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Yep. I'm all for letting Hue have his guy, but why take him here when most had him going so late? Was there a real threat of others taking him or was Hue impatient?

If he make a QB out of him, who cares. If he flops, Hue is married to him two years from now... Or is he? Maybe we are going to play the odds by getting QBs every year, and looking for that diamond in the rough.

I really don't care at this point. They can pick whoever they want, I just want them to start producing wins. We already know this season is a planned bust, and probably next season too. The third year is where the games will really start to count.

Exactly. I'm not questioning selecting him ... it's WHERE we selected him. The third round?! There are still viable starters available! Why not take him in the 6th ... he'd be there

Hmm...

I understand what Hue likes about him: dependable, smart, game manager type. Pretty good pocket feel considering limited athleticism.

BUT, I don't see the arm/accuracy every working at starter level in the NFL. More of a checkdown artist. If he's reluctant to throw it deep in College playing in California, he won't do it in the NFL in Cleveland.

High floor, very low ceiling type. Will be a backup for a long time. Maybe there's value in that? Polar opposite of Connor Cook, who I actually liked because he reminded me of Weeden

Think AJ McCarron...

I personally didn't want Cook ... BUT I'd prefer him over Kessler. At least Cook has some upside IMO. Kessler has ZERO ceiling.

Cook must have been a huge jerk

You may think that, but you don't know that. This is the guy Hue wanted, so we got him.

Since Cody was the guy we wanted, better to pick him a round early then wait a pick too late. No?

I've noticed the same. Seemingly every college marching band plays 'O Fortuna'. I'd like to see a highlight clip set to that.

Yeah, said something similar in the chat the other day. You gotta keep drafting "Weedens", especially if you can have them with mid round picks and you have multiple of them. Eventually you'll luck into one with half a brain.

Guy's like Kessler are much safer picks and will have longer careers, but you'll keep looking for a QB every year if thats all you have. Colt McCoy, McCarron, Keenum, A.Davis etc etc

I don't need volume to watch a vid.

With all the other needs the Browns have, I fail to understand why this pick was made. Surely, there was more talent available at positions of need. I look at guys like Miller and Vannett as examples (not being a Buckeye homer - just two players off of the top of my head).

Hoping he turns out to be more than a glorified clipboard holder. I suppose we will see.

Kessler is my least favorite pick would have preferred Justin Simmons or Nickel Vsnnett

This was a bad pick because at the very least, we could have taken him with one of the FOURS on Saturday. Two guards, a safety and a tight end all went after we took this guy. No one was going to select him in the third. And really, this cat could have been taken much, much later - maybe even as a free agent. So in that sense, it was a wasted pick.
I know people will say, "If it's your guy, you go get him." Yeah, no.

31 (93) Cleveland Browns: Cody Kessler | Grade: B-
(Pick acquired in trade with Carolina Panthers)

One of the most accurate quarterbacks in the class, Kessler ranked third with a 78.2 percent accuracy percentage while finishing fourth with a 68.5 percent accuracy percentage under pressure. He struggled with passes beyond 20 yards (31st in accuracy percentage at 37.5 percent) but Kessler can run the offense and move the chains at the short and intermediate level.

j/c:

This pick baffles me. He is a smart kid. He's a very hard worker. He put up big numbers. But man, he can't throw a good pass over 15 yards.

Terrible pick. Wasted pick.

It's probably outdated thinking by me at this point, but I'm still in the "never trust a USC QB" camp.

We have 8 more picks today and the first two off the clock. Spend one of them on Cook and let the two duke it out for 3rd string.

I don't think they should have drafted a qb at that spot, but I would have taken Hogan or Cardale before Kessler.

Kessler is 6'1" tall. His ball flutters on anything over 15 yards. Man!

They were bound to take a QB at some point and that spot is only 6 higher than their next two picks. That's not a whole lot of difference.

I guess I just don't understand this pick.. I was with them all the way with everyone else, but this one confuses me.

We probably could've picked him up in the 7th or as an UDFA, or not at all and been better off because we could've taken someone we actually needed. Austin Hooper, Le'Raven Clark, Kendall Fuller or even Braxton Miller would all have been better picks in positions of need.

