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didn't another team try to buy a Superbowl? the best and most expensive FA's out there and they flopped bad.Not saying not to ever play in FA. This time around kind of feels like we are going to build through the draft and once we are a couple key pieces away from the post season then go all in, in FA and push us over the top...could be wrong, just the way it feels to me at this stage...


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Originally Posted By: mac

The core of the team...the one unit that excelled when other areas of the team did not...was the offensive line. Together, the Oline earned the respect around the league for the performances they gave under very adverse conditions.



Yet the OL and offense stats were atrocious.

When I watched the Browns games I never saw so such a dominant OL, quite the contrary, in most of the games we were being pushed and dominated.

I don't think a top 5 OL team would ever finish 2 worst of the league.

IMHO that just shows that we don't know how to appraise good OL play, we just know how bad OL's look like.

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It sounds to me like someone thinks you run an NFL team like a truck stop.


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Who are Sashi and Haslem going to answer too? You make a statement like that as if there is any way for anyone to make them answer for something that you don't even know the truth about, at least not the whole truth. It's obvious you don't like Sashi and Haslem, but I'm sure that they are not losing sleep over your disapproval.

Answer this. If you want them to answer for what they supposedly did, who would they be answering too? Second, if you say they should answer to the fans, what are you willing to do about it if they don't? Are you going to stop watching the games, buying merchandise, or buying tickets to the game? Even if you did stop supporting the team altogether, unless every fan or at least a good portion of the fans stopped supporting them (financially) then your absence would not be missed.

I understand you are frustrated with the way things are going, but to make statements like you did could be construed incorrectly.

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Originally Posted By: mac
vol...it's apparent, you know little about football and a just little more about money.

In the NFL, the cap money is their to spend...not save for a rainy day. You don't win a damn thing when save a bunch of cap space...

The way the Steelers and Broncos operate..how they use the cap to their advantage..to win football games.

I don't know when our Flying J owner and his Harvard business GM will understand that teams that save as much cap space as they can, rarely win a damn thing.


Wow, I am not sure if you meant to insult me or not. My point is only that the Browns are operating in a totally different fashion than in the past. It is the pioneers who take all the arrows. I think Sashi and Haslam are courageous to try what they are doing.

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Originally Posted By: mac
vol...it's apparent, you know little about football and a just little more about money.

In the NFL, the cap money is their to spend...not save for a rainy day. You don't win a damn thing when save a bunch of cap space...

The way the Steelers and Broncos operate..how they use the cap to their advantage..to win football games.

I don't know when our Flying J owner and his Harvard business GM will understand that teams that save as much cap space as they can, rarely win a damn thing.


Wow, I am not sure if you meant to insult me or not. My point is only that the Browns are operating in a totally different fashion than in the past. It is the pioneers who take all the arrows. I think Sashi and Haslam are courageous to try what they are doing.


The courage part will show itself when they experience the real down times that are predicted. They must continue going down the path they have chosen...


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Originally Posted By: Voleur
Originally Posted By: mac
vol...it's apparent, you know little about football and a just little more about money.

In the NFL, the cap money is their to spend...not save for a rainy day. You don't win a damn thing when save a bunch of cap space...

The way the Steelers and Broncos operate..how they use the cap to their advantage..to win football games.

I don't know when our Flying J owner and his Harvard business GM will understand that teams that save as much cap space as they can, rarely win a damn thing.


Wow, I am not sure if you meant to insult me or not. My point is only that the Browns are operating in a totally different fashion than in the past. It is the pioneers who take all the arrows. I think Sashi and Haslam are courageous to try what they are doing.


Mac is not the insulting type although he may have blurred the line with that one...


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didn't another team try to buy a Superbowl? the best and most expensive FA's out there and they flopped bad.Not saying not to ever play in FA. This time around kind of feels like we are going to build through the draft and once we are a couple key pieces away from the post season then go all in, in FA and push us over the top...could be wrong, just the way it feels to me at this stage...


But what happens when the contracts of the players they draft is up? So far the FO has shown they are unwilling to resign players. They are not going to ever win with high amounts of turnover every year.


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didn't another team try to buy a Superbowl? the best and most expensive FA's out there and they flopped bad.Not saying not to ever play in FA. This time around kind of feels like we are going to build through the draft and once we are a couple key pieces away from the post season then go all in, in FA and push us over the top...could be wrong, just the way it feels to me at this stage...


But what happens when the contracts of the players they draft is up? So far the FO has shown they are unwilling to resign players. They are not going to ever win with high amounts of turnover every year.


My guess is that they will have more of an attachment to players they drafted. Also, they will have the chance to get those guys under contract well before they hit free agency.

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didn't another team try to buy a Superbowl? the best and most expensive FA's out there and they flopped bad.Not saying not to ever play in FA. This time around kind of feels like we are going to build through the draft and once we are a couple key pieces away from the post season then go all in, in FA and push us over the top...could be wrong, just the way it feels to me at this stage...


But what happens when the contracts of the players they draft is up? So far the FO has shown they are unwilling to resign players. They are not going to ever win with high amounts of turnover every year.


My guess is that they will have more of an attachment to players they drafted. Also, they will have the chance to get those guys under contract well before they hit free agency.


to me they haven't shown an unwillingness to sign our own FA. Just didn't sign these particular guys. and being less than two weeks into their first FA, I think we need to wait and see if they don't resign their own picks down the road before I can call that one true or not. So, so far they let a few guys go and sign a few guys. They need to stick to their guns this time and all signs so far indicate they will just that.( crossing my fingers) fingerscrossed


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My guess is that they will have more of an attachment to players they drafted.


That's no guess. Hue has stated that they want to retain guys that they have drafted...


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vol...it's apparent, you know little about football and a just little more about money.

In the NFL, the cap money is their to spend...not save for a rainy day. You don't win a damn thing when save a bunch of cap space...

The way the Steelers and Broncos operate..how they use the cap to their advantage..to win football games.

I don't know when our Flying J owner and his Harvard business GM will understand that teams that save as much cap space as they can, rarely win a damn thing.


Wow, I am not sure if you meant to insult me or not. My point is only that the Browns are operating in a totally different fashion than in the past. It is the pioneers who take all the arrows. I think Sashi and Haslam are courageous to try what they are doing.


voleur...I simply noticed that you have nothing to say about "football" and a lot to say about winning some imaginary prize for saving cap space.

Just so you know, the Browns have not won or achieved anything by lying about resigning their own free agents.





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Hope it's ok to continue the conversation in a new thread?


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