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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
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The term RINO is another reason we view you conservatives as jokes.


Why, you have the term Blue Dogs, same thing.


That's my first time ever hearing that term.

Like...ever.


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The term RINO is another reason we view you conservatives as jokes.


Why, you have the term Blue Dogs, same thing.


That's my first time ever hearing that term.

Like...ever.


No problem. You're young, you can't have experienced it all. wink


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition


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I have a question for you 40 and I'm not attacking your politics this time. I remember you being very excited when the Republicans took back the majority in congress and saying stuff would get done now. Maybe I lost count but I can't remember anything at all getting done. So my question is how do you feel about his?


My best answer to this is that the Tea Party Republicans were sent in to shut Obama's spending and Liberal agenda down. They did manage to slow it. Success!

The next wave of Republicans came in and they were crushed by the RINO's. Disappointment!

If you actually look at the changes the Republicans tried to make, they were good (from a Republican point of view) but Obama would not negotiate, he would only assure a Veto. Harry Reid would stop anything the House passed by leaving it on his desk in the Senate.

When we Republicans took the Senate and tossed Harry to the dogs, we could finally get these Bills to the Presidents desk.

What angered me the most was the Republicans should have passed those changes and sent them to Obama's desk. Let him Veto them. This would have shown the Republican stance on the issues important to America.

Instead, the RINO's would throw up their hands saying it was a waste of time because Obama was gonna Veto all their hard work anyway. Stupid.

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Hey, I am headed out to vote soon, any suggestions?

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Yes, a write in: 40 for President!


I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party.

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That's pretty rich.

The party who straight up said they were gonna block everything the president tried to do is now crying that Obama won't negotiate with them.

Sucks when you get a taste of your own medicine, huh.

I also find it funny that your leading candidate is willing to blast the pope, then go soft when the KKK is mentioned.

The Republican Party might not be racist, but racist fill the Republican Party.

Have fun watching the first female president in the WH.

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Well Swish thats part of the problem...Rep. didnt block anything they laid down and let Obama have his way.

KKK yeah Trump is a racist...you know youve won when they have to resort to the race card...I dont remember obama being vocal about the black panther party supporting him...that whole issue is stupid.

We shall see if hildog wins...idk if she will...though its a long ways off...she is terrible.

Have fun watching Trump beat your first woman...I was at the Fort Worth rally for Trump it was pretty good...tons of people...I wouldve posted about it...but one of the refs banned me for masked profanity and I'm still not feeling very good about that...after seeing some of things posted on here.

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I'll laugh really hard if Trump squeaks out a win in Texas over the creepy Canadian...and the look on little Rubio will be priceless when Trump beats the crap out of him in Florida.

If the GOPe pulls shenanigans with a brokered convention or supports hillary...like they said they would..the whole rep. party can burn to the ground for all I care...I'll agree with 1 thing you said Swish...the Rep. are a joke and if they keep pulling the kind of crap they are...I wont be voting R anymore..and I know a ton of people that feel the same way.

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We need to get young voters out to the ballot box at midterms. That's what's keeping obstructionism alive. I'm not talking about just keeping the current Dems in there, either. We need more people like Elizabeth Warren in there. Wiener was great, but then he couldn't keep his phone away from his pants.


The government is supposed to be an obstructionist system. It was set up to be this way, so no one party or philosophy could take complete control. We saw what happens when a single party holds the entire government when the democrats held the senate, house, and presidency, and the ACA got passed without opposition, except from within the democrat party. The republicans could do nothing to stop any of it. A good half of the populace or more did not want the law passed, and still do not want the law.

Right now, people are unhappy with the government on both sides. Neither side seems to be listening to the people. Personally, I think the republican party needs to fail, as they are obviously not listening to their constituents. This happened before when the Whig party fell and the republican party was created in the aftermath. As the whigs were just democrat light, they were not truly in opposition to the democrats. The current republican establishment has also become democrat lite, and it will fail if it continues.



Some of what you say I agree with. I don't agree its anyone's job to obstruct and that appears to be the mistake the republicans made.

I think the republicans should have tried to work with Obama on the things they could agree on and work to find common ground on the areas that didn't. In other words make the best of what they had to work with for the good of the country and its people. That's their job that's the reason they are where they are.

