that is, Death to SVE.


Don't feel bad guys, he's gotta be a better speaker than Trump! At least when Bernie is done speaking you know what he intends to do.
Trump uses every word in his vocabulary (some several times-huge, beautiful, fantastic) and you still don't have a clear idea of what his intentions are.


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I can look myself in the mirror after a vote for John McCain, at least he was someone I could respect.

McCain had my vote (I'm registered Democrat) until he chose a Vice President.


Yeah, and she lost all my respect after her latest endorsement.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Just saw a clip of Cruz on Meet the Press saying Trump's income tax returns might show his ties to the Mafia. WOW

http://egbertowillies.com/2016/02/28/ted-cruz-accuses-donald-trump-of-mafia-association-video/


Hasn't he been timing tons of inflammatory lies ahead of primaries for various candidates (Carson, Rubio, and Trump off the top of my head.) throughout the primary season? I'm no trump supporter, but Cruz is a snake.

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Ok, if interested, here is a look at the inside workings of the Republican Party and the intrigue we never see...

Inside the Republican Party’s Desperate Mission to Stop Donald Trump

The scenario Karl Rove outlined was bleak.

Addressing a luncheon of Republican governors and donors in Washington on Feb. 19, he warned that Donald J. Trump’s increasingly likely nomination would be catastrophic, dooming the party in November. But Mr. Rove, the master strategist of George W. Bush’s campaigns, insisted it was not too late for them to stop Mr. Trump, according to three people present.

At a meeting of Republican governors the next morning, Paul R. LePage of Maine called for action. Seated at a long boardroom table at the Willard Hotel, he erupted in frustration over the state of the 2016 race, saying Mr. Trump’s nomination would deeply wound the Republican Party. Mr. LePage urged the governors to draft an open letter “to the people,” disavowing Mr. Trump and his divisive brand of politics.

The suggestion was not taken up. Since then, Mr. Trump has only gotten stronger, winning two more state contests and collecting the endorsement of Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey.

The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, has laid out a plan that would have lawmakers break with Mr. Trump in a general election. Credit Doug Mills/The New York Times
In public, there were calls for the party to unite behind a single candidate. In dozens of interviews, elected officials, political strategists and donors described a frantic, last-ditch campaign to block Mr. Trump — and the agonizing reasons that many of them have become convinced it will fail. Behind the scenes, a desperate mission to save the party sputtered and stalled at every turn.

Efforts to unite warring candidates behind one failed spectacularly: An overture from Senator Marco Rubio to Mr. Christie angered and insulted the governor. An unsubtle appeal from Mitt Romney to John Kasich, about the party’s need to consolidate behind one rival to Mr. Trump, fell on deaf ears.

At least two campaigns have drafted plans to overtake Mr. Trump in a brokered convention, and the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, has laid out a plan that would have lawmakers break with Mr. Trump explicitly in a general election.

Despite all the forces arrayed against Mr. Trump, the interviews show, the party has been gripped by a nearly incapacitating leadership vacuum and a paralytic sense of indecision and despair, as he has won smashing victories in South Carolina and Nevada. Donors have dreaded the consequences of clashing with Mr. Trump directly. Elected officials have balked at attacking him out of concern that they might unintentionally fuel his populist revolt. And Republicans have lacked someone from outside the presidential race who could help set the terms of debate from afar.

The endorsement by Mr. Christie, a not unblemished but still highly regarded figure within the party’s elite — he is a former chairman of the Republican Governors Association — landed Friday with crippling force. It was by far the most important defection to Mr. Trump’s insurgency: Mr. Christie may give cover to other Republicans tempted to join Mr. Trump rather than trying to beat him. Not just the Stop Trump forces seemed in peril, but also the traditional party establishment itself.

Should Mr. Trump clinch the presidential nomination, it would represent a rout of historic proportions for the institutional Republican Party, and could set off an internal rift unseen in either party for a half-century, since white Southerners abandoned the Democratic Party en masse during the civil rights movement.

Former Gov. Michael O. Leavitt of Utah, a top adviser to Mr. Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign, said the party was unable to come up with a united front to quash Mr. Trump’s campaign.

“There is no mechanism,” Mr. Leavitt said. “There is no smoke-filled room. If there is, I’ve never seen it, nor do I know anyone who has. This is going to play out in the way that it will.”

Resistance Runs Deep

Republicans have ruefully acknowledged that they came to this dire pass in no small part because of their own passivity. There were ample opportunities to battle Mr. Trump earlier; more than one plan was drawn up only to be rejected. Rivals who attacked him early, like Rick Perry and Bobby Jindal, the former governors of Texas and Louisiana, received little backup and quickly faded.

