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http://www.kwwl.com/story/31203671/2016/02/11/the-gun-test

Here is an interesting experiment involving kids and guns. Some of the kids had never been exposed to a gun, and some had. The gun was hidden in a room and the kids were let in.

I've always been a proponent of teaching gun safety to kids if you have a gun in the house. I don't think it should be required, but it's damn sure prudent. I first fired a gun when I was 7, as my dad had bought a gun and thought my brother and I were too curious. I knew that thing wasn't a toy after the first shot, and I had instant respect for what it could do.

I took my 9 year old out shooting Sunday. She was crushing a 3" steel target at 50 yards. Not bad for a left handed kid shooting a right handed bolt action .22 from the 70's. I tried to get her to shoot the AR, but she is still afraid of it.

I don't really have much to say except parents need to lock up their damn weapons when they aren't home.

If a kid grabs the gun you own, and shoots somebody or themselves, the Parents should be charged as well.

If anybody's kids shoot my kid with a gun that belongs to their parents, I'm comin for the parents. The law won't save you.

Imma get out Of this thread now.

Scary stuff. I don't care what side of the gun rights battle you come down on, I think, as adults, we can all agree, children with guns, left unsupervised,is a very bad idea. almost nothing good came come of it and so much bad can be the result.

Please note that two kids didn't pick up or handle the gun. Those are kids that have guns in the house. It was reported on one website but not the one with the story. Those kids belong to the moms that were upset their kids didn't tell someone. At the very least, they knew it was not a toy, as they had been taught it was not.

I know you aren't saying it's ok to leave guns out just because a child had been taught how to use them. Are you?

Bottom line is, if you have guns and children within the same house, those guns better be locked up or put in a spot unreachable to children.

There's nothing more to argue regardless if you train them, etc. My brothers and I went through hunter safety course, hunted and demonstrated responsibleness when around guns - and still they were locked up.

Just takes a few seconds for utmost disaster to unfold.

Where would you get an idea like that???


It's like teaching a child that the stove is hot. Don't Touch.

I agree with the consensus that firearms should be under lock and key when children are present . I also agree strongly that if there are firearms in the house with children that they should be trained in the use and shown the effects of what a firearm can do . I was raised from birth with guns of all kinds and also learned that they were instruments of destruction . The stove was hot don't go near it and the guns were dangerous don't go near it , unless Dad and or Grandpa was there to direct you. Guns were designed to kill other living things and should be treated accordingly . I think the problem begins when people lose sight of that simple fact and try and get cute with why they like to play with firearms . Are they fun ? Heck yeah they are but the simple unavoidable fact is that they were designed and built with one thing in mind and that is to kill .

No, I said exactly what I wrote. The kids that had been taught a gun was not a toy did not play with it.

Young kids are fascinated by learning. Everything is a new experience to a young child, and new things are played with to figure them out. If they've seen a cartoon, show, or anything with a gun then find one, they will play with it in the manner they have seen. If they are taught that a gun is not a toy, they are less apt to play with it. If they are shown what that gun can do, like the example I gave of myself when I was taken to a gun range to fire one, they know for a fact that the gun is a dangerous weapon.

Relax, just asking to be sure. Thanks

True Story time.

I was in 3rd grade walking to pick up a friend because he was on the way to school. We start walking and meet another group of kids. While walking there was a gun (revolver) in the grass, of course one of the kids pick it up. He then cocks the hammer and points it into my face, then points it in my friends face while laughing. An older kid (5th or 6th grade) takes the gun looks at it points it in the air and shoots it multiple times. I remember going to school and having to talk to the police about the gun (Where did you find it? Who's gun was it? How do you know the kid? etc.)

Now that I think back they did not contact my mother about the incident or me having to talk to police.

That quick I could have died at the ripe age of 8 or 9.

You're very fortunate IMO.

Not too long ago, a little 6 year old girl shot and killed herself here. She found Daddy's gun in the couch.

J/C

My daughter loves to shoot. My daughter has asked many times "dad, can we go shoot?"

My daughter has also seen what a 1 oz. slug will do to a deer. The hole it puts in, and out.

My daughter has never touched any gun without me there. Promise.

My daughter isn't everyone, I know that.

Guns should be locked up, or at least safeguarded in some manner, no doubt.

I have no children but I keep all my guns in a locked gun safe. It's just common sense to lock up your weapons.

So when the day comes an intruder breaks into your home, you're running around looking for a key to access your defense, likely while they're already pointing their weapon at you?

If you have kids, I understand. If not, I'd have a piece hidden in every bloody room in the house "in case" they needed to get accessed quickly.

Agreed for the most part.

But what happens if your door is knocked in at 2 am, or 2 pm by an armed intruder? You can't really call time out so you can go to your safe, can you?


