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Libertarians are going to be the next big thing. They just havent had much publicity because the money isnt there yet.
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I think you just nailed it again. 
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I hope so. It would be nice to have some compromise between the two extremes.
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Libertarians are going to be the next big thing. They just havent had much publicity because the money isnt there yet. I started paying attention to them about 20 years ago. I like their basics: fiscal responsibility/personal responsibility/gov't out of our social lives. BUT- they have run some candidates who kept me at arm's length. I think you're right... and I think that the Trump/Sanders groundswell is a harbinger of the discontent felt by a growing class of American voters. Peeps on both sides of the R/D debate are ticked... and ready for something else..
"too many notes, not enough music-"
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Seems they are hurt a lot because their candidates are a bunch of nobodies. I think they have one candidate who is a former gov/Sen.
The problem with this party is they don't have any money. I am sure if they did they could come up with a candidate people could rally around.
So mostly they need to do some marketing. Get the word out.
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When he had his hand on Donald's face, did I hear Trump say, hey, watch the hair. 
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The trouble with a third party is if they lean a little left, they split the Democrat vote giving victory to the Republicans and vise versa.
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It depends A strong third party candidate in a compromising position would take votes from both R&D.
It just depends on the candidate.
Trump is a very liberal republican. He takes voters from both parties.
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I agree, a strong candidate would make the dif.
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Certain things make me question Libertarian thought. Many of those candidates argue the Civil Rights Act was useless, and it shouldn't have even been allowed.
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They would have to have a candidate who was compromising. The wacky ones obviously would not be prime time material.
The thing about the libertarian party is that there are left leaning ones and right leaning ones. So they would have to find the candidate that compromises both sides.
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It doesn't seem necessary today does it?
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They would have to have a candidate who was compromising. The wacky ones obviously would not be prime time material.
The thing about the libertarian party is that there are left leaning ones and right leaning ones. So they would have to find the candidate that compromises both sides. In America? Ha, good luck with that. 
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It's not that hard. My philosophy is a compromise.
I am:
Pro choice
Pro drug
Pro gay marriage
I want a smaller hands off government.
There are very many people who are socially progressive and fiscally conservative.
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Oh dear, looks like I will be voting Republican for a long long time.
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Lol I never had any doubts on your position. :-)
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It's not that hard. My philosophy is a compromise.
I am:
Pro choice
Pro drug
Pro gay marriage
I want a smaller hands off government.
There are very many people who are socially progressive and fiscally conservative. I'd love to see the country start shifting in that direction. It's my view that it embraces the best part of both parties and rids us of the freedom robbing negatives.
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So Clinton's and surrogates are chest thumping and crowing like game cocks over her wins in the states that will fall to Republicans in the general. Meanwhile Sanders is showing he can win in the purple swing states and other than a few more mild bumps in the road is expected to have strong showings in the primaries between now and the 15th.
Hillary has a few more locks and after that has to battle in very progressive states; I think they are trying to pressure Sander's supporters into giving up on him. NOT GOING TO WORK HILLDAWG!
Sander's is still very much in this race boys and girls, get the popcorn.
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Rubio is dead. Fox News stopped their support. I'd expect an all Trump push for here on out.
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It's not that hard. My philosophy is a compromise.
I am:
Pro choice
Pro drug
Pro gay marriage
I want a smaller hands off government.
There are very many people who are socially progressive and fiscally conservative. We need to run together, on a unified ticket. It could work.....
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I heard the best argument yet for electing Trump.. you know why nobody messes with North Korea? Because their leader is a lunatic... you know why nobody messes with Iran? Because their leader is a lunatic... maybe if we had a lunatic, people would stop messing with us... imagine a lunatic with our level of fire power at his disposal... ISIS might give up.  LOL well, I guess there's that. The thing is, I don't think countries skip messing with North Korea or Iran because they have lunatic leaders. Nobody is afraid of them, it's just not good common sense to poke the bear if you don't have to. LOL
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The guy's an arrogant buffoon, but the hate toward him is off the charts. Years ago, he just would have been laughed at....but then again, he probably wouldn't have been a factor this late in the game.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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I’m sorry but I think some of you are way to focused on the candidates and miss out on the underlying problem of corruption on both sides of the current candidates, with the acceptation that is of Bernie.
