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What you think will happen, not what you want to happen.

1. Rams - Goff
2. Eagles - Wentz
3. Chargers - Buckner
4. Cowboys - Ramsey
5. Jaguars - Jack
6. Ravens - Tunsil
7. Titans (trade up with 49ers) - Stanley
8. Browns - Conklin
9. Dolphins (trade up with Bucs) - Elliott
10. Giants - Bosa
11. Bears - Hargreaves
12. Saints - Lee
13. Bucs - Apple
14. Raiders - Doctson
15. 49ers - Treadwell
16. Lions - Rankins
17. Falcons - Nkemdiche
18. Colts - Spriggs
19. Bills - Lynch
20. Jets - Cook
21. Washington - Lawson
22. Texans - Henry
23. Vikings - Jackson III
24. Bengals - Spence
25. Steelers - Robinson
26. Seahawks - Kelly
27. Packers - Floyd
28. Chiefs - Alexander
29. Cardinals - Hackenberg
30. Panthers - Jospeh
31. Broncos - Dodd

What about you guys?

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Wow! A run on OT's before the CB's start to fall. I pass on Conklin unless he can also play LT...


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Originally Posted By: bbrowns32
Wow! A run on OT's before the CB's start to fall. I pass on Conklin unless he can also play LT...


Me too! In that scenario, I'd probably take Treadwell or Hargreaves and it appears that Decker would fall to the 2nd round and I'd be happy with that.

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1. Rams - Wentz
2. Eagles - Goff
3. Chargers - Buckner
4. Cowboys - Bosa
5. Jaguars - Ramsey
6. Ravens - Tunsil
7. Titans (Trade With 49ers) - Stanley
8. Dolphins (Trade with Browns) - Elliott
9. Bucs - Hargreaves
11. Bears - Floyd
12. Saints - Jack
13. Jets - (Trade With Browns) - Lynch
14. Raiders - Lee
15. 49ers - Treadwell
16. Lions - Lawson
17. Falcons - Bell
18. Colts - Decker
19. Bills - Ragland
20. Browns - Doctson
21. Washington - Joseph
22. Texans - Kelly
23. Vikings - Jackson III
24. Bengals - Coleman
25. Steelers - Alexander
26. Seahawks - Rankins
27. Packers - Reed
28. Chiefs - Fuller
29. Cardinals - Apple
30. Panthers - Burns
31. Broncos - Cook

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Very nice draft PastorMarc. I hope we got a haul of picks.

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Wow! A run on OT's before the CB's start to fall. I pass on Conklin unless he can also play LT...


Me too! In that scenario, I'd probably take Treadwell or Hargreaves and it appears that Decker would fall to the 2nd round and I'd be happy with that.


I would have expected the Lions to take either Conklin or Decker. Perhaps a DT though...


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What is up w/all of this love for Conklin all of a sudden? I never saw you guys talking about him before?

I smell something...........

Btw 32................did you post on what you would like and dislike on mgh's thread?

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If we pass on Bosa for another Tackle.....man I dunno

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Making holes to fill holes. Genius!

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
What is up w/all of this love for Conklin all of a sudden? I never saw you guys talking about him before?

I smell something...........

Btw 32................did you post on what you would like and dislike on mgh's thread?


Conklin has been talked up a lot on ESPN, especially by Kiper. He has us taking Conklin at #8.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
What is up w/all of this love for Conklin all of a sudden? I never saw you guys talking about him before?

I smell something...........


There is a little bit of smoke.

Also, to be fair, we have been discussing the #2 pick for most of the time. Conklin's name should have never come up in those discussions.

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Thanks...........I just hope the Browns are not that dumb.

I've been encouraged by the RGIII signing and the trade. I really hope they don't blow this draft by making dumb-ass picks like that one.

The Browns need IMPACT players. Not "guys."

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Very nice draft Pastor Marc. I hope we got a haul of picks.


I would say quite a few this year and next year thumbsup


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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
1. Rams - Wentz
2. Eagles - Goff
3. Chargers - Buckner
4. Cowboys - Bosa
5. Jaguars - Ramsey
6. Ravens - Tunsil
7. Titans (Trade With 49ers) - Stanley
8. Dolphins (Trade with Browns) - Elliott
9. Bucs - Hargreaves
11. Bears - Floyd
12. Saints - Jack
13. Jets - (Trade With Browns) - Lynch
14. Raiders - Lee
15. 49ers - Treadwell
16. Lions - Lawson
17. Falcons - Bell
18. Colts - Decker
19. Bills - Ragland
20. Browns - Doctson
21. Washington - Joseph
22. Texans - Kelly
23. Vikings - Jackson III
24. Bengals - Coleman
25. Steelers - Alexander
26. Seahawks - Rankins
27. Packers - Reed
28. Chiefs - Fuller
29. Cardinals - Apple
30. Panthers - Burns
31. Broncos - Cook


Good Lord !!! This looks like Nirvana. 2 trade backs and Doctson? The only thing to make this better would be to trade up and get Cook or have Denver pass on him so we can take him at the top of the 2nd.