While we may have drafted a two or three potential starters, all of them need coached up, have short comings and have potential for bust. IMHO, nothing in this draft so far warrants giving up a shot at a franchise QB, so here we are, hanging hope on a likely low first round pick next year and a couple future second round picks that are going to somehow make the trade and the trade downs miraculously valuable. Unless of course, we haven't found our superstars yet. We still have four rounds to go. Yay! Go Sashi Browns!

God no! Why would you compound a mistake with a blunder?

What QB has been successful in the league who has a weak arm? When defenses know you won't go deep, they dragggggg you!!

How did we acquire this pick?

The Philly trade? The Titan trade?

Trade down from Carolina, it was their pick. We also picked up a fourth and swapped (I believe) 5ths.

i think it was whoever we swapped with in the 3rd.

I'm not gonna try to judge this pick. However, I'm pretty confident Hue was very much a part of the decision.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/index.html

I believe the first video shown is a conversation with Cody. Hue's comments, IMO, tell me he was high on him.

LOL............I was way off.

Thanks.

They were bound to take a QB, if not Cook or Kessler then who would not have been a blunder?

I agree. It also shows that this was our QB target. We could have had Wentz, but this is Hue's guy, the guy he wanted. Our football guy made this pick. No sense waiting a little too long and losing him.

No see, you misunderstand me. We obviously have to live with the mistake. There's just no reason to compound that with the blunder of taking Cook too. But since you're asking, if you're going to take a project who may eventually be able to play NFL football and throw deeper that 20 yards, I go with Dak Prescott or even Cardale before I'd take Cook or Kessler.

You know, because none of us can make any sense of this player at that slot there must be something we don't know or are not considering.

Maybe Kessler has a rocket arm for the ages but made it his life-long goal to not reveal that until he stepped on an NFL gridiron and Hue got wind of it, or, as the evening wore on our FO had a few too many drinks and forgot what round they were in, or, Jimmy sat silent but Dee pulled rank because she thinks Kessler's cute and wants to fix him up with her niece.

Probably none of that stuff. So what is it they were thinking. There has to be some kind of sense in it I would think. Hmmm...

Obviously our coach feels differently.

Maybe he's not done growing, and he'll get taller and stronger. I'm sure they're doing amazing things with genetics and gene therapies at USC.

Or, maybe they just made a mistake.

Obviously.

Kessler's 2014 tape seems a lot better than his 2015. He has a little Tom Brady to his game.

He really seems to have missed Agholor and Buck Allen.

I noticed the C on his chest in the 2014 Arizona State game so he was a multi-year team captain.

Maybe the arm strength can improve.

Pretty much... so they gave up pick 77 for a 4th and a QB with the high ceiling of a Hoyer / Mc carron ... urp

Maybe. Only time will tell on that one. This is the guy Hue wanted. He says to trust him. He is convinced this guy will be the real deal...I didn't want to say real McCoy .

Hue seems to think arm strength is over rated. He wants them smart and accurate. That's what he went out and got.

j/c

This is like one of those picks I mentioned somewhere where it's easy to talk yourself into liking or at least justifying the pick..... Having said that I think it's too high. And having said that ... like someone else said - if we'd taken him 6 picks later "in the 4th round" I doubt I'd bat an eye.

The reason for concern = 6'1" and loses accuracy when on the run... and an 'average arm' ... whenever I read that I think 'noodle arm'! We'll see.

Reasons the pick might make sense = he's very football smart and I love smart QB's - accuracy from the pocket is very high - Has gone through 5 HC's and still been very productive. I think Shaw is gone for sure. . . . I think there's agood chance one more leaves too. Personally I like McCown and would keep him despite his age. I love his team mentality and selflessness.

I read where Hue said something like: "you'll just have to trust me on this one."

Why?

Wasn't Hue responsible for the Raiders trading for Carson Palmer and getting Pryor in the Supplemental Draft?

Sorry Hue...........I don't trust you on this one.

This pick kinda reeks of Hue's interference. The Browns went away from what was working for them.

This one could be a joke for a years. The Browns passed on Wentz and ended up w/Kessler.

Where is that one guy........oh, what's his name....loves Alabama? I can envision him saying:

"What's a Cody Kessler?"

we just need to pull a New England with this guy... let him sit and learn have two or three really good games in relief that overstates his value then dump him off for a high 2...