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I will say one thing, the kid is a playmaker. In the return game too. He was the WR I wanted if we traded out of pick 8, as we did.
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He's a hair under 6 foot and 195. That's not exactly 5'10" midget size. Yep ... about the same size as Sterling Sharp.
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Cleveland Browns Scribbles: Drafting Corey Coleman is an excellent start for new front office -- Terry Pluto | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf...art_maj-story-1BEREA, Ohio -- Scribbles in my Cleveland Browns notebook as they finally make a pick in the first round: 1. I would have preferred the Browns to pick a more polished receiver in Laquon Treadwell, but I'm not going to pout about the Browns making Corey Coleman their first pick in the draft. They took him at No. 15, and I desperately wanted the Browns to grab a wide receiver with the physical ability to be a playmaker. The Baylor wide receiver caught 74 passes and averaged a whopping 18.4 yards per catch. 2. Coleman is listed at 5-foot-11 and 194 pounds. He ran a 4.4 in the 40-yard dash. He was a track star in high school. Let's face it, the Browns signaled a change of direction. They made an excellent trade to move down from No. 8 to No. 15, and they still had the pick of all the receivers in the draft. It's an excellent start for V.P. Sashi Brown and his front office. 3. Brown said: "He has the ability to turn small plays into long plays. Corey coming out early has a lot of time to develop as a receiver. We really wanted to add some speed to the offense." 4. Coleman is only 21, and analytics prefer younger players. The reason is they tend to have less wear and tear on their bodies, and they also have more time to learn. That's why Coleman was so appealing. 5. Coleman was the Biletnikoff winner as the top receiver in college football. With Baylor, he lined up as a wide receiver on 80 percent of plays. He was in the slot the other 20 percent of the time. He also can help as a kickoff and punt returner. The new Browns talk about "a Swiss Army knife," meaning he can fill various roles. That's what Coleman brings to the Browns. 6. Brown made a good point: "It's rare to be able to put up the first receiver on your board, yet also add some picks." 7. The Browns traded the No. 8 pick and a sixth-rounder to Tennessee for the No. 15 pick, No. 76 (a third-rounder) and a second-rounder in 2017. 8. The Browns now have two first-rounders and two second-rounders in 2017. 9. I love how Brown said Coleman "should put points on the board." 10. Like all players from Baylor, Coleman played in a spread offense with no real playbook. So he will have to learn that. But the adjustment is much less for a receiver than a quarterback. 11. The approach of trading down yet not ignoring the receiver position really is encouraging. It is indeed a different approach.
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Cleveland Browns are back in the playmaker business adding Baylor WR Corey Coleman: Tom Reed | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...art_maj-story-1BEREA, Ohio – The Ray Farmer era is officially over. After turning a blind eye to one of the game's most important positions the past three years, the organization added the first receiver taken in NFL Draft 2016, selecting fast and physical Corey Coleman from Baylor at No. 15 overall. The Browns opened Thursday holding the No. 8 overall pick, but traded it along with No. 176 to the Titans for Nos. 15 and 76 (third round) and a 2017 second rounder. It's a win-win for offensive-minded coach Hue Jackson and an asset-hungry front office. The Browns desperately needed to upgrade their wideout corps and got themselves one that led the nation with 20 touchdowns a season ago. Coleman gives them yet another under-6-foot receiver – he is 5-foot-11, 190 pounds – on the roster but he's more of a game breaker than what they have. He's also strong and sturdy for his size drawing comparisons to the Ravens' Steve Smith. When the Browns traded with the Titans some suspected it would be for Ole Miss' Laquon Treadwell (6-2, 221). He might have been a better fit in the AFC North with his size, but Coleman's speed and playmaking ability are superior. He averaged a touchdown every 4.5 catches over the last two seasons. The Browns' receivers had a total of eight TDs all last season. Jackson believes the Browns added one of the most dynamic players in the draft. They also lost one of the most dynamic players on their roster in Travis Benjamin. Will Coleman surpass Benjamin's production? He had better and I think he will once he adjusts from Baylor's spread offense and limited route tree to the pro game. Jackson is confident. "Touchdowns, he scores touchdowns," the coach said. "He can light it up." Browns fans must hope so after watching the club pass on the likes of Odell Beckham, Sammy Watkins and Mike Evans in the past two years. The Farmer era is history. Receivers are back en vogue with the Browns.
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I am rooting for him even though I wanted treadwell.
