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i laughed too.

FEMA CAMPS!!!! JADE HELM!!!

edit: you know what? somebody find that thread, cause i swear we had some posters who actually believed that nonsense completely.

and that's sad.

You guys are rather amusing tonight. Lol

I know you posted in purple.

I know Clem is none of the things you posted, aside from liberal.

My question was more about his cautionary statement. Or statements, recently.

"Be afraid", but more importantly, "ignore us at your own risk".

we need to take Zika seriously.

but not the way your boys are trying to push this.

we should make sure we have adequate funding to create a vaccine for it.

maybe we can even have a conversation on if a temporary ban on Americans or green card holders going to these countries for vacation is viable or not(probably not).

but when these guys are trying to thread this into their illegal immigration rhetoric, we are gonna absolutely clown the hell out of this.

Wait a minute. Who are "my boys"? What does that even mean?

You want a vaccine for it? That'd be great. Open your wallet. And keep it open for the next 5-10 years.

And then we'll find out it isn't that big of a deal anyways.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Here you go, 40. I hope it's cooked to your liking. I guess crow is quite the delicacy in certain places!

but according to your boys, it's a massive deal.

(40, riley, Erik)

ahh, of course. 40.

Where do you get "my boys" from? Please, explain that, OR, say you were generalizing. If I'm not mistaken, you hate generalizations. But you're allowed to do it?

omfg. it's just a thing. like when people go "you libs"

you take everything so seriously man jesus. not inviting you to parties. like ever.

That's not my position at all, arch.
My position was to merely challenge 40 about what constitutes identity in the first place. As in: where was this woman (in the picture) supposed to go? How out-of-place must this person have felt going in womens' bathrooms all his life? Even back when WE all would have known him as a girl/woman? I suppose about as uncomfortable as women would feel right now if the NC laws forced the person in this pic to use female facilities.

This is one convoluted piece of the human condition... and goes far beyond the narrow scope that 40 outlined. Yes, I suppose his scenario is possible... but it's only one of about 4-6 issues where this is concerned. To date, the 'nightmare scenario' is the only one getting attention- and that seems to be enough to table ALL other conversation about this multi-faceted issue. It's a helluvalot more than just 'bathrooms & bad guys.'



"be afraid." You've never heard this as a punchline on Seinfeld or some other show? We toss it around at work all the time:

"Oh, snap!... he just asked the trombones to play LOUDER...."
"Be afraid. Be very afraid."

It was just a joke, arch... one that I knew 40 would get. I mean... have you read the guy's work?

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as for the comment in the race thread: Yes. I was serious when I was talking to DC that night. My exact quote was: "ignore us at your peril." Sounds like a threat, right? Not after you read it in context:

earlier in the post, I wrote:

Later, I made this tie-in about 'inner city life,' and how close ANY of us are to being that poor, that desperate, and that deprived of opportunity:




So... no sinister intent here, either. Rather, a sincere warning about how citizens are treated, and what oppression does to entire chunks of society. I hope you go back and read the entire post (Chicago Shootings thread). I put a bit of work into it, and touched on a number of things.

Anyway, I hope that clears it up,
Clem.

Oh. Unfortunately for you, I've never said "you libs".

I guess you never checked out my birthdate on facebook.

Stupid Propaganda.

I should post a pic of a 55 year old fat male showering with other peoples daughters claiming he identifies as female.

Female Genitalia= Ladies room.
Male Genitalia= Men's room.

Not so hard for the majority of people to figure out now is it? They think with their heads though, not always with their "Feelings".

I have to say that to a great degree, we are in agreement.

I don't believe many fathers would be in agreement with a law allowing boys to enter their daughters restrooms in school simply because they claim to identify themselves as a female. I know I have a seventeen year old granddaughter and my answer if I were asked to support such a proposition can not be posted on this board due to the profanity.

I do agree with Clem that there are more issues involved that just that, but at some point, inflicting the rights of a few to infringe on the rights of many just doesn't pass the sniff test to me.

The only Crow to be eaten in America today is the Crow being forced on the LEGAL immigrants to this Nation. ILLEGALS hurt the success of those who follow in the American tradition of coming here LEGALLY and making the Nation grow, for their generation and the generations to follow...

Latinos: The force behind small-business growth in America

In a country built by immigrants, numbers represent the strength and ability to move forward both culturally and economically. Such is the case for Latinos, a growing force in the United States currently representing 18 percent of the overall population — a number expected to grow to 30 percent by 2060.

The economic impact Latinos have in the country as a group is growing at a steady rate, and according to Nielsen, a global information measurement firm, Latinos are "the most influential segment since the baby boomers," representing a $1.5 trillion consumer market.
The economic impact extends beyond the Latino consumer to the Latino entrepreneur. The State of Latino Entrepreneurship 2015 Report, created by the Stanford Latino Entrepreneurship Initiative (SLEI), highlighted data that reveal the economic impact that Latino-owned businesses (LOBs) have on the U.S. economy.