Late last fall, the strategists Alex Castellanos and Gail Gitcho, both presidential campaign veterans, reached out to dozens of the party’s leading donors, including the casino magnate Sheldon Adelson and the hedge-fund manager Paul Singer, with a plan to create a “super PAC” that would take down Mr. Trump. In a confidential memo, the strategists laid out the mission of a group they called “ProtectUS.”

“We want voters to imagine Donald Trump in the Big Chair in the Oval Office, with responsibilities for worldwide confrontation at his fingertips,” they wrote in the previously unreported memo. Mr. Castellanos even produced ads portraying Mr. Trump as unfit for the presidency, according to people who saw them and who, along with many of those interviewed, insisted on anonymity to discuss private conversations.

The two strategists, who declined to comment, proposed to attack Mr. Trump in New Hampshire over his business failures and past liberal positions, and emphasized the extreme urgency of their project. A Trump nomination would not only cause Republicans to lose the presidency, they wrote, “but we also lose the Senate, competitive gubernatorial elections and moderate House Republicans.”

No major donors committed to the project, and it was abandoned. No other sustained Stop Trump effort sprang up in its place.

Resistance to Mr. Trump still runs deep. The party’s biggest benefactors remain totally opposed to him. At a recent presentation hosted by the billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch, the country’s most prolific conservative donors, their political advisers characterized Mr. Trump’s record as utterly unacceptable, and highlighted his support for government-funded business subsidies and government-backed health care, according to people who attended.

But the Kochs, like Mr. Adelson, have shown no appetite to intervene directly in the primary with decisive force.

The American Future Fund, a conservative group that does not disclose its donors, announced plans on Friday to run ads blasting Mr. Trump for his role in an educational company that is alleged to have defrauded students. But there is only limited time for the commercials to sink in before some of the country’s biggest states award their delegates in early March.

Instead, Mr. Trump’s challengers are staking their hopes on a set of guerrilla tactics and long-shot possibilities, racing to line up mainstream voters and interest groups against his increasingly formidable campaign. Donors and elected leaders have begun to rouse themselves for the fight, but perhaps too late.

Two of Mr. Trump’s opponents have openly acknowledged that they may have to wrest the Republican nomination from him in a deadlocked convention.

Speaking to political donors in Manhattan on Wednesday evening, Mr. Rubio’s campaign manager, Terry Sullivan, noted that most delegates are bound to a candidate only on the first ballot. Many of them, moreover, are likely to be party regulars who may not support Mr. Trump over multiple rounds of balloting, he added, according to a person present for Mr. Sullivan’s presentation, which was first reported by CNN.

Advisers to Mr. Kasich, the Ohio governor, have told potential supporters that his strategy boils down to a convention battle. Judd Gregg, a former New Hampshire senator who had endorsed Jeb Bush, said Mr. Kasich’s emissaries had sketched an outcome in which Mr. Kasich “probably ends up with the second-highest delegate count going into the convention” and digs in there to compete with Mr. Trump.

Several senior Republicans, including Mr. Romney, have made direct appeals to Mr. Kasich to gauge his willingness to stand down and allow the party to unify behind another candidate. But Mr. Kasich has told at least one person that his plan is to win the Ohio primary on March 15 and gather the party behind his campaign if Mr. Rubio loses in Florida, his home state, on the same day.

In Washington, Mr. Kasich’s persistence in the race has become a source of frustration. At Senate luncheons on Wednesday and Thursday, Republican lawmakers vented about Mr. Kasich’s intransigence, calling it selfishness.

One senior Republican senator, noting that Mr. Kasich has truly contested only one of the first four states, complained: “He’s just flailing his arms around and having a wonderful time going around the country, and it just drives me up the wall.”

Mr. McConnell was especially vocal, describing Mr. Kasich’s persistence as irrational because he has no plausible path to the nomination, several senators said.

While still hopeful that Mr. Rubio might prevail, Mr. McConnell has begun preparing senators for the prospect of a Trump nomination, assuring them that, if it threatened to harm them in the general election, they could run negative ads about Mr. Trump to create space between him and Republican senators seeking re-election. Mr. McConnell has raised the possibility of treating Mr. Trump’s loss as a given and describing a Republican Senate to voters as a necessary check on a President Hillary Clinton, according to senators at the lunches.

He has reminded colleagues of his own 1996 re-election campaign, when he won comfortably amid President Bill Clinton’s easy re-election. Of Mr. Trump, Mr. McConnell has said, “We’ll drop him like a hot rock,” according to his colleagues.

