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Government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

-Abraham Lincoln

I'm surprised that Trump isn't the board choice. Looking at how orange his face is I'd think he'd be a natural favorite around here.

Can't we get something on the ballot ourselves? All it takes is signatures. Say we get it done in Ohio that our members of congress can't serve x amount of time (I prefer a total of 6 years for both house and senate) and if they don't like it that's not our problem.
The other states can impose this on their representatives as they see fit also.

Citizen Legislators Not Career Politicians

U.S. Term Limits (USTL), based out of Palm Beach, FL, advocates for term limits at all levels of government. Since it was established in the early 1990s, USTL has assisted in enacting and defending term limits on state legislatures in 15 states as well as Congressional term limits in 23 states. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton that states may not individually enact term limits for their members of Congress…
http://ustermlimitsamendment.org/

Ouch.

Ouch indeed.

How about we just enforce term limits by voting the career politicians out of office?

The trouble is we never vote people out of office. So I think it's best to make sure that whoever is voted in can only stay for a short amount of time.

Another problem is no one from the same Party will run against an incumbent.

Maybe we should privatize government. Instead of electing people we could elect corporations to seats in congress, since corporations are people. Then they could just pass out their free speech money tokens to voters.

I mean we wouldn't have to worry about corruption via corporations buying representatives anymore, they would be the representatives. And we wouldn't need term limits because corporations can live 1000's of years.

And we could finally end all regulations with the trusted corporations in charge of everything. Just imagine how fair the supreme court would be if it consisted of 9 really big impartial corporations!

And real people could just work hard and keep everything they make because there would be no taxes on the poor with corporations in charge. The 1% could still buy and sell corporations and create so many jobs that everyone would be employed in at least two of them!

Gosh, can you just imagine all the opportunities!

^ This will seem logical to somebody whose names sound like Sporty & MrEd... smh

I'm pretty sure this is the plot of a movie.

Yup. Up to a point.

BUT: He's missing the requisite amount of 'Brown' to truly 'sell the case.'

So he's losing a significant number of "Browns" fans....


He still has work to do-

He's not missing the requisite amount of 'Brown', the content is just different, he's just in need of a laxative.

Or an Orwellian book.

All I know is this is the BIGGEST WEEK OF THE PRIMARIES!!!

Will this be the turning point where Trump declines?
Will Trump Crush the competition this week, taking him all the way?
Can Rubio win his own State?
Can Kasich?

Holy Smokes Folks, this week will be amazing to behold!!!

excited, ain't I?

40 I believe you and Ted are both correct. Two of the biggest problems we have is that the deck is HEAVILY stacked in the favor of the incumbent, even if the whole world thinks that incumbent is a boob. And second is this notion that congress sucks, approval ratings are low, but it's not MY congressman that's the problem so we can re-elect him, it's all of those OTHER congressmen that are the problem... that's why we have such a hard time moving forward... and I will add to that a third big problem.. the leadership of both parties blows in both the house and the senate and it is that leadership that determines which candidates they will throw the weight of the party behind to support which makes them the only viable candidates.

An already ugly presidential campaign has descended to a new level — one where the question is no longer whether Donald Trump can be stopped on his march to the GOP presidential nomination, but whether it is possible to contain what he has unleashed across the country.

Violence at Trump’s rallies has escalated sharply, and the reality-show quality of his campaign has taken a more ominous turn in the past few days. On Saturday, a man charged the stage in Dayton, Ohio, and a swarm of Secret Service agents surrounded the Republican front-runner.

On Friday afternoon, as the incendiary and racist political rhetoric of Donald Trump brought the country closer to the brink of widespread racial violence, President Obama was in Austin, Texas, primarily to exhort tech leaders attending the South by Southwest interactive film/music event to use their unique skills and vast wealth to help solve such national challenges as providing broadband to poorer rural areas and upgrading outdated federal networks.

But he also found time to comment on the sordid spectacle we are witnessing from the Republican Party this election cycle, and specifically the rise of Donald J. Trump as that Party’s standardbearer:


What is happening in this primary is just a distillation of what’s been happening inside their party for more than a decade. I mean, the reason that many of their voters are responding is because this is what’s been fed through the messages they’ve been sending for a long time — that you just make flat assertions that don’t comport with the facts. That you just deny the evidence of science. That compromise is a betrayal. That the other side isn’t simply wrong, or we just disagree, we want to take a different approach, but the other side is destroying the country, or treasonous. I mean, that’s — look it up. That’s what they’ve been saying.