Housed within Stanford University's Graduate School of Business, the Stanford Latino Entrepreneurship Initiative is a unique research collaboration between Stanford University and the Latino Business Action Network (LBAN), a 501(c)3 not-for-profit organization located in Palo Alto, California. This report also debunked several myths regarding the markets and industries in which LOBs are found.

Latinos are significantly impacting the growth in number of small businesses in the United States. The State of Latino Entrepreneurship 2015 report revealed that between 2007 and 2012, the number of LOBs grew by 46.9 percent compared to just 0.7 percent for non-Latino owned businesses, an extraordinary level of entrepreneurship that suggests Latinos play a substantial role in local job creation and economic development.

A closer look at the growth in the number of small businesses between 2007 and 2012 shows that 86 percent of the growth in all small businesses during this time can be attributed to LOBs In fact, without LOBs the United States would see a serious drop in the number of small businesses.

There are two common theories posed by many that deserve note. One is that LOBs are smaller because they sell primarily to Latinos and thereby are not taking advantage of the complete U.S. market. The research debunked this myth as it found that 80 percent of LOBs sell to the complete domestic market.

The second theory proposed is that LOBs are smaller because LOBs oversubscribe to small slow-growth industries. The research debunked this myth as well, as it found that LOBs are actually over-indexed in the top fastest-growing industries in the country.

The study did reveal one of the main reasons LOBs remain small: access to capital. The research shows that 70 percent of Latino entrepreneurs cited that their most common source of capital is personal savings, with credit cards, personal bank loans and "friend's loans" being the following most used options.

Surprisingly, only 6.1 percent of LOBs in this panel have financed their business with a commercial loan and roughly 2.4 percent have financed their business with a government loan. This indicates that the traditional sources of capital — such as VCs, angel investors, bank business loans and debt financing — have been almost totally absent in the funding of LOBs.

We surveyed more than 2,000 Latino-owned businesses and found that by 2012, there were 3.3 million LOBs — 90 percent of which were family owned. The study also revealed that the 3.3 million LOBs had an average of 8.6 employees per firm and an average of $155,806 in sales per firm annually, employing 2.3 million workers and generating a total of $473 billion in sales.
Perhaps the most important insight revealed by the study was the "opportunity gap," which refers to the current gap between the average yearly sales generated by LOBs and not Latino owned business (NLOBs). The potential impact on the U.S. economy if LOBs generated the same level of sales as NLOBs was calculated over the period of 2002–2012. A pattern was found to exist over these years.

For example, in 2012 alone, if all LOBs averaged the same yearly sales per firm as all NLOBs, $1.38 trillion would have been added to the U.S. economy. The results were astonishing, as they represent an incredible opportunity for growth and economic development. This serves as undeniable evidence that investing and creating new opportunities for Latino entrepreneurs is key for a thriving economy.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/18/latinos-the-force-behind-small-business-growth-in-america.html

Once you Libs finally figure out that America was not created to be a Day Care, Babysitting Service or a World Charity Organization, we will all be better off.

So you now confirm your Zika fear exists due to your innate xenophobia?

When you consider that there are almost 8 million Americans on unemployment right now, that 11.3 million number, if that's what it is since nobody really knows, looks a little more important.

The thing I don't get about the immigration issue is how so many of the poor inner city folks are the ones supporting the democrats, who support open borders. It's not MY job they are coming to take, it's not YOUR job Clem, it's the construction labor jobs, it's the drywall hanging jobs, it's the trash collection jobs, it's the agriculture jobs.. it's the jobs the poor folks COULD HAVE, yet they are damn eager to let more and more people come in and take those jobs... and continue to push wages down.

so you're saying that Zika has infected over 11 million illegal immigrants?

So has it been confirmed that Zika is now making kids transgendered?

That's what you got out of his post?

Here's what I got: He's not talking about Zika.

He's talking about 11.3 million illegals in the u.s, while around 8 million are working or looking for work in the u.s., while there are apparently 8 million u.s. citizens on unemployment.

We will draw you pictures later so you can understand what you are not reading.

oh, so you're confirming that this thread has absolutely jack crap to do with the Zika virus and everything to do with illegal immigration and 40 fear mongering and lying about illegals to further whine about it?

Refs, how come yall haven't deleted/locked this nonsense yet?

does the Zika virus draw pictures now?

Are we gonna start blaming the zika virus for gay marriage as well?

Twisting and Denial are the way of the Lib.