There is still hope that Mr. Rubio might be able to unite much of the party and slow Mr. Trump’s advance in a series of big-state primaries in March, and a host of top elected officials endorsed him over the last week. But Mr. Rubio has struggled to sideline Mr. Kasich and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, who is running a dogged campaign on the right. He has also been unable to win over several of his former rivals who might help consolidate the Republican establishment more squarely behind him.

Mr. Christie had attacked Mr. Rubio contemptuously in New Hampshire, calling him shallow and scripted, and humiliating him in a debate. Nevertheless, Mr. Rubio made a tentative overture to Mr. Christie after his withdrawal from the presidential race. He left the governor a voice mail message, seeking Mr. Christie’s support and assuring him that he had a bright future in public service, according to people who have heard Mr. Christie’s characterization of the message.

Mr. Christie, 53, took the message as deeply disrespectful and patronizing, questioning why “a 44-year-old” was telling him about his future, said people who described his reaction on the condition of anonymity. Further efforts to connect the two never yielded a direct conversation.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, made frequent calls to Mr. Christie once he dropped out, a person close to the governor said. After the two met at Trump Tower on Thursday with their wives, Mr. Christie flew to Texas and emerged on Friday to back Mr. Trump and mock Mr. Rubio as a desperate candidate near the end of a losing campaign.

‘Verging on Panic’

Efforts to reconcile Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush, a former governor of Florida, have been scarcely more successful, dating to before the South Carolina primary, when Mr. Rove reached out to their aides to broker a cease-fire, according to Republicans briefed on the conversations. It did not last.

Mr. Bush has been nearly silent since quitting the race Feb. 20, playing golf with his son Jeb Jr. in Miami and turning to the task of thank-you notes. In a Wednesday conference call with supporters, he did not express a preference among the remaining contenders. When Mr. Rubio called him on Monday, their conversation did not last long, two people briefed on it said, and Mr. Rubio did not ask for his endorsement.

“There’s this desire, verging on panic, to consolidate the field,” said Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a former supporter of Mr. Bush. “But I don’t see any movement at all.”

Mr. Rubio’s advisers were also thwarted in their efforts to secure an endorsement from Mr. Romney, whom they lobbied strenuously after the Feb. 20 South Carolina primary.

Mr. Romney had been eager to tilt the race, and even called Mr. Christie after he ended his campaign to vent about Mr. Trump and say he must be stopped. On the night of the primary, Mr. Romney was close to endorsing Mr. Rubio himself, people familiar with his deliberations said.

Yet Mr. Romney pulled back, instead telling advisers that he would take on Mr. Trump directly. After a Tuesday night dinner with former campaign aides, during which he expressed a sense of horror at the Republican race, Mr. Romney made a blunt demand Wednesday on Fox News: Mr. Trump must release his tax returns to prove he was not concealing a “bombshell” political vulnerability.

Mr. Trump responded only with casual derision, dismissing Mr. Romney on Twitter as “one of the dumbest and worst candidates in the history of Republican politics.”

Mr. Romney is expected to withhold his support before the voting this week on the so-called Super Tuesday, but some of his allies have urged him to endorse Mr. Rubio before Michigan and Idaho vote March 8. Mr. Romney grew up in Michigan, and many Idahoans are fellow Mormons.

But already, a handful of senior party leaders have struck a conciliatory tone toward Mr. Trump. Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the House majority leader, said on television that he believed he could work with him as president. Many in the party acknowledged a growing mood of resignation.

Fred Malek, the finance chairman of the Republican Governors Association, said the party’s mainstream had simply run up against the limits of its influence.

“There’s no single leader and no single institution that can bring a diverse group called the Republican Party together, behind a single candidate,” Mr. Malek said. “It just doesn’t exist.”

On Friday, a few hours after Mr. Christie endorsed him, Mr. Trump collected support from a second governor, who in a radio interview said Mr. Trump could be “one of the greatest presidents.”

That governor was Paul LePage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html

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Share of voting-eligible population to have voted Trump:
IA: 2.0%
NH: 9.7%
SC: 6.5%
NV: 1.8%
A few passionate supporters can go a LONG way.


https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/704022914815934464

If Trump wins the primary, then he will get smashed in the general election. Smashed. Like 1936 Roosevelt versus Landon smashed.


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If you divide those numbers in half you will have the numbers for Rubio and Cruz.

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If you divide those numbers in half you will have the numbers for Rubio and Cruz.



Right, but there are people (like me), who just straight up won't vote for Trump, but will consider voting for Rubio.

Trump is already capped out. Rubio has room for growth.

With that said, both will get walloped in the general election (just Trump more so than Rubio).

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I will believe you if Rubio wins something. Anything. Even his home state of Florida.

While you are at it, look up how many voters have shown up to vote in the Democrat Primaries compared to voters in the Republican Primaries. Republicans are out in force.

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