No matter whom is elected president the congress MUST bend to the will of the people and by electing Obama his agenda is what the majority of the American people choose whether the republicans liked it or NOT.

It was their duty to work with him, and they failed and that has them on the ropes and ready to implode. Now you take on the tact that 40 has taken and believe that somehow your smarter and better positioned to make the right choices but no matter what you have got to respect the vote and the office. The republicans gave up the high ground when their only goal their only idea was to sabotage the vote and the will of the people.

That is the point the republicans have missed and continue to miss.

They also failed to take ownership of their mistakes and its something they continue to do. The war in Iraq was a mistake only a complete and total idiot wouldn't realize it, and only a complete idiot wouldn't take their lessons from it. Again the republicans are failing themselves and us, and those that are ingrained in the party are pissed because they realize that their leadership is failing and they want change.

They didn't push ideas forward to make the country better they pushed forward one idea "obstruct". Any progress we could have made was pushed to the side in favor of doing nothing and hoping and praying that our president would fail, and it didn't work, and now they are about to get their reward.

From the very beginning the republicans hated Obama and refused to work with him in spite of the fact he was the duly elected president of the country. Obama took his lead from the republicans and the country suffered as a result.

What really is happening here is the American people are saying NO MORE learn to work together and play nice, you don't have to like each other but we damned well expect you to do what is best for us and our country, no excuses.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Hey, I am headed out to vote soon, any suggestions?

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Cruz.


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Ok, it's done. Just voted and picked up a Hoggie, Sub, Grinder, or whatever your part of the Country calls the danged thing.

Here in Virginia, we can vote for anyone we want, from either party. No Republican, No Democrat labels at all. I got my ballot and it had everyone listed, pick one.

I feel so Murican and they gave me an "I Voted" sticker for my jacket!

I am now eating my mmmyff dorf slurp...

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You mean a sandwich?


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Glad you're back posting.


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The Mexicans are rapist and murderers!!

All the Muslims need to stay out of the country!!!

The kkk? Welll...I need to know more about the group before jumping to conclusions.


Yea bro, what an awesome candidate.


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March 15th is Zombie day in Illinois. Where the dead come back to life to vote.


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Yea, and your guy Obama...

-The Right clings to their guns and bibles!

-His people in the IRS targeted Republican groups and our First Amendment Rights by trying to silence our free speech!

-He has targeted and continues to assault our 2nd Amendment Rights!

-He has supported the spying of his NSA!

-He has purged the Military of many of its leaders!

-He has had his FBI go after and end the career of General Petraeus for doing less with his emails than Hillary ever did. He continues to put the hold on charging or indicting Her!

Give me a break!

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Originally Posted By: Swish
The Mexicans are rapist and murderers!!

All the Muslims need to stay out of the country!!!

The kkk? Welll...I need to know more about the group before jumping to conclusions.


Yea bro, what an awesome candidate.


Can we stop playing the race card.....

Stop being a fool! Race is nothing more then a wedge used to pit us all against one another...don't you get it...government and people in power use such things as race to keep division between us so we will always fight and bicker among ourselves instead of trying to solve the real problems.

The "Establishment" is pulling the race card against Trump to try and derail his campaign because Trump is the only candidate thats not in their pockets...Trump has so much money there is nothing they can offer him that he doesn't already have...the face he has refused to take any money from any Super PAc or any group is just huge....

Trump is not your enemy...Trump wants to give YOU the tools and means to succeed on your own individual merits...Trump wants Swish to succeed NOT as an African American, he wants you to succeed AS AN AMERICAN

This hyphenated american nonsense needs to go and Trump is the 1st step in that direction. Look i know change is scary, but Trump is going to really shake things up big time. its a good thing.

We all need to stop fighting over things like race..these are things that are used by the ruling class to pit us against one another...to create division, we need to get past it...were all Americans here...we need to stop this nonsense. It can be overcome, but its up to us to do it. Using it such as the way you did is not a step in a positive forward direction.

I didn't even know David Duke was even still alive until yesterday, I thought that guy died back in the late 90's. Its fully possible Trump didn't know...i mean looking up White Supremacist propoganda is not exactly on every normal white persons saturday night agenda....if i thought he had been dead for years, think about how many Americans probably had never even heard of the guy till a few days ago....just saying

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so i post something that actually came out of your boy's mouth.

and you respond by posting conspiracy theories.

ok. who are you voting for again? Carson? did you already vote? did he save you some of that grain thats in the pyramids, too?


