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Why would you want 4 out of 6 picks to be defense, it hasn't worked in the past. And you can't say they haven't tried it in the past, that's just about what they always do, and the record speaks for itself.

That old adage of "defense wins championships" is the last piece of the recipe.
It takes offense, coaching, teamwork, a team that can overcome adversity, through experience, and scoring points in a tight game to win it when you are down to another good team, because all NFL teams in the race are good teams.
And then it takes points off turnovers, and a dominant rushing game, and a front 7 that gets to the quarterback to get to the conference championship game.

Something gets you to the superbowl, maybe quarterback play.

Scoring first in the superbowl wins the game.

So at that very last piece of the puzzle,
" defense wins championships".

But if you undercut your own offense, then you have what the Browns have had for the last decade. +.

Just wanted to put this out there before tomorrow:

If we draft Paxton Lynch with the 8th pick, I will not be very happy.

What if they traded down again and selected Lynch somewhere between 13 and 18?

Less upset, but still not happy.

I'd say no. From all I've seen on here about this cat, he's a project.
I've had my fill of throwing away first round picks on QB projects.


That said, if we're going to do it, let's do it right and trade down to #22.... we get all the best QB's at #22.

His talent is not in question, but do we have the luxury to draft a project with a 1st tound pick ... No

I would be upset too.

Imo he needs to go to a team with a aging veteran QB.
Like the Cardinals, Bears, Saints or perhaps even SanDeigo. He mostlikly will not, but i think it will be a mistake to draft him and expect him to start any time soon.

Why don't we have the luxury of taking a 1st round project Qb?

We have RG3 and McCown to let him sit a year or 2 and develop.

We aren't going to have a winning record for a couple years regardless of who we take.

What's the downside? Now if you don't thing he can be developed, well that's a different story. But if any team is in is in the perfect place to draft a developmental Qb it's us.

I have this scenario in my head. It's unlikely.

Tunsil (or someone else Tenn wants) falls to 8, we trade to Tenn for 15 & 33. We draft Treadwell/Doctson at 15, Spence at 32, and Lynch at 33. Our 3 biggest holes are addressed by 8:15 PM Friday.

One of the huge advantages of having a young QB is that you don't have to pay him. We would be drafting a QB and [hopefully] sitting him two years. That is two years of wasted value.

I agree ... Only I don't agree with using a 1st round pick on a project at any position. We need players who can help us now. So no I don't think we have that luxury.

I will. It means that Hue Jackson just found his mate. I wouldn't worry about it though. I seriously doubt MKC is correct. She so seldom is. I think it will be a pass rusher or a LT. With a darkhorse chance of it being Elliot. Only because Jackson likes to run like 48% of the time and I really don't see Crowell being THAT guy. Not much chance of that but it's at least slightly possible. It's really hard to tell what these guys want to do. I just hope THEY know what they want to do and aren't just winging it.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/28/nfl-draft-peter-king-mmqb-10-things-im-hearing

Still wearing his Pop Warner helmet. lol

Well, Peter, no one but the Saints can pick him to be the heir to Drew Brees.

j/c

I wouldn't be opposed to trading back 1-2 times and drafting Lynch ... and then snagging the best WR available at 32

Great post.

I think a lot of people are forgetting what we did or didn't do in free agency and how we released Whit and Dansby. I think people are forgetting that Haslam has said it will take multiple years to build the team.

We aren't going to win next year. We aren't going to win the year after that. Lynch could be developed over that time period and he has the gifts to end up being the best qb in this year's class.

I am not saying we should take him........I'm just sayin...........

Lynch would be the best QB for us to take this year as it stands right now, considering we have the injury prone McCown and RG3 slated as the possible starters. Lynch could see some action later in the season to enhance his development.

Both of these guys are reaches at 8. There has got to be more talent available at 8 than these two "guys". The Browns need PLAYMAKERS. Period. Pass rusher or wide receiver. You don't take projects in the first round. I think all of us can agree on that.

That would be fairly big gamble if we're still thinking on taking a QB in the first. If our original target isn't there at #8 we need to take the BPA and move on to #32 and see how it all develops.

I think Lynch is going to have to sit for 1-2 years ... however, we have that luxury for two reasons: 1. We'll suck regardless 2. We have some vets who can fill the gap

If our target(s) are gone at 8 (Elliot, Buckner, Bosa ... whoever it is) I wouldn't be angry to move back and take Lynch

I don't believe there is any truth to the Saints interest in Paxton Lynch.
They drafted a QB Garrett? last year and I bet Sean Peyton's plan is to groom him behind Drew Brees the old fashioned way.

Maybe they already have realized Grayson is a scrub?

Lynch is worth #32 overall if he is there. Denver could pick Cook over him.

I think the Bills may be the team that grabs him though. They could sit him for a year and have a fallback plan when Tyrod Taylor leaves.

I have no proof of this, but Lynch seems like the type of qb Elway would like.

On the other hand, the Broncos are a team that can win now and Lynch is a guy who will take some time to develop.

That's my thinking too. They won't be able to afford him time to develop.

My point is, If we think a Qb draft prospect can develop into a stud Qb then there is no reason not to take him. We are in as good a spot as any to get that developmental Qb.

Now, the if that developmental prospect is there is certainly up for debate.

Lynch and Wentz weren't far off in my opinion and both needed a year to sit.

Goff was actually the 3rd QB on my board, but he is ranked higher by teams because he can play this year.

I think the reaches were already made with Goff and Wentz. Lynch above about 20 is probably a reach and Cook and Hackenberg above the 3rd round is a reach.

Ideally Lynch would get a year to develop but I have never felt he was that far behind Goff and wentz in terms of pro ready. At the end of the day, Lynch is the better passer and has the quick release I want. I would have no problem if we took him at 8 but would prefer trade down again try to get that xtra 2nd this year or another first next year.

I love his size and mobility and he has elite level arm strength to go with the great accuracy. I believe he can our QB for the next 15. RG3 was worth the risk but his skinny legs, style of play and inability to sense pressure makes him a short term solution.

Paxton Lynch is our long term solution. If RG3 is reborn yay for us. If not we got a backup plan with a hell of a skillset.

I tend to agree with him here. The trouble is that every draft we see some team panic.

I did mock him to the Bears @ 11, in part because I don't think Lynch will be avalible with their next selection.

I think that if he does go in the 1st ... then I think the Cardinals or Denver would be a likly landing spot or a team who trades just above the Cardinals.

From what I understand we may trade up ahead of SF to get lynch.

I wonder if Lynch will end up going 7th or 8th..........

Could happen if SF takes him at 7 or the Browns take him at 8 or trade w/someone who wants him there.

Where did you hear that?

Chad Reuter on NFL.com

I hope not ... Please Noooooo

Thanks.

Could be, anything is possible. Heck, lets even assume (even though there is no reason to believe so) that they do think Grayson is a scrub. Does that create such urgency at the developmental QB position that the FO would use valuable draft resources that should go to helping Drew/Sean make another SB to trade up for a QB?

I mean do you think the Saints are trying to trade up for Lynch?