DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Redskins Plan to Release RG3

RGIII is likely going to get one last shot, I'm not sure it's in his wisest interest to come to a team that just saw two above average starting offensive linemen walk to try and resurrect his career.

Carrying a weapon with no ammo. Trying to bake something with no flour. You get the point. It's just not wise for either parties, and IMO, that includes even if his contract is dirt cheap.

Just hard to see good in this if it plays out. Placeholder for a bit if it does. Won't be the "face of the franchise" for me. Have we surrendered on that point or is it a point of real substance going forward? Not him and not CK.

IF this happens, I bet we are going to try to milk more out of the draft early with a non-QB pick at two, go defense, and may be shopping for two CBs.

RG3 could be asking what are the plans with Josh Gordon...

He could be hype over a few things.. 1) a new opportunity 2) start a Baylor connection with Josh Gordon. When Gordon first came out and entered the supplemental draft, there were reports that RG3 wanted the Redskins to get him.

How is signing someone Noone really wants or believes in any sort of marketing ploy? His teammates, or ex teammates, didn't even like RGIII, my friend who's a Washington fan, said the fans moved on from him a long time ago.

If they're looking for a name to sell jerseys, I doubt RGIII is going to produce in that market either. JMO.

Well I'm hoping we don't go QB with the 2nd overall pick. I'm ok with one at 32 however.

I'd like to see us get a LB or OT or CB at 2. Or just the best player available.

I think that Wentz and Goff are the best "IN THIS DRAFT" But I'm not sure they are top 10 picks. Not sure they are 1st rounders to be honest, but if we traded down, got lots of picks and then took one of them (assuming they are even on our radar) then I'd probably understand that.

But this whole RG thing,, man it makes me nervous. But then I remember what Hue Jackson did with Terrell Pryor and I wonder, can he work miracles with RG? Honestly I don't know the answer.

I thought Hue was called the "quarterback whisperer" because he worked with many QBs in the past and helped improve them.

I thought Hue said he wanted "football players" and he will "coach them up". So doesn't that mean every QB will fit his scheme as long as they are football players who loves football?

I think what it means is that Hue knows how to devise a system that will work with each individual QB. (assuming said QB has general skills worthy of the NFL) RG does at least meet that.

Regarding RG3, I'm kinda with you, Daman. If Hue can make Pryor look like he did, then it makes sense that Griffen can put together a little bit of magic for short while.

I also think I've slowly talked myself into this over the last couple weeks. I wasn't high on either, and when I started to be intrigued by Griffen, he left that stupid note on his locker, effectively announcing to everyone that he still doesn't get it.

That being said, if the two options are Griffen and Kaep, I take the Griffen option, no doubt (just giving out a contract, and not picks and a contract).

The NFL lifted blackout rules last season in order to analyze if it affected ticket sales. I'm not sure what the conclusions were or it they are doing the same this season.

Thanks.

Funny thing, reports are that the Browns value have gone up by half a billion dollars since Haslam bought the team. I guess winning doesn't cure everything.

In every other phase of the Browns as a business, other than on the field, Haslam and his people have increased the value of the club by leaps and bounds.

And I'm glad about that,. But honestly, I just want to see wins LOL

Jersey sales (merchandise sales) are split among NFL teams as part of revenue sharing, except for the Dallas Cowboys, which do not participate in merchandise sales revenue sharing.

Really, they don't? I remember Jerry Jones being opposed to it but didn't know he was allowed to back out of sharing.

When it comes to macs theory, it would be false that selling jerseys really benefits Haslam very much.

When it comes to revenue, TV money ranks first. No matter how much you win or lose, your share is equal to winning teams. Jersey sales are split among the other teams, so it's not really an advantage. Your ticket sales are a big part of it, but if your fan base sells out win or lose, there's really nothing monetary to be gained by winning.

And with all of the losing, that value of the franchise known as the Cleveland Browns is valued at one and a half times what Haslam paid for it.

My point is, he didn't have to win to get wealthier. He doesn't have to sell more jerseys to get wealthier. He just has to remain an owner in the NFL and fill the seats. So far he has done that quite successfully and that's all he has to do.