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yea....i disagree with all that.

tell people like me who have been harassed by the cops that race isn't important.

and we've already debunked the "donald trump doesn't know who he is" rhetoric.

he knows 100% who he is. people have already posted links of trump talking about the guy.

everybody knows he's alive and well.

so you can go on all you want about trump.

the reality is for me, and other minorties, that this trump thing with the kkk is a major deal.

so hoorah that you don't care. good for you, pat yourself on the back.

but i do. and others do. the liberals do.

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Originally Posted By: Knight_Of_Brown

Look i know change is scary, but Trump is going to really shake things up big time. its a good thing.


The wisest thing I have read since Swish started posting. thumbsup

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I feel like that post is a parody of a person who actually supports Trump.

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Look i know change is scary, but Trump is going to really shake things up big time. its a good thing.


The wisest thing I have read since Swish started posting. thumbsup


you saw what happened to your boys at the rally in cali right?

trump supporters, obviously.


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As you know, I am really into this election thang. I have spent months talking to people from around the Nation about it as well as on these Boards. Here is what I have found...

Most Republicans and surprisingly many many life long Democrats have told me the same thing in private...

You can't speak up in support of Trump because people will jump all over you for it. It is not a risk they want to take in these PC times.

They say they will remain silent but will line up to vote for Trump because he is not a politician, he is a successful Businessman who has lived the American Dream and now sees that dream becoming a nightmare. He intends to fix the entire system from top to bottom, for his children's future and the future of our entire Nation.

They intend to finally have their say with a Vote for Trump.

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This election is exactly why we need to get away from the 2 party system and hopefully this shake up will do exactly that.

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Trump. or Drumpf, as your actual name is allegedly suppose to be, Clinton wants nothing more than for you or Cruz to be the GOP candidate running against her.

Donald Trump Says He Is the 'One Person' Hillary Clinton Doesn't Want to Run Against

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Donald Trump today brushed off a new poll that indicates he would lose against Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, saying he is the “one person” Clinton doesn't want to face.

"I haven't even focused on Hillary Clinton," the Republican front-runner told "Good Morning America."

“I can tell you the one person that Hillary Clinton doesn't want to run against is me."

In the CNN-ORC poll released Monday, the New York real estate mogul would fall to Clinton, 52-44, while his main rivals, Sen. Marco Rubio and Sen. Ted Cruz, come out ahead of the Democratic front-runner by razor-thin margins.

“They’re [Rubio and Cruz] not going to get the nomination,” Trump said. “I will beat Hillary Clinton much more easily than anybody else.”

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Trump also addressed the controversial support from former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke, saying he “disavowed” Duke Friday before the weekend dustup.

“I disavow him every time I speak to somebody virtually,” Trump said.

When asked today by ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos whether he was prepared to make a clear statement renouncing all white supremacists, Trump responded, saying, “Of course, I am.”

He added: “There’s nobody that’s done so much for equality as I have.”

Trump went on to say he is not worried about splitting the Republican Party. “The party is going to get bigger,” Trump reiterated this morning. “The Republican Party is growing larger.”


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This election is exactly why we need to get away from the 2 party system and hopefully this shake up will do exactly that.


i agree that we need political reform, but this won't be the election to do it.

What would've needed to happen is that Cruz or Rubio wins the GOP Bid, Clinton wins the Democratic Bid...

But then Trump really does run as an independent, AS WELL as Sanders, and they would've had to run all the way until general election time.

THAT would've shaken up the political spectrum, especially if they ran under a parties name instead of just the "I" label.


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Hillary's biggest threat was Bernie, but he failed to get his message out for all to digest.

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So, as I said earlier today, I Voted.

I had the choice in Virginia of ALL candidates, Rep and Dem.

I would be interested to hear who y'all think I voted for.

I will announce my Vote at 4pm Eastern time.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So, as I said earlier today, I Voted.

I had the choice in Virginia of ALL candidates, Rep and Dem.

I would be interested to hear who y'all think I voted for.

I will announce my Vote at 4pm Eastern time.