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Btw 32................did you post on what you would like and dislike on mgh's thread?


I did. I enjoy the camaraderie and pleasure in participating as part of a group with the same likes...


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I don't know, man...........Conklin looks like a 20-36 guy to me.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't know, man...........Conklin looks like a 20-36 guy to me.


I predicted what I think we will do, not what I would do.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't know, man...........Conklin looks like a 20-36 guy to me.


I agree I have him going in the early 2nd

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What is up w/all of this love for Conklin all of a sudden? I never saw you guys talking about him before?

I smell something...........

Btw 32................did you post on what you would like and dislike on mgh's thread?


Conklin has been talked up a lot on ESPN, especially by Kiper. He has us taking Conklin at #8.


J/C:

I don't think Conklin is a player we should take a #8. First, he is not even close to grading out as high as some that were not picked in that first post's scenario. I think if we stay at #8 then we have to get an impact play maker, not a grinder grunt type of player.

With that said, if the team wants to get an offensive lineman then I think it would be best to trade down a few spots, if possible, and then pick someone up while getting additional picks.

I mean, can we afford to lose out on a play maker like Treadwell if he is on the board? I wouldn't think so.

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1. Rams - Wentz
2. Eagles - Goff
3. Chargers - Buckner
4. Cowboys - Bosa
5. Jaguars - Ramsey
6. Ravens - Tunsil
7. Titans (Trade With 49ers) - Stanley
8. Dolphins (Trade with Browns) - Elliott
9. Bucs - Hargreaves
11. Bears - Floyd
12. Saints - Jack
13. Jets - (Trade With Browns) - Lynch
14. Raiders - Lee
15. 49ers - Treadwell
16. Lions - Lawson
17. Falcons - Bell
18. Colts - Decker
19. Bills - Ragland
20. Browns - Doctson
21. Washington - Joseph
22. Texans - Kelly
23. Vikings - Jackson III
24. Bengals - Coleman
25. Steelers - Alexander
26. Seahawks - Rankins
27. Packers - Reed
28. Chiefs - Fuller
29. Cardinals - Apple
30. Panthers - Burns
31. Broncos - Cook


Good Lord !!! This looks like Nirvana. 2 trade backs and Doctson? The only thing to make this better would be to trade up and get Cook or have Denver pass on him so we can take him at the top of the 2nd.


In Pastor's draft why would you trade up to get Cook when he wasn't taken until #31? If you want Cook just stay where Pastor had us trade down too and take him there. More than likely Doctson will be available at the top of round 2.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't know, man...........Conklin looks like a 20-36 guy to me.


I don't think Conklin or Decker are NFL LT's. They'd both be really good RT's though.

I'm not sure I'd want either in the 1st round, but some teams might be a RT away from a solid o-line.

They have talent, but RT in the first round isn't something I want when we need so much.

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I think some of you know I like Spence as an impact player. He could be a guy we get if we trade down again.

Here is another guy who scares the crap out of me, but man, he interests me:

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17. Falcons - Nkemdiche


I think he is most physically gifted defensive lineman in the draft. He could be a Warren Sapp type..........in more ways than one.

What do you guys think?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I think some of you know I like Spence as an impact player. He could be a guy we get if we trade down again.

Here is another guy who scares the crap out of me, but man, he interests me:

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17. Falcons - Nkemdiche


I think he is most physically gifted defensive lineman in the draft. He could be a Warren Sapp type..........in more ways than one.

What do you guys think?


Too risky. I believe he may not be taken in the 1st round. In the bottom half of the 2nd, he may garner attention...


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Nkemdiche is talented yes but takes to plays off for a 1st round pick, thats why I have him in the 2nd round ...

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I think some of you know I like Spence as an impact player. He could be a guy we get if we trade down again.

Here is another guy who scares the crap out of me, but man, he interests me:

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17. Falcons - Nkemdiche


I think he is most physically gifted defensive lineman in the draft. He could be a Warren Sapp type..........in more ways than one.

