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when we pick last in the first round

I know I am a broken record on this. You can trade down and still get a good player.

I suspect we will have the first pick in the draft. At least for a while....

Yes you can. By trading down to acquire more assists to use. I think with the last trade they have set their board for 2017. I also think by throwing in this years 6th round pick it shows they do not have any interest in picking more than 12 players this season. I think they will trade down from 32 and then start firing some of those assists to get back into the 2nd round. I think they will end up with 2 2nds and only 2 3rds and 4ths when all is said and done.

Is anyone else completely against taking a right tackle? Is it just me?

Something to keep in mind. Pro football focus had Buckner as it's #2 overall player, the Browns wanted him. PFF had Coleman as it's #1 WR

j/c

Trade back again or take Ragland. Both may be possible. I could live with a trade down and take Thomas, too.

You’re not alone CHS. Also Chris Jones is PFFs #2 best available player. He's definitely a guy to keep an eye on.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/04/28/draft-top-50-available-draft-prospects-for-day-2/

The question still remains who do we take? We do have to actually select some players at some point..... Everyone is wheeling and dealing pick #32 So who do you want to GET for all of this? That is basically a first rounder. I would want a LOT for that pick. I mean a whole lot. If the Jets called and offered Wilkerson then I might be interested..... Now that I could abide. He's young and he's very good. He'd fit our scheme very nicely. We have the cap room to sign him to a deal. Either that or I want a first next year.

If he is the very best player on their board at the time then by all means.

It doesn't seem like the value is there.

I'd only trade down if we could net another 2nd round pick but to be honest I"d rather just take the BPA

It could be something, it could be nothing.

Hue Jackson and Myles Jack have the same agent.

RD 2: (32)
RD 3: (64, 65, 77)
RD 4: (99, 100, 138)
RD 5: (141, 172, 173)
RD 7: (223)

That mattered in the Holmgren era.

I kinda want Spriggs

First pick of the second round with a night to think about it, is prime for a trade, analytically speaking

Following Aditi Kinkhabwala on Twitter yesterday (thanks cfrs) and she said late in the round that we were already receiving calls about pick 32. Not sure what kind of value we could expect in return. Kinda leaning towards staying there unless some ridiculous offer comes in.

Not too many people on this thread mentioned Spence. Playmaker on D, I would be OK with him. If we want a big WR there is Michael Thomas.

The fact that Jack fell this far tells me about his medical, so I want nothing to with him. If he falls to the 3rd, maybe.

Cook at 32 or Hackenburg anywhere would make angry.

I'm liking this. We could move down again if we want.

What was that Flag that got attached to Ragland yesterday?

Do we continue with Offense and go Henry RB?

Man, I love Ragland in the middle of this D.

Ragland - enlarged aorta

I wonder if there is a precedent for a player coming back from the same type of injury and having a successful career. I would like to see us take Jack but I don't know what is real concern regarding his knee and what is internet conjecture.

I think some of these guys heard that the Browns were going to trade down a lot this year and they keep saying that to protect the FO. We have plenty of picks. We need talent.

Here is what I am thinking:

Spence
Dodd
Ogbah
Michael Thomas

j/c

My second round target is Jarran Reed. Might be able to trade back slightly and still get him. I'm skeptical of Shelton's ability to excel as a two-gap DL. I'm not skeptical of Reed.

The way he's falling, I think you can get him in the 3rd round or even later.

I hope we get more Oline help. But we have 10 picks left and we picked up more for next season in the process.

Lots of chances to do well.

He's an option. So is his teammate, Robinson.

Did you hear Saban's comments on his top players last night? Robinson was the guy he praised the most.

OT Jason Spriggs, Excellent in Pass Pro, needs a little more strength in the run game but that will come with a full time NFL conditioning program. Like the fact he played a tough schedule against big time pass rushers. Seems like a clean prospect who could eventually slide over to replace JT when his time is done, and of course fills a huge need.

I think it's too early to take a RB...there's always still great talent left to early round 4 there...Alot of the elite OTs are gone...Spriggs is left, but 99% of mocks had him going somewhere in the second round anyways...Alexander the CB is left...I personally thought he would be gone at the end of round one. I'm not sure if or how many teams have two 2nd rounders laying around, but that would be the only way I trade out of the #32 overall slot...possibly land OT Spriggs in a slight trade down...and get OLB/DE Calhoun at the end of the round

I like both Reed and Robinson. Interesting thing is that all throughout the season Robinson was the stud of the dline for Alabama. However, since the season ended, people have been predicting that Reed gets drafted 1st. ???

