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It seems my post has stirred a lot of back and forth about liking or trusting Jimmy Haslam. FOR THE RECORD, no where in my post do I say or even imply that I like or trust Jimmy Haslam. Anyone who inferred that, did exactly that, infer.

I simply stated my case for why I believe this regime will have at least 3-5 years to build their team.

Well, perhaps you should have done so. No fence-sitting...

For some reason, I find the combination of your comment with your signature quote amusing.

How so? I don't find it particularly contradictory...

I thought you were joking. If you weren't then...My post was never about how I feel about JH. Then there was a string of now deleted, very contentious posts based not on what I said, but on what someone inferred. As someone said in one of the deleted posts, JH is the owner, and he's not selling the team. He's a fact of life for me as a Browns fan, whether or not I like him is beside the point. My point is and remains that I believe this regime will have more time to prove themselves than previous regimes under Haslam. My case has been stated.

I agree with you. While there may be a few comings-n-goings, I believe the core group will be given sufficient time to allow this "regime" to succeed (or less likely, fail). And you are correct, I was being light-hearted...

Or they simply prove themselves before Jimmy blows it up again after their second season.

There seems to be a different feel around the team, I can't explain it but it feels alot better than before ... JMO

Not trying to be negative but every regime change seems to feel a lot better than before......right up to the point of actually winning football games. We'll see. I hope these analyst guys know what they're doing here.

Exactly!! We have had this "things are feeling different this time" since Dwight Clark/Palmer and with each new regime comes the same old result. With they way they started cleaning house on the only couple of talented players that we had left except for JT, it would be an absolute miracle if they were able to turn this thing around before Criminal Haslam fires them all.

Preach.

I don't get taken by regime changes. I though Pettine was a paper tiger, who looked like a football coach, but was far away from it. I was right. I was/still am enamored with Chud. I knew how screwed we were with Pat, and I only expected how screwed we get from The Walrus, I thought he got struck by lightening twice and has been living off the hype ever since. But I feel pretty good about this group that we have going together. They seem to all be willing to hold themselves accountable at the end of the day. The Walrus, Shurmur, and Pet didn't even have the decency to do that.

If anything this coaching staff isn't going to try to be
The players best friends or buddies like past regimes
No more coddling or playing favs.
The fact that guts like JFF (JOHNNY FAILED FOOTBALL)
and Josh Gordon are no longer creating a cancerous enviroment.

Just the way their draft was set up and the things they did in FA, tell me that a three year plan, at least, has been set forth. They said they wanted to build thru the draft, and they have set themselves up for that.

You've never read more about conditioning after the first weekend of rookie minicamp? I did a quick google search for some facts and saw articles regarding the importance of preparation in off season workouts from a multitude of years. I do love your optimism, but give me something real to latch onto.

True... Camp Cup Cake seems to have closed in Berea. Hopefully forever.

Hopefully it doesn't turn into Camp M*A*S*H Unit.

eotab,
I am sorry that you feel I am implying you are a liar. I certainly did not intend that and I do not think you are a liar. I think you are a passionate fan.

You stated that you wanted to, “look at some facts.” You then gave your opinion without supporting it with anything more than your balls and your word. You wouldn’t want someone to just ASSume what you say is infallible, would you? I read Jackson’s comments, following the first rookie minicamp practice, and agree that a strong emphasis on proper conditioning is a good thing. However, I don’t see that as evidence of the greatest difference in conditioning from “coaches, players, and trainers,” that I have ever seen.

I understand you want to be excited; I do too. If it’s a case of wanting a reason to get pumped up and you just exaggerated I understand, but own it. I don’t feel that I am treating you unfairly. I’m holding you to a high standard because you are capable of meeting the challenge. Now, you can be upset and provide a snarky reply to get the last word in or you can step your game up. Your choice.

I think a balance can be found, especially with the vet players who don't have nearly as much to prove.

Maybe you should be, and maybe you should.

I remember talk early in the offseason about specifically targeting non contact soft tissue injuries. We had a lot of that in training camp last year.


By Tom Reed, Cleveland.com on January 21, 2016 at 10:32 PM, updated January 21, 2016 at 11:26 PM


BEREA, Ohio – More helmets, fewer bucket hats.

That's what Sashi Brown wants to see next when he surveys the practice fields during Browns' training camp. Because the seeds of a ruinous 3-13 campaign a year ago were sewn last summer with a score of muscle pulls and soft-tissue injuries that left too many key players watching from the sidelines dressed like beachgoers.

Forget first string, second string or third string. The story of the 2015 training camp was the hamstring and it left the Browns playing catch-up well into the season. And while the club ultimately suffered more from a lack of talent than health, Brown wants to eliminate as many excuses as possible as he leads it into a new era.

... Brown discussed the role of high performance director Adam Beard, who arrived last year right before the start of training camp. Beard, an Australian who comes from a rugby background, fits the slightly unconventional lean the Browns are employing.

"Adam was with us last year, he understands we were all frustrated by the soft tissue injuries," said Brown, the team's former general counsel. "We will put in place significant resources to identify why those injuries occurred and put processes in place and systems in place to make sure that we address that and don't have a repeat and that really is his job.

... When the Browns held a two-day joint practice with the Bills last summer, 20 of the 90 players were idle. Ten players nursed soft-tissue injuries: six hamstrings, two calf strains, one hip flexor and an abdominal injury.

The secondary, expected to be the strength of the defense, was particularly hard hit. The starters rarely practiced together in camp and the lack of cohesion was evident early in the season.

... Over time the hope is finding ways to cut down on nagging ailments and the days spent in the trainers room. Embracing the technology and science is smart move by the Browns.

... But don't be surprised to see a much different approach to the off-season and training camp. There's going to be a greater focus on conditioning and less tolerance for veterans in bucket hats.


I cherry picked sections from the article above. The entire story can be read in the link below.

Cleveland.com