Against this backdrop, the President observed that the rise of a Trump is hardly surprising:


So they can’t be surprised when somebody suddenly looks and says, you know what, I can do that even better. I can make stuff up better than that. I can be more outrageous than that. I can insult people even better than that. I can be even more uncivil. I mean, conservative outlets have been feeding their base constantly the notion that everything is a disaster, that everybody else is to blame, that Obamacare is destroying the country. And it doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not. It’s not, we disagree with this program, we think we can do it better — it’s, oh, this is a crisis!

So if you don’t care about the facts, or the evidence, or civility, in general in making your arguments, you will end up with candidates who will say just about anything and do just about anything. And when your answer to every proposal that I make, or Democrats make is no, it means that you’ve got to become more and more unreasonable because that’s the only way you can say no to some pretty reasonable stuff. And then you shouldn’t be surprised when your party ultimately has no ideas to offer at all.

The President’s assessment is spot on, but he is too constrained by his position and responsibilities as President-- and by his unique status as the first African-American President and everything that implies—to take on its logical conclusion. Not only have “conservative outlets” have been feeding their base the fanciful notion that the Obama Presidency has been a “disaster,” but they specifically equate that “disaster” with the President’s race. So the rise of Trump is not only consistent with the upsurge in outlandish, alarmist rhetoric from the Republican Party, but with its constant deliberate focus on stoking racial resentments as well.

The President came closer to openly stating the obvious on Saturday in Dallas:


... Trump should not be viewed in isolation or as the product of a single election, President Obama said Saturday at a fundraiser in Dallas.

Obama said those who “feed suspicion about immigrants and Muslims and poor people, and people who aren’t like ‘us,’ and say that the reason that America is in decline is because of ‘those’ people. That didn’t just happen last week. That narrative has been promoted now for years.”

Trump is the embodiment of “that narrative” come to fruition. Here’s David Remnick, commenting in the New Yorker:


This is not a Seth Rogen movie; this is as real as mud. Having all but swept the early Republican primaries and caucuses, Trump—who re-tweets conspiracy theories and invites the affections of white-supremacist groups, and has established himself as the adept inheritor of a long tradition of nativism, discrimination, and authoritarianism—is getting ever closer to becoming the nominee of what Republicans like to call “the party of Abraham Lincoln.” No American demagogue––not Huey Long, not Joseph McCarthy, not George Wallace––has ever achieved such proximity to national power.

Impotent and unwilling to contain the toxic genie he himself uncorked, Trump has predictably resorted to blaming the people protesting his hate speech for the violence his followers are now straining at the leash to inflict on people of color: the actual, bloody, physical violence they have always fantasized about but never had the chance before to act on, constrained by both the rule of law and social mores. Now that they are inspired by a figure who gives voice to their hatred, one who gives them implicit—and explicit-- permission to act upon it, it is simply a matter of time and the law of averages that some people, perhaps many people, are going to be hurt and killed.

When that happens Trump has already made it clear he will be pointing his finger at everyone but himself. He is pathological in his unwillingness to accept responsibility for anything he has done. There is no reason to believe he will change after people start dying. And the mass corporate media, CNN, MSNBC and FOX who have cynically aided and abetted his rise will simply treat us to another round of “both sides do it” phony equivalency, all the while hotly denying their own complicity—not only in coddling Trump, but in failing to call out the Republican Party’s role in creating a backdrop for violence through its blatant and unprecedented disrespect of this President during the last eight years. The fact is that there is a direct, unbroken line connecting the behavior of the Republican Party since 2008 and the violence being encouraged by its front-runner today.

