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Hue meant what he said. A lot of them aren't in NFL shape. Things are different now. It's their profession now not just a game. Those that dig that and get in shape will stick. Those that do just enough to get by will be gone....

Hue said they will have to learn how to run ALL DAY.

I like Hue's approach to motivating his players so far..

Drafts the guys and says they are all great. Now come practice, and he motivates them to get in better shape by giving constructive criticism with a twist.

He's probably that guy that can curse you out without cursing, and you walk away from the conversation like wait.. what just happened. Did he diss me, or compliment me? lol.

Like this.........???

A 4 year old article? Things/people change...

but agendas don't...

Orrrr.... he could be a Bruce Banner type...

Seems friendly at first.. but then its down hill when you make him upset.

Guess I'll let the season play out and see how things go. lol.

I won't touch on that one...

J/c

Media doesn't hesitate to create a 'story' out of nothing.

Its a rookie mini-camp press conference.

Not a game.

Not even a pre-season game.

Not even a regular season padded practice.

Not even a training camp padded practice.

Not even a 1s vs 1s half-pad practice.

Not even a full squad OTAs.

It a presser about a rookie mini-camp "practice" in shorts.

J/c

...so do you want a guy who is happy with losing?

j/C

Jackson's remarks about Coleman's conditioning were just that. Nothing more should be attributed to them. It doesn't appears as if the player took it as anything more than coaching. That's a coach's prerogative.

Coleman responds to "better shape" remarks

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Even if he could catch his breath, Browns top pick Corey Coleman wouldn't argue with Hue Jackson, who called him out Friday for not being in shape.

"It's the truth,'' the draft's 15th pick out of Baylor said after rookie camp practice at FirstEnergy Stadium. "We didn't know it was going to be [so much running]. I feel like we can always be in better shape, even myself.''

He admitted that the pre-draft process got in the way of his conditioning.

"I was gassed from doing a lot of traveling, trying to work out in hotel weight rooms and stuff like that,'' he said. "So it's kind of hard when you're traveling to team visits to the (NFL) combine, just running two 40s and a couple routes. Now it's time to get back into football shape."

Coleman, who had more wind during the second rookie camp practice Saturday at FirstEnergy Stadium, had no problem with Jackson broadcasting his struggles on Friday.

"I never go [against] the truth,'' said Coleman. "A couple of us can get in better shape. It's just we're coming in as rookies and don't know what to expect. When I come back for camp and stuff, I'm going to be fine. If you say that then, then we'll have some problems."

While Jackson wouldn't share what he told Coleman on Friday, the 2015 Biletnikoff winner was open about it.

"He just told me pretty much the sky's the limit for me,'' Coleman said. "He's looking for big things in me. Just I've got to get in better shape. I feel the same way. I feel like I've got to get in better shape. It's going to come by me being out there practicing hard. It's just a great experience to go through the process."

Hue Jackson calls out Coleman for not being in shape

Coleman, who will join the veterans at off-season workouts next week and at full squad minicamp next month, will go harder between now and training camp.

"Right, so now I know what to expect,'' he said. "When I first got here, I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know how practice was going to be. No one knows, and you have to really begin to practice to really understand. So I know what to expect now, and I'm going to be perfectly fine."

Despite the criticism, Coleman had a good two first days of rookie camp, snagging everything thrown by Cody Kessler and tryout Ricky Stanzi, the Mentor native.

"I did way better today,'' Coleman said. "I'm getting better each and every day."

One of four receivers drafted by the Browns, Coleman quickly discovered that football is now his full-time job.

"You gotta make sure you get in your playbook,'' he said. "They're not going to baby you. It's not like the college level. They give you a script, you better know it by tomorrow. If not, you're just not going to play.''

And if you're not in shape, that won't fly either.

Agreed. I'd even go so far as to say any articles saying that Hue was "calling him out" is a gross mischaracterization. Could Hue have worded it a little different, as in "He's not in NFL shape yet?". Sure, but why should he need to? I always thought it was readily assumed, if not an expected fact that the majority of college players aren't in NFL shape when they first show up. A lot aren't even in NFL shape by the end of their first season when you look at how often they talk about a player hitting the "rookie wall" 2/3 through the season. In 2 seasons most of these guys will play as many or more games than they did in 3 and 4 years at teh collegiate level.