I'm fortunate, I know. I don't have to worry about kids. That does NOT mean I have guns sitting around that little Susie, or big Max can get.

What I have is a large safe in my basement full of all my guns except my daily gun. Then in my bedroom I have a biometric small safe with 1 gun and 2 magazines in it.

Maybe I should be but I'm just not that paranoid about someone kicking in my door.

i swear to god the way some of you guys view the world, i'm surprised yall havent built a bunker and stocked it full of supplies.

turn of the tv, and go outside.

It's always what you least expect that shows up knocking on the door. I'm a fan of the trigger locks with combination required. If I had kids, this is exactly what I'd have on every gun that isn't locked up in a safe.

I leave my guns on the table and my kids locked up... it's quieter.

I'd try that with my dogs but I seriously doubt it would be quieter.

If a child is taught gun safety at a young age they would never point a gun at another human.

That opening video by Erik (with the bubble-headed blonde news reporter) was a huge pile of dogie do do.

"This is not for or against guns"

But it most certainly is for TV revenue.

Man, I'm losing faith in these future generations.

...said every generation ever... after reaching the age of 45-50...


just sayin'-

Exactly... no matter how old you are on this MB, at some point your parents and/or grandparents were absolutely certain your entire generation would amount to nothing...

I guess since we are on the verge of electing either Hillary or Donald as President, those generations might have been right.

Nah. But, can you tell me which day I might need a gun to protect me and my family?

Better to have access to one 1 million times and never need it than to not have access 1 time when you do need it.

Gun control.

Get rid of the gangs shooting each other over drugs and turf. See what our gun crime is then. Until, I'd rather be prepared.

16 minutes for a cop to show up at my house.

See, swish, many of us don't live in an apartment complex, or a condo development where there's 10-100 neighbors right beside you. Not everyone lives in the city, or in the hood, as you call it.

Wow man, I'd love for you to come spend a weekend here with me. We could build a fire, and I could throw a wet blanket on it so you knew what that was all about.

We could take a walk out in the woods, so you could see what that was all about - peaceful, serene, calming. And full of animals - some we want to eat, some we want to avoid.

You could go to church with me. 1 day wouldn't change your mind, I know, but you'd find "all y'all Christians" aren't quite exactly what you think they are.

Then, we could have someone beat on our door at 3 a.m. and you could see what the response time is from the sheriff's department. Trust me, in those 16 minutes it took them to get here, he could have killed all 4 of us, (daughter had a friend here), plus stolen whatever he wanted and been gone before the cops turned down my road.

Apartments arent that safe. I was a victim of home invasion and assault in an apartment.

Just today on the news there was a story of a pizza driver who was robbed and murdered at an apartment.

You are better off with big dogs and guns in a house.

Being a prepper is nothing bad. It only takes one emergancy to teach you a lesson.

In Atlanta had that emergency with Katrina and severe gas shortages to the point there was violence.

So now I stock a weeks worth of food and water. Its the smart thing to do.

It's better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and not have it.

There is nothing wrong with being prepared but you have to admit... some of the folks on here act like they are excited for the mayhem and the looting and the shooting to start so they can hunker down, join in and say "Told you so."

Which folks are those?

Do you include me in that? Honest question.

I have actually not noticed anyone admitting to being a prepper so I dont know what you are referring to.

quote by Pit above:

"It's better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and not have it."

Were you an Eagle Scout?

This is the Boy Scout motto worded a little differently.

No, I was raised by a Master Sergeant. I grew up hunting, fishing and camping, but was never a Scout.

You say that as if there is something wrong with having one. I will assume you live in Cleveland. What do you do when you get 5 feet of lake effect snow, and the entire city is closed for about 2 weeks?

I bring up the 5 feet of snow, because in 1972, I lived in northern Maryland, and we got 4 feet of snow overnight. The majority of that was lake effect combined with another blizzard. It's the only time in life I've ever seen a white out. We lived on an army base, and it took 2 days before they could plow the roads. Everything was closed for days. Now, this was an efficient army base. Most cities are too wide spread to clear the roads this quickly. Are you prepared to feed your family for several days in similar circumstances?

You're talking about natural disasters.

I'm talking about there being Muslims terrorist right across the street. Or somebody waiting to rob you as soon as you wake up in the morning everyday.

Try to keep up.

No, you were belittling prepping. It could be any situation. Hurricane, blizzard, EMP attack, dirty bomb, earthquake, super volcano eruption, zombie outbreak, or alien attack. What is wrong with being prepared? Maybe you should keep up.

Erik, go back and read all of the posts preceding Swish's comment.. they are all about having guns available and whether they should even be in a safe because you can't get to them quick enough and what if somebody is kicking your door in, etc... There was no talk of natural disasters or "prepper" stuff until AFTER his comment...