So in this narrow, tiny window we have before the violence Trump clearly wants spirals out of control, there should be no ambiguity. Americans must be absolutely clear on who brought this on the country:


The G.O.P. establishment may be in a state of meltdown, but this process of exploiting the darkest American undercurrents began with Richard Nixon’s Southern Strategy and, more lately, has included the birther movement and the Obama Derangement Syndrome. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, who compete hard for the most extreme positions in conservatism, decry the viciousness and the vacuousness of Trump, but they started out by deferring to him––and now they ape his vulgarity in a last-ditch effort to keep pace. Insults. Bigotry. Nationally televised assurances of adequate genital dimensions. This is the political moment in which we live. The Republican Party, having spent years courting the basest impulses in American political culture, now sees the writing on the wall. It reads “Donald Trump,” in very big letters.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/13...detail=facebook

Pretty well describes where we are at. While I feel comfortable saying that Donald Trump will never ever be the president of this country its disturbing tom think there are people in this country even friends that think this type of behavior is OK.

I thought I hoped we had grown past this as a people, I was wrong.

You are both right and wrong here. You are right that the Violence has escalated at Trump rallies and you are wrong in suggesting Trump is the cause.

Bernie needs to call his paid disruptors off.

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“Mr. Trump and the Republican leaders who support him and his hate-filled rhetoric should be on notice after tonight’s events,” the George Soros funded MoveOn web page states. “To all of those who took to the streets of Chicago, we say thank you for standing up and saying enough is enough. To Donald Trump, and the GOP, we say, welcome to the general election.”

MoveOn has consistently functioned as a lobby group for the policies of the Obama administration, including the disaster of Obamacare and the continuation of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the escalation of the war on terror that has turned America into a police and surveillance state. In 2007 it backed a bill trotted out by then Democrat Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi to continue financing the occupation of Iraq.

The group acts as a front for wealthy Democrats. It was founded with the help of the financier George Soros who donated $1.46 million to get the organization rolling. Linda Pritzker of the Hyatt hotel family gave the group a $4 million donation.
Many of the Democrat and “progressive” candidates supported by MoveOn have failed to be elected since the organization was formed in 1998.

The violent demonstration in Chicago on Friday may represent a precursor to the sort of activity the organization will engage in as it tries to “shut down” its political enemies and elect either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.

On Friday night many of the protesters shouted “Bernie!” and held placards announcing their support for the socialist Democrat.
http://www.infowars.com/soros-funded-moveon-org-takes-credit-for-violence-in-chicago/

Made me spit out my coffee you, you made me laugh thanks...

For the record 40 cause I know you like the truth...

Students from the University of Illinois organized the protest both inside and outside the hall. Moveon.org had NOTHING to do with it. They did however come out in support of the demonstration.

For what its worth I don't agree with disrupting Trump events, peaceful protests outside the venue or holding up a sign while remaining silent in the event would be OK, but in light of the emotion charged atmosphere I think protests outside the event is fine.

Further and you probably know this, there is no 1st amendment right to free speech the 1st amendment guarantees free speech against government censorship, read your constitution.

this guy really thinks Bernie paid people to go to these rallies?

I bet he also thinks Trump steaks was a huge success, too.

I hope you guys find the Camps kozy.

Yep, Moveon had nothing to do with.

Truth! I love it.

BTTB, stop typing now, I accept your apology, no need to post it.

This conveniently omits the behavior of the democratic party BEFORE 2008.. like from 2000 to 2008.. Vulgar, rude, offensive, bigotted are 4 words that come to mind. Remember when the Iraqi threw a shoe at George Bush and democrats laughed and applauded? Remember the photo side-by-sides with Hitler (the same ones they are now doing with Trump)? Remember the photo mural of Bush and a about 10 monkeys? Remember them saying for the last 7+ years that anytime anybody disagreed with Obama that the person must be a racist thus stifling any meaningful debate? Remember the doom and gloom and the finger pointing and blaming Obama and Hillary both did during the 2007 election cycle? Remember either one of them passing ANY responsibility on to the democrats in congress at the time?

The joker that wrote this article may choose to selectively IGNORE how democrats have behaved in the past and their own contribution to the spiral that has led us to Donald Trump but reasonable people know that they have their own skeletons when it comes to the current political climate.

Donald Trump makes a very convenient scapegoat for the democrats to forget what rotten, unethical, mean-spirited, hateful, bastards they have been in the not too distant past... but some people remember.

i'm sure it'll be to die for.

i see the party of personal responsibility is back at blaming everybody else for the rise of donald trump...except on donald trump himself.

take responsibility for your actions, they said.

and Trump blaming Bernie is magical, ain't it?

Can't truly become like hitler until you blame the jew for your problems.