We, all of us regardless of party need to become fixated and focused on ending legal corruption.
Tump hasn’t vowed to end legal bribery and has been an active participant on the donor side and has gone so far as to brag about doing it.
Hillary, and her husband have been active participants and beneficiaries of legal corruption for decades and use the excuse that everyone else does it for a comeback. It’s disturbing to me that she is so damned unapologetic about her active role in legal bribery. She is NOT a democratic candidate I would vote for if given a choice.
I give a great many within the republican party (voters) high marks for seeing that this is the fundamental problem in their party and latching onto anyone and anything that is counter to the same old same old, can’t get anything done because those within their party are bought and paid for, the democrats need to do the same and Hillary is not that person.
Regardless of party, I believe every American that cares about their country needs to demand that PAC and special interest money needs to end. Honesty or as much as you can get from either party needs to begin here. I would ask of each of you that there be a demand placed on your parties’ candidate to end this practice once and for all.
I truly believe in order to move forward with any cause regardless of party integrity begins within each party by ending bribery.
None of us likes the idea or wants to believe that corruption is our biggest problem we have, but it is.
I would implore all of you to do your part to demand an end to this practice, now is as good a time as ever. PLEASE DO IT, demand that it end.
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Maybe we should build Trumps wall, just around DC and not let anyone out. You forgot to fill it with water.
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Maybe we should build Trumps wall, just around DC and not let anyone out. You forgot to fill it with water. I'm telling you, we need to have a way to hold politicians accountable.
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I read this the other day:
Diapers and politicians need to be changed often for the same reason.
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You have to first convince the majority of Americans that there is even a problem that requires political reform.
Because while it sounds good, the reality of the situation is that very few people vote based off who's the best. People absolutely vote based off party, unless there's a unicorn on the other side that just makes sense.
Right now, people have bought into the fear mongering, so political reform won't be happening soon.
Both parties, with the help of the media, have convinced the people to be scared of everything.
Can't go outside cause you'll be shot and robbed. Can't send your kids to school because there's school shootings. You better keep an eye on your Muslim neighbors because they are most likely terrorist.
Anybody with a brown skin tone? They're illegal. Black? Oh he's a drug dealer. Do you really want little Timmy potentially hangin out with the blacks or Mexicans?
The parties are providing safety and security. People are giving up their rights left and right because of the illusion of feeing safe.
You saw how quick people collectively didn't give a damn about Edward Snowden? That whole thing lasted maybe a month, and people went back to business as usual.
People don't wanna hear the government spending more money to benefit the people. But won't say a word when they do something that "keeps us safe".
"Obama is raising our national debt!!!!"
"Oh, congress just increased the defense budget? We gotta stay safe!!!"
Americans have gotten too comfortable with our lifestyles. Reform and revolutions won't be happening anytime soon.
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I’m sorry but I think some of you are way to focused on the candidates and miss out on the underlying problem of corruption on both sides of the current candidates, with the acceptation that is of Bernie.
We, all of us regardless of party need to become fixated and focused on ending legal corruption.
Tump hasn’t vowed to end legal bribery and has been an active participant on the donor side and has gone so far as to brag about doing it.
Hillary, and her husband have been active participants and beneficiaries of legal corruption for decades and use the excuse that everyone else does it for a comeback. It’s disturbing to me that she is so damned unapologetic about her active role in legal bribery. She is NOT a democratic candidate I would vote for if given a choice.
I give a great many within the republican party (voters) high marks for seeing that this is the fundamental problem in their party and latching onto anyone and anything that is counter to the same old same old, can’t get anything done because those within their party are bought and paid for, the democrats need to do the same and Hillary is not that person.
Regardless of party, I believe every American that cares about their country needs to demand that PAC and special interest money needs to end. Honesty or as much as you can get from either party needs to begin here. I would ask of each of you that there be a demand placed on your parties’ candidate to end this practice once and for all.
I truly believe in order to move forward with any cause regardless of party integrity begins within each party by ending bribery.