You voted for Sanders, because you think that he will be easier for the Republicans to beat and/or because the longer he stays in, the longer Hillary will have to run to the left.

Edited to add the "and/or".

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I asked psychologists to analyze Trump supporters. This is what I learned.

By Max Ehrenfreund October 15, 2015


CALL him whatever names you like. A clown. A Know Nothing. A political greenhorn who can barely complete a sentence. A nativist, a racist and -- worse -- a New York liberal with a comb-over.

You can call him a blowhard if you want, but -- to the consternation of the conservative elite and to the surprise of just about everybody else inside the Beltway -- Donald Trump won't blow off.

The press mocked his rambling, hour-long speech at the launch of his campaign, in which he disparaged Mexican immigrants as "rapists." Few thought he could remain popular after saying that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), imprisoned for more than five years in Vietnam after his plane was shot down, was "not a war hero." Political scientists forecast that Trump would fade.

But as the summer of Trump lingers into autumn, the real estate magnate remains the front-runner in the Republican presidential primary. The political establishment is flummoxed, and at least one of its members has concluded that Trump's supporters are just insane.

"What he did was, he fired up the crazies," McCain said after Trump held a rally in Phoenix.

The GOP still can't do much about Trump, even after he calls for banning Muslims

From a psychological perspective, though, the people backing Trump are perfectly normal. Interviews with psychologists and other experts suggest one explanation for the candidate's success -- and for the collective failure to anticipate it: The political elite hasn't confronted a few fundamental, universal and uncomfortable facts about the human mind.


- We like people who talk big.

- We like people who tell us that our problems are simple and easy to solve, even when they aren't.

- And we don't like people who don't look like us.



Most people share these characteristics to some degree, but they seem to be especially prevalent among Trump's base. Trump's appeal certainly has other sources, too, such as the nostalgia he so skillfully evokes, his financial independence from special interests, and the crucial fact that he had his own reality TV show. Some Republicans like Trump's anti-establishment approach. And many support Trump because of his substantive positions -- his views on immigration, his antipathy toward China, his defense of Social Security, or his opposition to tax deductions for wealthy bankers.


But given the gap between public support for Trump and elite opinion, it may be worth thinking about the ingrained predilections for confidence, simplicity and familiarity that are just a few of the reasons that psychologists gave when asked to explain exactly how Trump got yuge.

"Really, we're not giving people enough credit," argues John Hibbing, a psychologist at the University of Nebraska, Lincoln. "We have to take this seriously. You can look down your nose if you want to, but these people aren't going away."


We like big talkers


"If you're running for president, you should not be allowed to use a teleprompter," Trump likes to say. He doesn't on the stump. As a result, his typical speech is a congeries of tangents and digressions.

Even if Trump showed any strong inclination to speak in complete and eloquent sentences, though, his wildly cheering crowds wouldn't let him finish one.

Trump doesn't give the kinds of speeches that political consultants are used to hearing. He certainly doesn't deliver lines that are carefully formulated for applause and for prime-time sound bites. His style has been called a "word salad."

Still, he is an effective speaker, psychologists say. In fact, decades of research show that charisma has more to do with a person's demeanor than what he or she is saying, says Stanford University's Jeffrey Pfeffer.

In one series of well-known experiments conducted by the psychologists Nalini Ambady and Robert Rosenthal, subjects were able to predict how students in a college classroom would evaluate their teachers at the end of the term, based on 30 seconds or less of soundless footage of the instructor. The subjects in the study couldn't hear the words coming out of the instructor's mouth, but what mattered for the students was gesture and affect, not substance.

Voters listening to politicians on television are just like the students in those classrooms, says Pfeffer, a psychologist who studies leadership.

"Most of the electorate would not pass a test on what anybody's positions are on anything," he said. "Nobody cares." Conservative voters, for instance, seem not to mind Trump's favorable comments on national health insurance and eminent domain.


What can win over voters is what Pfeffer called "narcissism."

"They're responding to dynamism, to force, to movement, to smiling, to facial expressions that convey authority," he said. Trump "does it with more force. He does it with more energy. Energy is contagious."

Arie Kruglanski, a psychologist at the University of Maryland, compares Trump's campaign to President Obama's in 2008. The two men have different styles, but both have animated their supporters with confident claims about the future.