And you can't truly become Stalin until you blame all of the rich people for your problems.

so Trump is becoming like Stalin, too? cause he's been blaming wall street as well.

man this guy is trying for the trifecta. maybe i will vote for him after all, i wanna see the most glorious of all train wrecks.

Nah, vote for Bernie, "Making America average again"

i prefer that over "make america hate again".

CHICAGO — By sundown on Friday night, the crowd assembled inside the arena was chanting and ready to cheer on their candidate: Donald Trump. Six thousand strong and still trickling in through the metal detectors at the front gate, they had traveled from across the Midwest, taking vacation days from work, booking bus tickets from afar, and waiting, at times, more than 12 hours outside on the streets of Chicago for a night with the GOP frontrunner.

But not everyone was there to cheer. Just 50 feet in front of the podium where Trump was scheduled to appear at any moment, Nathaniel Lewis, a 25-year-old African-American graduate student at the University of Illinois at Chicago, had established a beachhead of sorts: a pocket of about three dozen college students and activists. They were ready, too.

What Lewis and dozens of his UIC classmates had planned was perhaps bigger—and better organized—than any protest Trump had faced to date. It had been a week in the making, and now everyone was in place: with roughly 2,500 on the street outside and hundreds more inside, including dozens working directly with Lewis. As they waited, the crowd growing loud around them, a few were starting to feel doubts about what they were hoping to do.

“I don’t want to get punched in the face,” one woman, an undergrad, told Lewis over the din inside the UIC Pavilion. Lewis nodded.

“I’m not going to let that happen to you,” he assured her.

A few minutes later, the woman was back. “Can we leave?” she asked Lewis.

In the moment, standing next to them, I could understand what she was worried about. I was just there to watch, but I could feel it myself. The protesters, mostly black and Latino and young, were standing shoulder to shoulder with the people that their protest would upset most. The crowd was white—all of them—sporting “Hillary for Prison” and “Bomb the Hell out of ISIS” pins, wearing camouflage ball caps, hunter orange, and N.R.A. gear, and shouting for their candidate, who was late, but coming, surely coming.

“U-S-A!” they chanted.

And: “Build that Wall!”

And: “We want Trump!”

“If you want to leave, y’all can do that,” Lewis told the woman at his side, leaning in close so she could hear him. While he felt comfortable promising that she wouldn’t get punched, he could not assure her that they wouldn’t get arrested. “We will be escorted out of here,” he told her.

The plan was straightforward. Once Trump began speaking, Lewis would begin sending messages to the groups around the hall—and, so prompted, they would each stand up, chanting, and disrupt the speech. It would then build to a crescendo: right there, in front of Trump’s podium. Lewis and the other protesters in front were going to link up—“arm in arm,” he instructed the students around him—and make their presence known in a silent, but conspicuous, circle. “It will speak louder,” Lewis said, “than anybody who interrupts Trump’s speeches.”

They never got that chance. Just after 6:30 p.m. on Friday, a Trump official appeared on stage and abruptly told the crowd that the event was off. Trump would not be appearing. The crowd was shocked; the protesters spontaneously erupted in cheers. The official cited “safety” concerns, though both Chicago law enforcement and university police said they had reported none. In the coming hours, Trump would appear on television, calling the cancellation a “wise decision,” given the threat of what might have happened. “I don’t want to see anybody getting hurt,” he would tell CNN. On Twitter, he would blame “an organized group of people, many of them thugs” for what happened in Chicago, and assert that Bernie Sanders’ campaign had orchestrated the protesters. Protesters themselves – and even Trump’s GOP rivals – would denounce Trump for fomenting the violence that has flared at his rallies with increasing frequency over recent days, leading up to Friday night’s dramatic cancellation – the single most electric moment for the growing anti-Trump protest movement.

“Please go in peace,” the official told the crowd from the stage Friday night.

And that was the exact moment when the violence began, pitting Trump supporters against protesters, whites against blacks. An event—teetering on the edge until that moment, but still calm—devolved quickly into an angry scrum, and Lewis and his fellow students found themselves in the middle of it. They were standing near the podium where the candidate would not be appearing—with an increasingly angry crowd around them that knew exactly who had prevented Donald Trump from showing up.