I guess controversy, no matter how contrived sells?

I think coaches have learned you can no longer get these guys in football shape during camp. time is just to short. We are gonna be counting on rookies heavily so they better get their ass in gear and show up to camp with tremendous physical conditioning.

as for calling out his team, dont blame him. accepting a loser mentality is what losers do.

Just hope that they can get in shape and continue to workout before the real training camp.

Here is my less than negative spin on the situation. Jackson wanted to send a message to all the rookies. What better "target" than your #1 draft pick? Others will think to themselves, if he's calling out Corey in the press, then conditioning is a absolute must for the rest of us. Coleman then accepts the coaching and responds like a coachable player should. That displays leadership from the #1 draft pick. Demand for accountability responded to with acceptance of accountability = culture change.

I like this.

excellent point

I thought the writer's interpretation was reasonable. He DID throw his coach and players under the bus, then back-pedalled by saying " it's all on me" or words to that effect.

It's not professional to call your assistant coach out like that in the media. But yeah Eotab keep blaming the writer. You do it often and so well.

I concure

To put some prospective on the subject of conditioning. I wonder how many surf and trufs diners does a 1st round prospect get? How many hours/days spent in transit? Add that to the unexpected I can see why these rookies are not quite up to snuff.

Heck I can remember getting to boot camp at Pairs Island thinking that I was pretty well prepared for the grind to come. Ah! No ... Not even close. 13 weeks later ... You bet'cha

I don't hate anybody on this board, I don't think I even dislike anybody except the one guy I have on ignore - and berea - just saying that I don't feel the writer was far off the mark in his assessment of hue's quotes from the press conference.

How relevant is it? Hardly at all, but don't try to put a brown-coloured spin on it just because you're a blatant homer who acts out whenever a poster questions the coaches, FO or players on what has been an abysmal joke of a franchise for 17 freaking years.

Hopefully the new FO is different cuz I am getting old(er), but I ain't holding my breath.

I have no problem at all with Hue insisting on a level of excellence. They should all be performing at a high level all the time. If he can bring that to this team, then it's about time. I'm completely fed up with the half-assed way the Browns have approached football for the past fifteen years.

You wouldn't want to go blue in the face. Oh wait!!! . Just teasing lamp'...

Not relevant much... agreed. Still with the unreasonably homer attitude, your criticism also is reduced in relevance.

As is every post you ever make.

Poor poor berea. Everybody has realized just how much of a troll you are. Your getting desperate and pushing it each and every day. Sorry that you wont be around much longer.

I do not believe anyone who is objective would consider me a "homer" fan.

Swing and a miss

Seems to me there is nothing unreasonable about a "homer attitude"...

lol this went off topic pretty quick...if the players are not offended then we should not be either...Hue said the vets can run all day right now...so he expects the rooks to be able to do the same...no problems there.

I remember when josh Gordon was wanting to get off the field In preseason and the coaches wouldn't let him. I hope we see more of the same

I think all we can draw from the past five years is that to date, Haslam hasn't had the patience to see any plan through and has lacked any ability to hire the right people to build a team. Can this group be different? Yes, that's a possibility. But each regime that's been here has one common theme.... Haslam hired them.

That's really the only common denominator. So far he's 0-2 and he's up to the plate for the third time........... In five years.

I watched Draft Day this afternoon for the first time and the owner reminded me of..... guess who??

If Haslam hasn't learned from his mistakes, hasn't figured out he's not a football genius, then I see little hope. The guy thinks he's running a truck stop where he can just fire the truck stop manager, hire another Joe Schmo every couple years and things will be just fine.

I’m hoping one of the UFA kickers develops into a solid three-down punter.

That’ll keep opposing defenses honest.

That really should be in purple.

How's this?

Agreed. Our numbers crunchers probably do not look favorably at Lee's contract. They have made it a point to spend assets on guys who score touchdowns.