Are you not impressed with what a Race of people can still achieve in America when they put their hands out to work instead of putting them out for handouts? Is it not refreshing for you to see these people developing wealth and businesses instead of excuses? Are you not thrilled with a people who couldn't even speak the language but are achieving so very much? Don't you want to applaud this group who put aside drugs and their own selfish desires and take the time to actually raise their kids, feeding and educating them for a better American future?

This is the shot in the arm America has needed as the Latino community grows from 18 to 30 percent of the population and helps to make America Great Again!

The Liberal/Progressive Agenda may not be able to destroy American Society after all as we add great, hard working, morally responsible people like the Latino's to our Family!

so what's that have to do with the Zika Virus, again?

well, since we're now talking about completely unrelated stuff:

More than 1,000 world leaders say the drug war has been a disaster

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...een-a-disaster/

The global war on drugs has proven "disastrous" and "humankind cannot afford a 21st century drug policy as ineffective and counter-productive as the last century’s." So say more than 1,000 world leaders, including 27 members of the House of Representatives and six U.S. senators, in a letter to the United Nations ahead of a major international drug summit happening this week.

The letters signatories also include 24 current and former law enforcement officials, 37 members of the clergy, more than 230 health and medical professionals, and a colorful slate of celebrities, athletes and business leaders including DJ Khaled, Michael Douglas, Tom Brady and Warren Buffett.

"The drug control regime that emerged during the last century has proven disastrous for global health, security and human rights," the letter states. "Focused overwhelmingly on criminalization and punishment, it created a vast illicit market that has enriched criminal organizations, corrupted governments, triggered explosive violence, distorted economic markets and undermined basic moral values."

The U.N. General Assembly will hold a special session on global drug policy in New York this week. The purpose of the meeting is to set the tone and focus of global drug policy for the coming decades.

The last time the U.N. held such a session was in 1998. Proceeding under the official motto of "a drug-free world -- we can do it," member states vowed to "promote a society free of drug abuse" and to "develop strategies with a view to eliminating or significantly reducing" the production and use of illicit substances by 2008.

Since then, of course, a number of U.S. states have voted to fully legalize marijuana for recreational use. Portugal decriminalized the use of all illicit drugs. And the U.S. has seen an explosion in the abuse of prescription painkillers and heroin, and deaths caused by overdoses of those two drugs.

Reformers had hoped this week's special session would represent a change of course for the international drug control regime. But if the draft declaration that will be discussed at the meeting is any indication, this is unlikely. The language about promoting a society "free of drug abuse" and the need to "eliminate" the production of drugs remains in place.

VICE News reported that several diplomats pointed to Russia, China, Iran and Saudi Arabia as the primary opponents to changing the language.

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"Basically the bad guys had the upper hand" in negotiating the language of these documents, according to Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance, a reform group. "They were able to make sure that nothing bold or stunning happened in these things."

The irony of the U.N.'s inaction on drugs is that it makes it more likely member states will continue to chart their own paths forward on drug policy. State-level marijuana legalization in the U.S. has enraged the Russian director of the U.N.'s anti-drug program, but U.S. officials simply assert that the treaties allow for considerable "flexibility" in addressing drug issues.


While this is a difficult diplomatic needle to thread, there's little to stop officials in the U.S. -- and elsewhere -- from issuing appeals to this flexibility whenever they want to alter drug policy approaches in their own countries.

Indeed, the lesson of drug policy over the past 18 or so years seems to be that like politics, all drug reform is local. In the U.S., for instance, individual states have pioneered new directions on drug policy, particularly marijuana policy, in the face of gridlock at the federal level.

The U.N., meanwhile, has proven itself to be an even less-nimble organization than the federal government -- so don't expect it to be a significant player in drug policy discussions going forward.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, all 11.3 million illegal immigrants are infected with Zika.. they are all also HIV positive. <smdh>

You already have all the updated Zika info available. It is MY thread and I can talk about anything I want to talk about!
You know, like you do in every other thread.

? The thread evolved a bit. Talk zika all you want.

so now the Zika Virus will give people aids?
man, we need to do something about Zika and those gay illegal muslims

No, it's the mexicans that give people aids. The muslims are terrorists that kill people.

so now muslims are terrorist?

do they put the Zika virus in the IED's?

man i better get checked from that one explosion.

We do. That's why all of the immigrants that have it should go to Mexico, they have universal healthcare.

so what are we gonna do about the americans that went to latin america and brought it back?

since, ya know, thats how it got here in the first place.

should we send those americans or green card holders to mexico? even if they aren't from there?

No, the ones who went over there and brought it back just better have health insurance.... or we should just send them back to where they got it.

Raise your hand if you feel like this Zika thing is kinda like Swine Flu, Avian Flu, etc..... and COMPLETELY overblown.


::raises hand, twice::