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How do you know they didn't try?

Regardless of what Sashi & Co. have said, who's with me in thinking there's a GOOD chance we trade Joe Thomas at some point in the first round?

hahahaha, how this is a B+ I have no idea.

hahahaha, how this is a B+ I have no idea.

Regardless of what Sashi & Co. have said, who's with me in thinking there's a GOOD chance we trade Joe Thomas at some point in the first round?

The last one I did LA took Tunsil.

Question; Let's say we trade out of #2 and take a non-QB in the first, and Lynch is there at #32, do we take him?

Got to.

He's not going to be there though.

Heck, I'd trade up to 22 to grab him...

I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone in the top 10

Heck, I'd trade up to 22 to grab him...

That is going on the Assumption that Goff is our guy from this statement:

I keep hearing Cleveland favors Goff

Because we all know what people are hearing around Draft time is true...lol

All I know its who we are targeting. I can see a team who wants their QB to start game 1 and located in Southern California with good weather in their division. Also question is are the Rams running a strict WCO program?

Of course it all ends up who our guys were targeting. EITHER/OR...then we take the available QB at #2.
We will not pass up a Franchise QB elite if we think they could be one, regardless of the Kings Ransom...that would just support their decision to take the QB. Well before the draft became a focus. It was said by EVERYONE in that decision making process how important getting a Franchise QB.

RG3...yes we have him, yes we plan on getting him comfortable and to become the Great QB we think he can be.

I'm sure of that. But as a PLAN? No if the plan was that you don't sign them for 2 years...that is an experiment not a plan! Not enough so that they DO NOT PICK their Franchise QB in this draft!

jmho

I hope if Browns do draft a QB at #2 it is not another hope and prayer. Browns are more than likely handing Baltimore a gift of either Buckner or Jack

What Schefter did not address is when the Browns changed their mind. As of late-March, after the Browns signed RGIII, he said that the team's plan was to still draft a quarterback at No. 2 overall

Signing RGIII not expected to have any impact on what Cleveland does in draft.

A QB still expected to be the pick.

Lastly, Schefter said that San Francisco and Philadelphia are the most likely to trade with the Browns, but the New York Jets would like to try too but they are further behind in draft position. If the Jets try to use Mohamed Wilkerson to move up, he doesn't think the Browns are interested because they are not looking to add a big contract right now and instead want to focus on adding new talent with cheap contracts.

If we don't want to draft a QB or the QB we want is gone, trading down (and staying within the top seven or right) would be a coup.

This scenario would mean that the two QBs go #1 and #2 in some order. That would mean that one of Tunsil, Ramsey, Buckner, Bosa, and Jack (assuming he is healthy, which he may not be) would be available if we traded with the 49ers.

I wonder if Sashi is pushing the #2 trade to drive up the market price. If he doesn't get a blockbuster deal, he turns around drafting a QB.

Adam Schefter Says Browns Aren't Going QB at No. 2, and Are Taking the Highest Bidder for a Trade

By Chris Pokorny  @DawgsByNature on Apr 18, 2016, 7:34p 20

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On Monday, Adam Schefter of ESPN appeared on the Ross Tucker Podcast to talk about the top picks in the 2016 NFL Draft. A summary of what he had to say is below.
•If the draft were today, Schefter says the Rams would take QB Jared Goff. However, they want to be thorough and evaluate it, so it's within the realm of possibility that they discover something that would lean them toward QB Carson Wentz instead. The benefit of trading up to No. 1 overall is that they can really put both quarterbacks through the test now, knowing that no other team can jump them and take the guy they decide they like the most. He uses the year that the 49ers took QB Alex Smith as an example, saying they were going to take QB Aaron Rodgers, but changed their mind a week before the draft.


•Schefter caught everyone off guard with his response about Cleveland having decided already that they are not thinking quarterback at No. 2, but instead are selling that quarterback to the highest bidder. Here is a transcript on what he said about the Browns:

"Even before this trade was being made, I was of the understanding that Cleveland was not going quarterback. That was my firm and distinct impression and intel. Now if that is accurate, and I believe it is, then I think this trade is a good thing for Cleveland. Now, Cleveland is sitting in that second hole. If any other team wants a quarterback, and there are teams who want that other quarterback, they have to come to Cleveland, and Cleveland gets to name that price.

To me, I think the trade added to Cleveland's leverage because I don't think they intended to take a quarterback. They as an organization have new people, a new approach, a new perspective, and they have so many holes to fill. I don't think their perspective was, 'let's get a quarterback to play with all these holes and get his confidence trampled on right out of the box.' They've got RGIII, they feel good about RGIII, there's a connection between Hue Jackson and RGIII. The goal is to build all of the pieces on the team and then go get a quarterback."

•Lastly, Schefter said that San Francisco and Philadelphia are the most likely to trade with the Browns, but the New York Jets would like to try too but they are further behind in draft position. If the Jets try to use Mohamed Wilkerson to move up, he doesn't think the Browns are interested because they are not looking to add a big contract right now and instead want to focus on adding new talent with cheap contracts.

What Schefter did not address is when the Browns changed their mind. As of late-March, after the Browns signed RGIII, he said that the team's plan was to still draft a quarterback at No. 2 overall:

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/4/18/1...b-at-no-2-trade

If the QB they like is there, we take him. If they don't like the QB that is there, we don't take him. This isn't that hard. Drafting QBs for the sake of drafting QBs ("The Mary Kay") is a horrible strategy.

I still don't get the love affair with tiny hands goff. He might do fine in warm weather but you get him in our cold weather games and his hands shrink in from the cold and i promise you he will fumble too much. I know because his hand are smaller and weaker than mine(just trust me) and I have that same problem in the cold and playing catch with the old pigskin. Now Goff goes to LA where its always warm like brees to New Orleans and I think he might do ok.

I honestly don't see a QB in this draft that is worth taking in the top 10 talent wise. I'm all for trading down if we can stay in the top 8 of the draft.

I don't like taking pass rushers because in the most recent history of the Browns they have never panned out. They either don't have enough strength to play in the NFL or don't fit the 3-4 defense. Either take a QB you want or trade down slightly and draft Ezekiel Elliot from OSU. That's what the plan needs to be.

It's not just LaCanfora, it's everyone.

jc...


Report: Browns “initiating calls,” shopping No. 2 pick

Posted by Zac Jackson on April 19, 2016, 9:27 AM EDT
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The No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft was traded last week, and now the No. 2 pick is on the auction block as well.

NFL Network’s Jeff Darlington reported Tuesday that Browns executive vice president of football operations Sashi Brown has “initiated calls” to gauge interest in the No. 2 pick. Darlington said that “nothing is imminent,” but it’s clear that the Browns are shopping the pick and keeping their options open.

The Rams aren’t saying which player they’ll select at No. 1 and will meet with quarterbacks Carson Wentz and Jared Goff in Los Angeles this week. The Rams are picking one of those two, and if they pick the one the Browns thought they’d get when the Titans owned the top pick, a trade down makes sense.

The Browns open the extra minicamp they get because they have a new head coach on Tuesday. Robert Griffin III is the team’s starting quarterback until further notice.

For reasons beyond the Browns giving Griffin a chance to revive his career, the team might have been looking at positions besides quarterback and/or a trade down even before the Rams-Titans swap. The Browns have a new coach and a new front office again, and adding picks via a trade down could make sense because the roster has significant holes.

As for which teams might be anxious to take Brown’s calls, the Eagles have done too much homework on the quarterback class to not have at least some level of interest, while the Cowboys worked out Goff last weekend. A significant roadblock to a potential Browns-Eagles deal would be that the Eagles don’t have a second-round pick.