Now I'm not saying he doesn't want to win or isn't trying to win. What I'm saying is that winning doesn't really make any difference to his investment gaining great value.

That also goes to say he doesn't have to hand the fans a line of BS in the hopes of making more money. Like you say, the money making is at a peak. I'm beginning to think his intentions are good but he hasn't known how to accomplish the things he promises. Neither has his FO. We might have grown to win some games if he'd leave a HC in place for more than two years.

We'll see what happens going forward.

Any news on RGIII?

makes sense. Hence "placeholder" in my post. Desperate to work the draft for more people, non-QB maybe. Drafting for need perhaps. Hope we are better after these fine interviews carrying on about process and vision Hue has been giving, Sounds familiar, like "You too?"

Show me some positives. FA has been pretty ho hum by my lights.

Well, thank goodness we have those spiffy new uniforms to fall back on as fans!

Not sure I could face another season without that going for us. Much relief in knowing that.

Really feeling cynical today, or so it seems.

I haven't heard anything specific, but BB worldwide on facebook is saying they are working towards a deal. I myself wouldn't mind if they sign him. I don't think he'll get big money. I say a one year show deal and go from there.

The guy got skills, and IMO is stuck on himself, but if Hue is the coach many believe, it might work. Plus it would open up the #2 pick for an impact player.

Yeah, I have been coming around on the idea of taking a shot on RGIII. It's low risk and we won't have to trade any draft choices away.

rg3 is probably a better reach than a wentz of goff at 2, ( and I am wentz pimp).

then we are more open to a Ramsey or Mack at 2.

Thanks.

"Moving forward on possibly" is the actual quote.

That's not a misleading headline. LOL

You're welcome.

I'm surprised they are going after him.

This team might be one hot mess when the season starts (?), but hey, at least it will be interesting!

I wonder if they still pick up a QB with their first pick in the draft?

We should give him the #2 jersey.

God I hope we don't pick a QB with 2nd overall pick...I hope it's BPA and get one when the value is there...RGIII might be a good signing if we get him as a Back-up QB and said money.

From your link...

• Brown said the Browns are moving forward on possibly signing quarterback Robert Griffin III and that the team is doing its due diligence. He did not sound like a signing is imminent, but those things can change. Griffin III and his agent, Ben Dogra, are not at the meetings.

So you think Jackson should throw out his ENTIRE offense. Should throw out everything Al Saunders does well.... and completely redesign an offense around RG3? So bascially you want one of the most experienced staffs we've had since the return to throw out all they know and play to RG's "strengths" whatever the hell those are?

His strength USED to be his LEGS. Now however, he has a BAD KNEE.
But sure, let's toss out Hues offense and run what RG ran in Washington his first year. A one read, read option college system.
Those always work great..... LMAO

The deal is this. IF we sign RG3 then HE has to change to suit OUR system. That means learning how to actually READ a defense. That means instead of pulling the ball down to run at the first sign of pressure, standing in the pocket, delivering the ball and then taking the hit. Period. It also means being a good TEAMMATE. Being a mentor to any QB we do draft. Not being the fricking diva bitch he's been since being drafted. For RG3 to succeed in THIS offense it will take a LOT of WORK on his part. Is he actually willing to do that? I'll believe it when I see it. Good start would be to put a clause in his contract fining him 20K everytime he runs past the LOS.

Looks the Browns are checking character references on RGIII.


In addition to hosting Griffin in Berea, the organization with 24 starting quarterbacks since 1999 has made phone calls seeking character references for him. It’s a clear sign the Browns are still interested enough in Griffin to thoroughly investigate whether he would fit well with them. The former No. 2 overall draft pick spent the past four seasons with Washington and was cut on March 7. He didn’t take a single snap last year.
“We are going through our process,” Jackson said. “We are going to be very diligent in what we are doing — trying to make sure that we put the right quarterbacks on our football team and in that quarterback room. And that’s one of my biggest responsibilities and also one of our organization’s biggest responsibilities.”

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