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a WR without a QB doesn't do us much good.
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rg3 will be a QB that is better than what we would have drafted most likely
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http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/reception-perception-2016-nfl-draft-prospects-results.htmlNo one should be surprised to see Corey Coleman was out “in space” than any other prospect in this class (19 percent of his routes). The uber athletic Coleman is one of the most dangerous players in the open field, and he compliments his physical gifts with a tough and aggressive mentality. Coleman broke multiple tackles at a higher rate than any other prospect. I love this quote. When the pick happened I thought we replaced Benjamin with a younger version, but hearing the commentators and reading this, I'm cautiously opptimistic and really like the pick.
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Well, they say this is the very guy they wanted. He was the first WR off the board. They had their pick of the litter. They say he's going to do great things. Now all that reamins is to see it on Sunday's.
Time will tell if they were right or if they were foolish. I remember the 09 draft and how happy everyone was we traded back and got Mack plus Robiskie Momass and.... crap what the hell was his name? David something I think? The point is time gives one perspective. We have none at this point.
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rg3 will be a QB that is better than what we would have drafted most likely I'll be happy if he survives an entire season....
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http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/reception-perception-2016-nfl-draft-prospects-results.htmlNo one should be surprised to see Corey Coleman was out “in space” than any other prospect in this class (19 percent of his routes). The uber athletic Coleman is one of the most dangerous players in the open field, and he compliments his physical gifts with a tough and aggressive mentality. Coleman broke multiple tackles at a higher rate than any other prospect. I love this quote. When the pick happened I thought we replaced Benjamin with a younger version, but hearing the commentators and reading this, I'm cautiously opptimistic and really like the pick. He is definitely not built like Benjamin. Benjamin was tiny. How much did he weigh? 170?
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http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/reception-perception-2016-nfl-draft-prospects-results.htmlNo one should be surprised to see Corey Coleman was out “in space” than any other prospect in this class (19 percent of his routes). The uber athletic Coleman is one of the most dangerous players in the open field, and he compliments his physical gifts with a tough and aggressive mentality. Coleman broke multiple tackles at a higher rate than any other prospect. I love this quote. When the pick happened I thought we replaced Benjamin with a younger version, but hearing the commentators and reading this, I'm cautiously opptimistic and really like the pick. He is definitely not built like Benjamin. Benjamin was tiny. How much did he weigh? 170? Comparing him to Benjamin is a lazy argument.
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http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/reception-perception-2016-nfl-draft-prospects-results.htmlNo one should be surprised to see Corey Coleman was out “in space” than any other prospect in this class (19 percent of his routes). The uber athletic Coleman is one of the most dangerous players in the open field, and he compliments his physical gifts with a tough and aggressive mentality. Coleman broke multiple tackles at a higher rate than any other prospect. I love this quote. When the pick happened I thought we replaced Benjamin with a younger version, but hearing the commentators and reading this, I'm cautiously opptimistic and really like the pick. He is definitely not built like Benjamin. Benjamin was tiny. How much did he weigh? 170? Comparing him to Benjamin is a lazy argument. I agree. Just to be clear, the person I was responding to was not comparing him to Benjamin.
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It sounds like we wanted Buckner at #8.
Buckner or Coleman and the picks?
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In hindsight, I think we did pretty well for Day 1. Granted, we could of stayed at #2 and done some things, and if Wentz or Ramsey turn out to be game-breakers, we might be kicking ourselves, but when you look at what Philly offered us for the spot, it's hard not to turn that down.
At the #8 spot, we probably did the best thing we could do. Who else are we taking there? just about everyone people WANTED us to take st #8 ended up sliding past the #15 pick anyway. Guys that we could of taken that went before #15 likely would not of moved the meter for most fans, and most would of probably complained about that too.
What we ended up getting was our top choice of WR (our biggest need), and a bevy of picks. 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 2 thirds and a fourth. That's a near RG3/Ricky Williams level haul.
We'll have to see if Coleman and these picks pan out, but from a draft execution level, I thought we did great. No reaches, great value, need filled.
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I am okay w/what the Browns did.
The top impact players that I wanted were gone. Hargreaves was an option for me at 8, but we got a pretty good deal to move down to 15.
I predicted that Coleman would be the first WR taken due to his speed. He's dynamic. A true playmaker and the Browns desperately need that.
I don't get the Antonio Brown comparisons at all. Coleman isn't a good route runner. Brown is a great route runner. In fact, my biggest concern is Coleman's route running.