What do you guys think?


Tons of talent, but tons of risk. I doubt he's on our board in the first round. If we are going to take on risk, I'd prefer Spence. They may both be there for us in the 2nd.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
What is up w/all of this love for Conklin all of a sudden? I never saw you guys talking about him before?

I smell something...........

Btw 32................did you post on what you would like and dislike on mgh's thread?


I guess it's my fault ... I mocked him to us a just after the trade (i was already working on a scenario if we where able to complete the trade with the Eagles) ... Rob Rang jumped on the bus mocking him to us on the 24th ... The rest is history.

It has been said that we spent more time at MSU's pro-day, with Conklin, then with Connor Cook.

So what you are smelling is not smoke, but rather the fire itself.

Meh! I've had that effect on the media for years.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I think some of you know I like Spence as an impact player. He could be a guy we get if we trade down again.

Here is another guy who scares the crap out of me, but man, he interests me:

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17. Falcons - Nkemdiche


I think he is most physically gifted defensive lineman in the draft. He could be a Warren Sapp type..........in more ways than one.

What do you guys think?


The knock I'm hearing is he doesn't play hard against lesser competition. I don't know how accurate that is since I have only seen him play against the likes of Alabama. I think his off field stuff is not worth the risk. I am a little gun shy after Manziel, Gordon and A. Bryant.


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I think cfrs's [is that the correct use of the apostrophe, cfrs, or should it come after the last letter in your name?] is pretty darn accurate. I see him going in the mid-teens to mid 20s. He might even go to Detroit at 16.

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LOL.......awesome post. thumbsup

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Okay...........I got one more:

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Personally, I think he goes higher than that. He is a Larry Donald type. Not the biggest guy [not talking about Donald there], but elite quickness [yes, talking about Donald here.]

I could see this guy going in the top 10, easily.

What say you?

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I think cfrs's [is that the correct use of the apostrophe, cfrs, or should it come after the last letter in your name?] is pretty darn accurate. I see him going in the mid-teens to mid 20s. He might even go to Detroit at 16.


If it were talent alone he'd be in the top 5. It only takes one team to think that they can handle the off the field stuff. I'm hoping that isn't us in the 1st round.

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I agree w/you about the top 5 talent. He's a freaking mystery.

Seriously, he does remind me a bit of Warren Sapp.......in a few ways.

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Okay...........I got one more:

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16. Lions - Rankins


Personally, I think he goes higher than that. He is a Larry Donald type. Not the biggest guy [not talking about Donald there], but elite quickness [yes, talking about Donald here.]

I could see this guy going in the top 10, easily.

What say you?


I really like him, but given his height, he's not a good fit for a 3-4 DE. You could use him as a role player in the interior. A 4-3 team is going to snap this guy up though.

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Yeah, you're right. Tampa Bay or Giants would be a better fit.

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I agree w/you about the top 5 talent. He's a freaking mystery.

Seriously, he does remind me a bit of Warren Sapp.......in a few ways.


He reminds me a lot of Jadeveon Clowney when he was a draft prospect. Both physical freaks.

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LOL.......awesome post. thumbsup
Thanx, Ver's

With no presidence to referencee with this FO ... all any of us have to go with is the trade ... The trade indicates to me that we are not going to do things as in the past. We have many holes to fill. The Eagles. held the 8th selection, so therefore any trade would have to be contingent on who we thought  would be the bpa @ the 8th selection and if we liked a prospect @ that spot.

Why will we go bpa? Because that is what trading down should indicate ... to do otherwise would be contrary to reasons for trading down.

We could have went for the quick fix @ 2.

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I live in SC and I can tell you that I always thought Clowney wasn't going to be worth such a high pick. I have some stories.

I don't think Nkemdiche has the length, sculpted body, and athleticism that Clowney has, but he is pretty darn physically gifted.

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We'll see. I am keeping an open mind, but we've traded down before and .....

I know that we can't judge this FO on the past FO's failures, but by the same token, we can't say they will succeed, either.

I think being open minded and judging each move individually is fair.

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We'll see. I am keeping an open mind, but we've traded down before and .....

I know that we can't judge this FO on the past FO's failures, but by the same token, we can't say they will succeed, either.

I think being open minded and judging each move individually is fair.


We can blow it right where we are @ #8 right now as well. I honestly wouldn't care if we traded down 2 or 3 more times if we picked the right players. The talent level is there, it's a matter of making smart choices with each pick.

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