I think that I would also be okay with Jack or Ragland - I really would like to see their medicals personally. What's the exact issue with Jack's knee. How big is Ragland's aorta?

Dodd and Ogbah are interesting but I feel they ar more suited for a 4-3 base defense.

Billings is a productive guy. We can become BAylor North

Not interested in Alexander

Apprehensive about Spence because of the off the field issues - if we take him I hope we look into him better than we did Gilbert.

Not interested in the oline guys here. I think we can get similar quality players with our next pick.

Bullard and Correa are intriguing options.

Cook may be the most controversial pick

Don't know enough about Jihad Ward or Chris Jones to comment

May be a little high for Correa

I think Cravens if highly overrated and do not want him in the 2nd round round. Not sure I would want him in round 3.

Torn on Derrick Henry.

I like Nick Martin, Josh Perry, Darrien Thompson, Tyler Boyd, Sterling Shepard and of course any of the guys listed above as potential targets at the top of the 3rd round.

Sorry for the randomness of thoughts. I ran down the list of players YTown posted from cleveland.com as the top available players and typed out comments as they came into my head. Hope this doesn't come across as too scatter brained.

I'd be shocked if he makes it to the 3rd ... I'd bet he won't make it to pick 45

Interesting that Calhoun isn't on the list of top available players from cleveland.com. He could become and impactful 3-4 OLB.

Tru_dawgs - would you move down for a 2nd rounder in next year's draft?

I am not completely against it, it's just there isn't one left that I would take at 32.

I do not want Henry and I do not want Cook.. I could get behind a couple of the defensive players listed...

And I'm very worried about Jack, we absolutely cannot afford to use the #32 pick in the draft on a player who may never play in the NFL at 100%... or if he's still there into the 3rd or 4th, then I'm strongly considering it.. but not at #32.

DE Robinson
OT Spriggs
OLB Spence
OLB Ogbah
DE Jones
WR Thomas
DT Billings
FS Bell
CB Alexander
LB Jack

If we drop:
WR Braxton
WR Cooper
OLB Calhoun
DL Ward
DL Bullard

Trade back.. try to acquire no less than an extra 3rd/4th this year or next...

And again.. Snag Derrick Henry. Freaking monster RB or Jonathan Bullard. One of the best run stopping DE's and super quick off the snap!

Spence

I'm kind of leary of trading into next year's draft again (I want to start seeing results on this team, however I do realize we probably possess the worst roster in football and its going to take time...there's alot of talented football players left)

I still view our biggest holes right now as OT, pass rusher, and yes another WR...(not far behind we definitely need secondary help, a RB as Duke and Crow only combined for 4 total TDs last year, I'm assuming we are going to try to land a QB high in next year's draft with these picks accumulating)

We will have big trouble if we only have Rahim Moore, Poyer, and Campbell as our safeties...

That being said...I really would love two second round picks...after a slight trade down...

2- Spriggs OT-fills huge need

2- Calhoun OLB-our pass rush is horrid...I wouldn't mind Von Bell here either

3. Tyler Boyd WR-has some concerns but would be much needed WR help

3. Jalen Mills-will shore up FS spot, can slide to CB if needed

3. Will Redmond CB-we draft so many CBs yet somehow always need them lol

4. Jordan Howard RB- Always great RB talent at the very top of round 4...remember when I was begging for us to draft Lamar Miller a couple years back.

4. Jerell Adams TE- playmaker TE as we have nothing behind Barnidge

4. Jack Allen C- if Erving doesn't work out...great pick here

5. Jayron Kerse SS- here's a big body to back up Campbell at SS

5. Brandon Shell RT- pure RT for depth

5. Kevin Hogan QB- why draft a QB high this year when everyone knows we will be grabbing one next year..

6. DL depth

7. According depth/special teams

I would think Jack would be worth the risk in the 2nd.

I just think we've already invested so much on that 3 man DLine...alot of money and high draft picks...we have alot of capable bodies (admittingly alot of them aren't very good...even though we drafted them or gave them big bucks) I think we have alot of holes to fill first...upgrading the Dline is almost a luxury to me IMHO...I think that will come more or less next year...However I do like Chris Jones alot!

i was just telling my friend yesterday that if we do any more trading i hope we get the extra picks for next year.
if we had 100 xtra picks this year would they really be on the final roster anyway?

I always thought Myles Jack was overrated even before his possible microfracture issue...He's quick fast with instincts don't get me wrong..
But I just didn't see possible top 5 pick in him. Just my opinion