"It's the audacity of those promises in those circumstances that really carries a lot of weight," Kruglanski said, "and it's the emotional, as opposed to the kind of deliberative, rational appeal that carries the day."

Both conservative and liberal voters can be susceptible to this kind of thinking. In other ways, though, psychologists believe that conservative and liberal minds work differently, which could help explain Trump's success with Republicans.


We want answers


The world can feel like a complicated place. There may be no good answers to the problems we confront individually and as a society. It is hard to know whom or what to believe. Things are changing, and the future might be different in unpredictable ways. For many people, this uncertainty is deeply unpleasant.

"People are just inclined to say, 'Okay, to hell with it. I'm not going to figure it out,' " Kruglanski said.

That desire is especially strong among social conservatives, research shows. They want answers, more so than other people.

One way that psychologists measure these preferences is by giving people a questionnaire that poses statements such as, "It's annoying to listen to someone who cannot seem to make up his or her mind," "I dislike it when a person's statement could mean many different things" and "In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong."

Conservative subjects are more likely to agree with these statements, whether psychologists give this test in the United States, Germany, Italy, Belgium or Poland.


Over the years, conservative commentators have objected to this characterization of their beliefs. They argue that conservatism isn't a psychological condition, but a set of ideas with a rich intellectual history, developed across generations through rational deliberation.

For their part, psychologists have responded that they aren't dismissing conservativism as irrational. After all, just because people are predisposed to believe something doesn't make them wrong. Saying someone is more likely to find an argument persuasive because of their psychology doesn't invalidate the argument. As psychologists see it, the desire for simplicity is just a fact about the way people think — one that several decades of research has now confirmed.

Hibbing of the University of Nebraska says this need for clarity is important to understanding Trump's support.

"People like the idea that deep down, the world is simple; that they can grasp it and that politicians can't," Hibbing said. "That's certainly a message that I think Trump is radiating."

Hibbing believes there may be a genetic reason for the differences between liberal and conservative minds, but the explanation is more of a hypothesis than a conclusion.

At Hibbing's laboratory, he and his colleagues study how conservative and liberal subjects react to unpleasant images, such as insects and injuries. They use cameras to track the motion of their subjects' eyes and place electrodes on their skin. Other researchers study the contractions of facial muscles and electrical activity in the brain.

These experiments show that conservative subjects react differently from liberal ones. They sweat more heavily when shown a picture of a dangerous animal. Their pupils focus on disgusting images, and they don't look away.

It's evidence that we don't develop political affiliations just by rationally evaluating competing philosophies and ideologies. Our opinions also have origins beneath the level of conscious thought, in our bodies and our brains.

In that sense, the desire for simplicity could be physical. And Trump has a way of responding to complicated questions as though the answers were so obvious, he is dumbfounded that no one else has figured them out yet.


A recent interview with Bloomberg News reveals this approach.

After nearly allowing himself to be drawn into a debate about whether women should be able to have abortions early in their pregnancies, he brushed the question aside.

"I'm pro-life, but with the caveats. It's: Life of the mother (very important), incest and rape," Trump said.

"Say a woman is pregnant, and it's not in any of those exception categories and she chooses to have an abortion," Bloomberg's Mark Halperin said.

"It depends when," said Trump, interrupting him.

"Let's say, early in her pregnancy," Halperin said.

Trump did not answer the question about timing. Perhaps he realized he was about to enmesh himself in nuance.

"Mark, it's very simple," he said. "Pro-life."

And Trump just dismisses experts on security who say his plans to build a wall along remote stretches of the Mexican border would be extremely expensive, if not practically impossible.

The wall "is absolutely buildable and can be built for far less cost than people think," he said when asked about these criticisms. "It's not even a difficult project if you know what you’re doing."


We put ourselves into groups


Following Obama's victory in his last election, the Republican National Committee produced a report calling on the party to do a better job of appealing to voters of color, especially Hispanic voters. More specifically, the Republican Party has long argued that if the economy is larger, everyone will be better off. Republican proponents of immigration reform often cite studies predicting substantial gains in economic performance.

Trump has done the reverse, appealing to people who could be especially averse to the presence of immigrants in their communities. The notion that improving the lives of immigrants would also help people living here already is profoundly counterintuitive, experts say, and that could be one reason that so many people find Trump's anti-immigration rhetoric so persuasive.

