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HA! You judging me, priceless!

I think it's simply a tool to control the masses and gain power.

Takes one to know one, 40.

Yet they are the first to wail and gnash their teeth, Yelling, Bigots and Racists! when others do the same.

Hypocrites!

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Takes one to know one, 40.

HYPOCRITES!

Looks like they ran out of things to say so we are back to the silly pictures again.

Good Job in representing us LA!

You need to open your eyes to the world a little more.

There are Christians who walk around in flowing robes and eloquently speak the Word of God.

There are Christians who have suffered greatly and walk with their heads down, quietly, as they get through the day.

There are Christians who lead Nations and must represent everyone.

There Christians who are Military Leaders who must kill the enemy or die.

There are Christians who have never gotten their hands dirty and those who work as Mechanics, up to their butts in grease.

There are the Christians who make a great show of their faith as they take the best seat at dinner. There are also Christians who clear the plates and do the dishes.

Stop trying to put all Christians into your own neat little box. We will never fit.

It's OK though, you'll soon get your wish. christian affiliation is down almost 8% between 2007-2014.

Stop persecuting him!

Looks like they ran out of things to say so we are back to the silly pictures again.

Good Job in representing us LA!

Indeed

Who said the devil punishes bad people?

I have read a lot, though not all of this thread. Swish's comments about how different so called sects of Christianity don't get along stood out.

In some ways, this is true.

We have had some churches move away from the Bible as the basis for their teachings. Obviously there are differences there, and in fact, major differences.

Back in the distant past, when the Catholic (which means "universal") Church began to go off the rails, there were some who split from the Church. Calvin, Wesley, and others are perfect examples of these splits, and they had solid, theological reasons for doing so.

Wesley, (and others) for example, disagreed with the Catholic Church's stands on translating the Bible so that people could actually read God's Word for themselves. Other major differences were over so called indulgences, the practice of confession and doing penance, and other important theological matters.

These issues do put a wedge between some denominations.

There are other so-called Christian churches who d anything but follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. They never crack open their Bibles, and instead follow whatever the "spirit" tells them to do ..... even if the things they do completely violate the teachings of the Bible. These churches call themselves Christian, but they really are not, because they do not follow Christ. The Presbyterian Church USA, Lutherans, Episcopal Church, United Church of Christ, (ironic name there) and others are in this category. They have stances and positions that are in direct contradiction to the Bible, and the teachings of Jesus Christ. They cannot be followers of Christ,(which is what Christian means) and violate Christ's teachings.

How can a Christian church that believes in the Bible, and in the teachings of Christ, say that a church that violates these ideals is "Christian"? There is no way.

There are many denominations of Christianity that are very similar. The Methodists, (my church, which, Thank God, has a strong Biblically based African contingent, which keeps the church from giving in on certain social issues that violate the Bible)) Presbyterian Church PCA, Baptist Church, and others are similar in many ways. They may have some minor differences in wording of some things, or in the way certain sacraments are performed, but overall, they have similar Bible beliefs.

So, there are some denominations that are very similar, and are based on the Bible, others that are similar to one another, and which follow the Bible in some things, and others that just do whatever they want, no matter what the Bible says. There is no way that some of these churches can agree with one another, when they disagree on theology at such a core level.

I think that churches who have similar beliefs do get along really well. Prior to the Lutheran Church endorsing gay marriage, the Lutheran and Methodist churches allowed members of clergy to preach on each other's churches. I am not sure if this has changed after the Lutherans went in favor of endorsing gay marriage or not, but it shows how denominations can cooperate. My Pastor, from when I was a kid, was a Pastor for a Reformed Presbyterian Church. He retired, but decided that he wanted to continue in service to God, and so he took over a small Methodist church. He didn't have to be "retrained" or anything, as the 2 churches agree on theology.

Churches that agree on theology get along just fine. Churches that go completely off the rails as far as theology is concerned have difficulty getting along with churches that remained based on the teachings of the Bible. These churches that go their won ways lead people astray, and away from the Word of God. There is no reason for a church that believes in the Bible to want to cooperate with them in any way whatsoever. Why would they, when they contradict the very Faith in which they believe?

Who said the devil punishes bad people?

It was a joke, just like 40's eating popcorn posts are a joke. At least I hope his posts are, otherwise he's on his way to becoming a diabetic.

The whole concept of debate between religion and non-religion is impossible. Regardless of ones deeply held convictions, religion always boils down to faith. And so arguments that attempt to prove the existence of any religion becomes a fallacy because the authority on the argument is faith. If someone feels that the Bible is right because they have faith in God, that's fine. But faith by definition is belief in something for which there is no proof. The debate at its core, is both sides trying to prove something that cannot be proven. I can't prove God doesn't exist any more than you can. This is why I'm agnostic, and not straight up atheist.

I try to stick to what is observable and testable. I asked several pages ago for an example of how ID works, even if we threw away all scientific discovery on evolution. I haven't gotten a scientific answer for it. I have a hunch as to why we've gone 5 pages with that question dismissed, but that's fine.

I'm not sure why silly pictures draws salt from people. It's unfortunate that some people have thin skin. I even laugh at good christian memes like this one:



For the record, my dad got quite upset with me when I stated a few months ago that I thought arminian interpretation seemed more biblically accurate than calvinist. I didn't even know he considered himself calvinist!

peons.

I've accomplished my mission of destruction today in this thread.

Keep calm and carry on, peons.

I've accomplished my mission of destruction today in this thread.

Keep calm and carry on, peons.

Learned from you bro. You use to start some riots on the old boards then disappear like you didnt just post that stuff.

Good stuff, sensei

I blame you for what Josef Stalin did because you're both anti religion.

See how unbalanced your argument is?

You can blame me for whatever you want. I don't really care.

You can blame me for your doppelgänger in an alternate universe being cheated on by his wife smashing the pool boy, and I'll give you a nice golf clap.