None of us likes the idea or wants to believe that corruption is our biggest problem we have, but it is.
I would implore all of you to do your part to demand an end to this practice, now is as good a time as ever. PLEASE DO IT, demand that it end.
Now there is something I can agree with you on BTBB!
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We ALL or most of us agree that corruption within the political system is a huge problem, and at the least I think most folks embrace the idea we need to end the practice.
At some point it will come to everyone that it is the root cause of our problems, maybe now isn't that time, I don't know, but the sooner we end its practice the sooner we can get on with the peoples business.
When people reach the conclusion that MONEY in politics strikes directly at the heart of our problems and is the reason we can't move the country forward they'll demand change until then my warning if you will to all is expect more of the same.
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I read this the other day:
Diapers and politicians need to be changed often for the same reason. There are two groups of folks that don't want term limits.. Politicians and the ones who own them.
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The guy's an arrogant buffoon, but the hate toward him is off the charts. Years ago, he just would have been laughed at....but then again, he probably wouldn't have been a factor this late in the game. When the Trump thing started he had his anti-government supporters and most people just kind of laughed at him... as his campaign has hung in there and grown and become a serious contender, the supporters have grown and dug their heels in regardless of the outlandish things he says and with his detractors, the humor and novelty of it has turned to anger and hatred. And I don't think all of the anger is for Donald Trump.. yea, that's where it's directed but I think a lot of it is indirectly pointed at his supporters as in..... how can anybody support this?
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how can anybody support this? I can answer that. What has a government approved and media supported politician done for you lately? A kiss and a promise before a good buggering?
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how can anybody support this? I can answer that. What has a government approved and media supported politician done for you lately? A kiss and a promise before a good buggering? I was having this conversation the other day... I feel like a Jew around the time of Christ... They were hoping the Messiah would come, they were sure he would come in the form of a warrior to deliver them, then He came in the form of a simple servant preaching love and faith and trust..... I was hoping the anti-government candidate would come, I was hoping he would be preaching love and faith and trust, instead he's a loudmouthed, obnoxious, arrogant warrior-wanna-be... who knows, maybe it will turn out differently than I expect it to.
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Everyone watch today as the Republican Establishment goes after Trump with both barrels.
I think they have finally come to the conclusion it is better to risk having Trump run as an Independent, giving victory to the Democrats, than having him win as a Republican.
Today they unleash the Dogs. Send in the MITT!
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I think they have finally come to the conclusion it is better to risk having Trump run as an Independent, giving victory to the Democrats, than having him win as a Republican. And they might be right. Having Hillary win would absolutely suck and would cost the republicans 4 more years without the Whitehouse... having Donald win and continue his cartoonish behavior could alienate many republicans and fracture the party for decades... just a thought.
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I told you already dude. The party is a train wreck.
I mean, why can't the GOP just trow their support behind him. He's clearly what the conservative people want. When Obama came up, the DNC just rolled with it. Because that's what the people wanted.
That's why I continue to say, you guys aren't gonna sniff the WH. Y'all can't even get along with your party, never mind gettin along with everybody else. The GOP really needs to figure this out.
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I told you already dude. The party is a train wreck.
I mean, why can't the GOP just trow their support behind him. He's clearly what the conservative people want. When Obama came up, the DNC just rolled with it. Because that's what the people wanted.
That's why I continue to say, you guys aren't gonna sniff the WH. Y'all can't even get along with your party, never mind gettin along with everybody else. The GOP really needs to figure this out. With the constitution that they have never read nor do they remotely understand in one hand they fail at its most basic concept. They serve at and for the will of people. They believe that sense they speak to God they are right even when they are wrong. And while they profess to know more then the rest of us about everything they fail to realize that this attitude or belief that they talk to God therefore all they do is correct has worn thin on the country and their voting block. Bye Bye, and quite frankly good riddance.
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So Trump is beating the GOP by their own rules, he's lived up to his pledge and the GOP isn't going to live up to their end?
So they send out two time loser Romney to try and bring the voters back to their senses? This is just going to empower Trump more.
The GOP is a train wreck.
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