The Browns still need a larger WR to help in the red zone and in short yardage situations. Maybe Michael Thomas.
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I love the pick, The Steve Smith comparison is spot on except Coleman is taller and faster. We had our choice of the group and I trust that they made the right choice. Maybe another Baylor Bear gets RG3 and Gordon excited to perform. Coleman, Gordon, Hawkins, Hartline , Barndidge is a rock solid pass catching group, not to mention the extra picks we aquired. So far, so good.
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The Browns still need a larger WR to help in the red zone and in short yardage situations. Maybe Michael Thomas.
Though it is not likely ... I'm intrigued at the future prospect of Coleman and Thomas
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what the hell was his name? David something ...Veikune.
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what the hell was his name? David something ...Veikune. quite possibly the WORST draft pick I've ever seen. and everyone knew it at the time
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I am okay w/what the Browns did.
The top impact players that I wanted were gone. Hargreaves was an option for me at 8, but we got a pretty good deal to move down to 15.
I predicted that Coleman would be the first WR taken due to his speed. He's dynamic. A true playmaker and the Browns desperately need that.
I don't get the Antonio Brown comparisons at all. Coleman isn't a good route runner. Brown is a great route runner. In fact, my biggest concern is Coleman's route running.
The Browns still need a larger WR to help in the red zone and in short yardage situations. Maybe Michael Thomas. Antonio Brown is an excellent route runner now. How was he coming out of college? I don't know, I don't even remember what college he went to.
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I think he was pretty raw and I believe it was Western Michigan ...
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The Browns never fail to disappoint. You guys would be disappointed if we drafted JIM BROWN!!! LOL It kinda feels that was sometimes.. What a crock! It is. The more annoying people are the ones who love every one of the Browns' picks and have been wrong the vast majority of the time. Then they berate those who don't embrace every little thing the organization does. It's ridiculous. I'm intrigued by Coleman's speed and I'm actually happy they went with a WR. I'm really interested in seeing what they do from here on out in this draft. I'm fine with the trading of picks so far, but I hope they are done with that, at some point it becomes foolish.
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We hope Corey Coleman turns out to be an outstanding pick. Honestly, I would have liked to see the Browns take a WR who is taller, in the range of 6-2 to 6-3...but hey, it's an ok pick.
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Some said he rounded his routes off at Central Michigan. I think the biggest knock on him was his size.
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The Browns never fail to disappoint. You guys would be disappointed if we drafted JIM BROWN!!! LOL It kinda feels that was sometimes.. What a crock! What's that mean?
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I think Coleman has the agility to run good routes, it is just expierence running the routes, it would seem.
Presumably the Browns would have tested Colemans ability to learn how to run routes. If he is willing to learn, Al Saunders is among the best to learn from.
I am concerned about some drops, but most elite WRers have that problem.
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Cleveland Browns Draft pick: Corey Coleman (No. 15 overall) Day 1 grade: B The skinny: Connecting Robert Griffin III with another ex-Baylor player, Corey Coleman, makes a lot of sense. Getting four extra picks to move down eight spots is a good deal, if you buy into the "more is more" theory when it comes to accumulating selections. Only capitalizing on the extra selections will make it a great deal. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000657476/article/2016-nfl-draft-quicksnap-grades-for-afc-teams
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Some of you guys are funny...right off the bat from DJ the Brown decision is terrible...lol
I probably more than anyone here DID not wish to see us take a WR. Of course much of my thought process was at #2 and then #8...I thought the move back from 8 was amazing. A lot of the picks were bunched up there in value. We got another 3rd and amazing 2nd in 2017 but they had that stock pile of picks. And the OT run was happening.
I stated all along that this was a strong class for OL and OT...a total of 7 OL went the first round.
Back to our pick...so my initial reaction was Nooooo a WR! I did not study the WR but I know Clevesteve did and wanted heck 2 early he stated he didn't want Coleman.
But of course I studied him there are some interesting things about him.
1. He is a fraction shy of 6' (Manziel range...lol). 2. His 40 time at pro day was him around 90% due to surgery recovery (hernia???). But still sub 4.4 3. Maybe the best playmaker here since Metcalf...and he won't be our RB. 4. Coaching time, we must have faith in his ability to learn which would make him great. 5. We RG3 here a bonafide QB...he ain't no HOYER. 6. Many many here wanted a playmaker, who was better than him? He can stretch the field create space for others, Speed has to have them give a cushion...wow on the quick bubble screens.