“Stay together!” Lewis urged his fellow protesters.
The Trump supporters surged toward them, shouting and swearing. The confrontation the student protesters had hoped to avoid was coming, and there was nothing any of them could do to stop it.


The unlikely journey to the floor at the Trump rally had begun four nights earlier in a lecture hall on campus at UIC. The first meeting drew about 100 students, many of them campus leaders frustrated that their college had decided to host the Trump rally at all. They launched a “Stop Trump” Facebook page, and, over the weekend, the page had drawn about a thousand likes. That’s how I found out about the group. I wanted to tell the story of the growing national unrest about the Trump campaign through the eyes of the protesters, so I reached out to the student leaders at UIC and requested behind-the-scenes access to their protest.

They agreed, inviting me to Chicago.

At that first meeting on Monday, which I did not attend, finding consensus on an actual protest plan sputtered in the lecture hall. “People had too many agendas,” UIC student Brian Geiger said later. “We didn’t get much accomplished.” There were supporters of Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and even one guy in a Ted Cruz shirt, but the students were intent on keeping the protest nonpartisan.

Students couldn’t agree how—or where—to protest. Angry over recent news of activists being physically assaulted at Trump events, some felt they shouldn’t be passive if attacked on Friday night. But others like Geiger—an African-American senior majoring in political science and an honors student at UIC—countered that non-violence was the only approach they could take. Anything else, he said, would reflect badly on them, the university and the cause. “What I’m fearful of,” he said, “is folks who are coming to this campus and want to start violence.

That’s what scares me.”

But the students’ biggest concern, by far, was their own safety. Mateo Uribe Rios, a UIC senior and undocumented immigrant who came to the United States from Colombia as a child about 15 years ago, felt anxious just thinking about being on campus with a large Trump rally in the works. “I’m scared down to my bones,” Rios said. “We are the direct targets here. We—the students of color and undocumented students—are the targets of Trump’s narrative. If there’s violence, it will be focused on us.”

Looking out at the lecture hall on Monday night—at students black and Latino, Muslim and gay—Joe Iosbaker had to agree. Unlike most of the students there, he was a seasoned activist, 57 and bespectacled, with flecks of gray in his beard. As a leader in the SEIU’s Local 73, representing some 3,500 UIC employees, Iosbaker had protested for other causes many times before, and even been arrested, he said. Despite the obstacles, apparent in the lecture hall, he believed the students could find a way.

“You can organize a march so that you’re safe,” he said. “You can. You can organize it so nobody gets hurt. But it’s going to take a conscious effort.”


JUAN ROJAS is cautious by nature. Maybe it’s the scientist in him. At 19, a sophomore at UIC, he is working toward becoming a doctor. He volunteers in Chicago public schools teaching health education. His major is neuroscience, and he bashfully acknowledges a grade point average hovering just above 3.9. “He’s an intelligent, driven person,” said friend and fellow UIC sophomore Casandra Robledo, a pre-nursing major, with brown hair and braces on her teeth. “None of us are the stereotypical protester.”

Perhaps with the exception of Miguel Del Toral, a 26-year-old graduate student and member of the Chicago Socialist Party. He is round in the middle, with bushy black hair and a beard to match. Rojas, by comparison, is a short and slim, a sliver of a man in tight jeans, cuffed at the ankle. And while Del Toral seems to shout his thoughts, Rojas is measured, his gaze steady behind rectangular glasses. The pair didn’t even know each other a few days earlier. And yet, by Thursday night, there they were-- along with Lewis and Robledo—standing at the front of a lecture hall near the UIC quad, presiding over the second meeting of the students.

“We just want to make sure we’re all on the same page,” Rojas said, to begin.

I was sitting in the fourth row, among about three dozen students, most of them Latino and African-American – a representative slice of UIC’s diverse student body. Since Monday, using Google docs and a messaging app called WhatsApp, the group had looped in roughly 60 people and begun to formulate a detailed plan. For starters, a large group of them, led by Rojas, would march from the quad to the corner of Harrison Avenue and Racine Street, just outside the arena where Trump would speak. Del Toral would oversee the portable megaphone system they were borrowing for the event and would make sure no one hijacked the microphone for their own political purposes. “I’ll get them off,” he said.