"Humans have a kind of tribal psychology," said Joseph Henrich, a biologist at Harvard University who studies the species's evolution.

In particular, humans tend to assume that if one group is getting more, another group must be getting less. We have a hard time understanding that two groups can both be getting more of something at the same time. Call it a cognitive blindspot, or a psychological illusion.

Henrich believes this zero-sum outlook could be a result of millennia of competition among our ancestors for limited resources such as land and mating partners. "You can find some degree of it in every human society," he said. "It varies dramatically across societies and populations, but it does pop up everywhere."

There is also evidence that this possibly ancient predisposition is shaping American politics today. Michael Norton, a psychologist at the Harvard Business School, has found that on average, whites now view discrimination against members of their own race as a larger problem than discrimination against blacks.

His explanation is that whites see competition between groups as zero sum. Whites assume that they must be worse off, since the legal and economic situation for blacks has improved. Research also suggests that white voters with stronger prejudices against African Americans are more likely to support the conservative GOP faction known as the tea party.

Norton speculates that antipathy toward Latino immigrants has the same psychological source.

"What Trump is tapping into is the mindset of a zero-sum game," Norton said, which he called an "intuitive" way of looking at the economy and society.

"It's hard to imagine that if we're eating a pizza, that adding more people would somehow give us more pizza. It takes a much-longer-term perspective," Norton said.

The presence of immigrants could also compound other psychological responses, such as how conservatives deal with uncertainty. Kruglanski of the University of Maryland and his colleagues found that in the Netherlands, residents were less comfortable with uncertainty the more Muslims lived in their neighborhoods.

While immigration is good for the economy on the whole, there is some evidence that it can reduce the wages of unskilled workers born in the country. Trump draws heavily on less educated, blue-collar white voters for his support. Some people in this group may be right to see immigration as a zero-sum game.

Economists fiercely debate this point, but in any case, their arguments probably have less influence over voters than do the facts of human psychology.


It's not just Trump, but human nature


Trump has lost several percentage points in the polls recently. Maybe the infatuation is wearing thin, or maybe not. Either way, his candidacy has already revealed something important about this country, about the Republican Party and, above all, about who we are as people.

To win the nomination, he will have to win over some voters who now support his rivals, which he might not be able to do. If Trump can't gain support, though, he may also not lose it, either. He is, in part, the product and the image of our species's unconscious and its unchanging predispositions.

Human nature, though, is not destiny -- or so argues Hibbing of the University of Nebraska. Our innate propensities can be overcome through persuasion and principled leadership in the long term, he said.

He compares the human mind to an ocean-going tanker. Changing the ship's direction takes time, and a map with the new course clearly marked. Instead of dismissing them as crazies, political leaders will have to acknowledge their constituents' biases against all that is complex, uncertain and unfamiliar.

"I don't think we can pretend that that's not who we are," Hibbing said.


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So, as I said earlier today, I Voted.

I had the choice in Virginia of ALL candidates, Rep and Dem.

I would be interested to hear who y'all think I voted for.

I will announce my Vote at 4pm Eastern time.


This is very self-important.

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I actually thought it more fun than anything. I have been doing a lot of spouting off about various candidates.

So who do you think I ended up voting for?

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I actually thought it more fun than anything. I have been doing a lot of spouting off about various candidates.


And various other things that don't make a lot of sense.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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I actually thought it more fun than anything. I have been doing a lot of spouting off about various candidates.


So what's the point of announcing that after watching the last debate you were making your "final" decision (it was Kasich) and then after that saying you were going to vote for Rubio?

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Says you.

So who would you guess I ended up voting for?

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"His explanation is that whites see competition between groups as zero sum. Whites assume that they must be worse off, since the legal and economic situation for blacks has improved. Research also suggests that white voters with stronger prejudices against African Americans are more likely to support the conservative GOP faction known as the tea party."

*looks around at different post in different threads*

huh..you don't say?


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Says you.

So who would you guess I ended up voting for?


Don't care.

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Says you.

So who would you guess I ended up voting for?


Trump.


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Says you.

So who would you guess I ended up voting for?


Don't care.



Stick in the mud.

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