So although me I wanted Shaq Lawson at the time. Instead of claiming the Browns blew it. I got over it and love the pick.
What I love most about the pick. It was who we were targeting. Just at #2 and #8 not a good place...so we ended up with the first WR taken and the guy we wanted with mega picks gained.
The Matrix guys were ecstatic that they were able to carry out there plan so smoothly.
Hey - we got probably the best playmaker out there. When Mayock said think Percy Harvin...less than a minute after the pick. Was when I stopped sulking and went really!! As mentioned I didn't bother to look at the group until further down the draft board. When I learned more about him and Davis and DJ two guys I like about the draft. Had him as their #1 WR. I'm wondering why our WR experts on this board didn't have him there.
jmho...oh and DJ...there was no OGB in this draft.
Onto the next 6 top 100 picks we have now! Kick butt!
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I definitely didn't want Will Fuller, I had Treadwell as my #1 and Docston as my #2...with Coleman right behind them...
As we saw Treadwell went to the Vikings right after Will Fuller and Docston were drafted...so I assume teams had different feelings on the wideouts....definitely thought we needed a red zone threat...But adding Coleman is definitely a move in the right direction...our WR core was in shambles, after Michael Thomas in round 2...the WR class takes a big dip IMHO...
The way I see Coleman is alot like a step quicker/shiftier Kendall Wright
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Just posted here for sorry for any repeats.
I love how he attacks the ball and the burner speed he obtains, and I love we had our choice at the first WR off the board, but his size, which was my concern before, still lingers. I hope he can adjust to a non spread offense where he'll be asked to run real routes.
I like the position pick though. We need a WR, this pretty much says "Yeah, we have someone named Gordon, but he's useless" and I couldn't agree more.
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j/c...
Some of you guys are funny...right off the bat from DJ the Brown decision is terrible...lol
I probably more than anyone here DID not wish to see us take a WR. Of course much of my thought process was at #2 and then #8...I thought the move back from 8 was amazing. A lot of the picks were bunched up there in value. We got another 3rd and amazing 2nd in 2017 but they had that stock pile of picks. And the OT run was happening.
I stated all along that this was a strong class for OL and OT...a total of 7 OL went the first round.
Back to our pick...so my initial reaction was Nooooo a WR! I did not study the WR but I know Clevesteve did and wanted heck 2 early he stated he didn't want Coleman.
But of course I studied him there are some interesting things about him.
1. He is a fraction shy of 6' (Manziel range...lol). 2. His 40 time at pro day was him around 90% due to surgery recovery (hernia???). But still sub 4.4 3. Maybe the best playmaker here since Metcalf...and he won't be our RB. 4. Coaching time, we must have faith in his ability to learn which would make him great. 5. We RG3 here a bonafide QB...he ain't no HOYER. 6. Many many here wanted a playmaker, who was better than him? He can stretch the field create space for others, Speed has to have them give a cushion...wow on the quick bubble screens.
So although me I wanted Shaq Lawson at the time. Instead of claiming the Browns blew it. I got over it and love the pick.
What I love most about the pick. It was who we were targeting. Just at #2 and #8 not a good place...so we ended up with the first WR taken and the guy we wanted with mega picks gained.
The Matrix guys were ecstatic that they were able to carry out there plan so smoothly.
Hey - we got probably the best playmaker out there. When Mayock said think Percy Harvin...less than a minute after the pick. Was when I stopped sulking and went really!! As mentioned I didn't bother to look at the group until further down the draft board. When I learned more about him and Davis and DJ two guys I like about the draft. Had him as their #1 WR. I'm wondering why our WR experts on this board didn't have him there.
jmho...oh and DJ...there was no OGB in this draft.
Onto the next 6 top 100 picks we have now! Kick butt!
Not boosting, but after we traded back from 8 to 15 ... I called for Coleman. Btw those of you who thought i was crazy for mocking Conklin @ pick 8 ... How crazy does it sound this morning?
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I said Coleman would probably be the first WR off the board because the NFL loves speed.
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Joe Banner liked the Browns' Day Browns completely dominate first round, and the "football guys" and pundits don't seem to have even noticed.
Wasn't really the guy I wanted, but I didn't spend as much time looking at him as the bigger receivers. We did need an offensive playmaker, and while he's not the greatest blocker he may help the run game by forcing a safety out of the box.
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