Lewis and Robledo would help oversee the group of students interested in going inside. The goal: get in line long before the doors opened at 3 p.m. so they could claim center stage, between Trump’s podium and the media’s television cameras. “We will take the floor,” Lewis said. “I’m not even concerned about that.” Rojas was thinking about an exit strategy. He wanted to make sure the students inside the arena got out – either escorted by security, or on their own before the end of the event when tensions might be most strained.

“For safety concerns,” Rojas told the group. “We don’t want to be in direct conflict with anyone. We don’t want it to be Us vs. Them. It’s about unity and respect and tolerance.”

Still, everyone in the room knew they were taking risks, which the students categorized by color to make the stakes plain. “Peacemakers,” folks on the edge of the march, were green, with little risk of problems. Marchers and those going inside were yellow and could be detained. “That doesn’t mean you’ll be charged,” Rojas clarified. “But you are acknowledging that you have that risk and you’re okay with that.” Red was the final category.

“What does red do?” an African-American female student asked.

“You’re at the front of the march,” Rojas told her. Or inside the event itself, prepared to disrupt it with peaceful chanting. “You’re at risk of being arrested,” Geiger said, putting it another way.

The woman, new to the group that night, grabbed a pen and began to sign up.

“I want to be red,” she declared.
***

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-chicago-protest-213728

There is more to the piece follow the link but no mention of moveon.org for the record.. You guys really...

Oh and 40 which is it moveon.org or Bernie?

And if your ever in Chi town and need a poster go here..

http://www.chicago.minutemanpress.com/?gclid=CKCqq9DTwMsCFdgDgQodk4wCtQ

nuff said no need to apologize.......

The left shows its always impeccable respect for free speech as usual.

“We don’t want to be in direct conflict with anyone. We don’t want it to be Us vs. Them. It’s about unity and respect and tolerance.”

Unless you're on the right.

Lets go someplace where we aren't welcomed or wanted and start causing problems!

It wasn't an invasion or intrusion, it was a journey!

please, y'all have just as big of a problem with the 1st amendment.

the right boils down to this: i should be able to say whatever i want, and nobody should be allowed to tell me i'm wrong.

How many Trump protesters have invaded and shut down Bernie/Hillary campaigns? Just as big should be easy to measure by that metric shouldn't it?


The only example I can think of is BLM shutting down Bernie a few months ago.

I thought we had agreed that the hatred was always there.. I thought we agreed that one of the positives to the Obama presidency was that he took racism, which had largely gone underground and unnoticed for a long time, and brought it to the surface so it could be re-examined..

So look on the bright side, the rise of Donald Trump has brought another hatred to the surface, the fact that the left absolutely despises country folk or "rednecks". They always have. It's in every Trump article, the hatred and angst toward this group of people... it's so thick you could cut it with a knife. And it's not yet politically incorrect enough so it's ok to just go ahead and say it.

read the article that BTTB posted... this mixed race group of people was scared, imagine they were surrounded by a room full of white people in camo hats and hunter orange (Yea, that's not a very subtle code for what they are talking about)... What could be scarier than that? Re-write that to a group of protesting white people scared because they were in a room full of blacks wearing hoodies and Timberlands and you.. well you sir would be a big racist to feel threatened by that... (Unless you are Hillary, in which case admitting you are scared by super-predator black kids in hoodies isn't that big of a deal)... and if black people do show up to challenge her or Bill on it, they just promptly have them removed.

You mean when the wuss named bernie let two little women steal his microphone from him? What a candy arse.

you're confusing wanting the the topic to be at the surface so we can get past this, with actual hatred WINNING.

i have zero problem with the country finally having this discussion.

what i have a problem with is if these kind of people end up winning the WH.

because that isn't progress. that's regression.

people think i'm off base when i say this, but it's absolutely the truth:

it's funny how much in common the conservative base has with the middle eastern enemy.

hate, fear mongering, i can go down the list.

Oh but he won't be so candied when he comes for our wallets!

The Liberal/Progressive movement in action...

-Yell haters while hating.
-Yell for free speech while denying others their free speech.
-Yell Hitler while acting like Hitler.
-Call yourself a Protester when you are nothing more than a Disruptor.

why am i not surprised, 40.

you love authoritarians like trump. it's why you support Putin.

the party of personal responsibility is constantly blaming others.

that's rich.