DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Everything Else... Parent's Sing "Jesus Loves Me" to drown out support for trans-gendered bathroom policy

You DO know that many public places already have bathrooms marked: Men. Women: Family. Right?

Not all places do, I know.

To me, this is akin to putting braile on drive thru atms.

That wasn't to brand you racist.

That was to show that you're simple minded solutions don't work with complex problems.

You once again fail to not only grasp that, but to see the bigger picture.

If it was at ALL as simple as you made it to be, then we wouldn't be having this convo because it would've never been brought up.

You once again lack the capability to put yourself in somebody else shoes. To look at things from another perspective.

Pointless.

We're putting ourselves in the shoes of those who have been victimized by these people already.

How many people have been victimized by actual trans people?
That's the thing you seem to not get bro.

Your documentary showed 1 or 2 people who claimed to be trans.

And the one dude, that big ass dude dressed like a chick in court? He got arrested cause chicks was talking trash.

I'm glad he got arrested, but he certainly wasn't a pervert

Every other person in there was a perv

And guess what? There's already laws AGAINST it!!!! What they did was crimes.

You're not putting yourselves in the shoes of actual trans people who don't bother anybody.

You're only putting yourself in a perspective you readily agree with.

Sorry dawg, but that seems close minded to me.

Nah, dude. I put myself in other people's shoes daily. I really do.

In this situation, if you have a penis, you go to the guys room to do your business. Honestly, it's not that hard to follow along, is it?

Oh, what about their rights? They have a right to use the bathroom.

Oh, but they should be allowed to go into whatever bathroom they identify with, right?

Yeah. And they should be able to go into the locker room they identify with, right?

Hell, anybody should be able to do whatever they want, where they want, at any time, right?

I identify today as a millionaire. Wanna loan me some money?

Really, I can't believe asking people with vaginas to go to the womens room, and people with penises to go to the mens room is all that intrusive.

Believe it or not, other people have rights as well. Swish, you're so stuck on being liberal you can't see the wall you're running into.

You have a right to do pretty much what you want - until that right infringes on others rights. Would you agree?

What a stupid argument.

I stopped at the millionaire part.

You make it clear every time you post why I say you're pointless.

Lol, millionaire. Simple minded.

Nah, your inability to see the connection is the simple mindedness. You are stuck in your ways, no doubt, and that's fine. You and your wife make a lot of coin, according to you, and that's great as well. Happy for you. (hey, why were you upside down on your car loan if the 2 of you make so much?)

Lol back to that again?

Kick rocks.

Really?

Well, I do like at least 2 of Kid Rocks songs. Here's one:



And here's another of Kid Rock's songs I like:

Don't trip.

This is arch at his best. Bringing completely off topic things that aren't even actively irrelevant anymore.

This is the part where I take it off arch, and ask the refs this:

So refs, if I respond, I'm the bad guy, right? You'll suspend me, but this guy is free to bring my wife into it with no consequence again, right?

Y'all on this board can run your mouth about me all you want. But you bring my wife into it, I respond, and now I'm the villain again.

Swear to god I feel like JR smith on this board.

There is definitely different rules for different people. Some people constantly bully others and they get away w/it. When those others try to defend themselves, they get suspended. It's BS!

I can't believe he dragged your wife into this. That's out of bounds, man.

That's how it is man.

I have to play by the rules while everybody else don't.

It's all good though bro. You remember what we talked about a month ago on the phone. We do what we do and just deal with it.

Bring your wife into it????? Dude, YOU brought your wife into it. YOU are the one that mentioned your income. You and your wife's. Dude, you posted it, not me.

I mentioned my income in this thread about trans people?

Since when? Which page was that?

There is no need for you to harass Swish about him and his wife's bills. Stop being such a freaking bully!

Vets don't trip.

I took care of that bill months ago, which by the way, I slaughtered cause my credit is so good.

This is arch being arch. Don't worry about it.

No, you mentioned it in a different thread. So, what, what you mention in one thread doesn't apply to others?

I was in no way harassing him about his bills.


You really do have a "bully" issue, don't you?

arch............how would you feel if someone brought your daughter into a debate on this board?

Leave his wife out of it!!!!

It doesn't matter. That has nothing to do with us talking about trans people.

I can say so many rude things right now, but I'm good.

I'll be the grown up. Seeing as the old guy can't.

I'm done addressing you.

Anyway, so to DT:

Y'all gotta understand that you guys gotta stop thinking in terms of pleasing the minority's and think in terms of making sure tax paying citizens have equal rights, no matter if you agree with their lifestyle or not, their still human beings, and they are still Americans.

You did harass him. What does his bills have to do w/transgendered bathrooms?

And yeah........I hate freaking bullies. They are punks. And there are a bunch of them on this board. Always sticking together. Name calling, ganging up on one or two posters. So freaking gutty.

I fought against bullies my entire life. Be a man. Stand on your own and stop ganging up w/others to belittle others.

You still aren't explaining how a cop can enforce this. If I speed, a cop can use a laser gun to verify I was in the wrong before pulling me over. If I jaywalk, a cop can easily cite my offense. Not even NC cops know how to enforce this law, and based on how you aren't answering the question, I can only surmise that you don't either.

http://www.npr.org/2016/05/10/477529266/...er-bathroom-law

Please stop w/the "old guys" argument. Some of us older guys are the most open-minded guys [social issues] on this board. That's a fact, Swish.

And again, I'll ask the simple question: How does requiring males to use the mens room, and females to use the womens room, affect anyone's right to use the bathroom?

I haven't seen one single person say you can't use the bathroom.

I feel you bro.

If a cop alleges you were speeding, he can pull you over.

If you were to question a guy going into a womens room, or locker room, YOU would be the one guilty of a crime.

The way I understand it............if I'm wrong, show me. I love/hate admitting I'm wrong.

Look................I don't think we should have bathroom police. LOL

Let's just be reasonable here. Please? I think that the transgendered population should be given rights. I do not think they should be discriminated against. However, I think that other people have rights, as well.

I think that middle school girls are going through a lot of changes. Many are confused. Many lack self-esteem. Many are suffering from their physical growth racing past their emotional growth.

I think it is important that we keep in mind what these young girls are enduring. I know that some people see younger girls who are flaunting it and seem supremely confident, but that is not the case w/all girls. I think we should consider their rights while we deal w/establishing the rights of our transgendered students.

And I really don't see how any of you can say that is a bad thing......

I get that, but what about the ones going through changes that are really loopy, like the ones who end up being trans?

I don't know how anybody ends up straight, gay, trans. All I know is that at the end of the day, that's what society ends up with.

One reason I've stayed away from the "what about the little girls" is that it's a no brainier....when talking about perverts.

But I'm talking about trans people, because this is who it affects the most. Pervs will be pervs, and they have been before this was a twinkle in anybody's eyes.

But if you got a middle school kid, and he/she starts identifying as a female, like dressing like one and all, are you saying that kid is a perv?

Also, it's not just about younger kids but grown up as well. If somebody walks in with a dress in the men's room, you're gonna be weirded out and go "hey, wrong bathroom".

Or better yet, some person walks in with a beard, Jordan's and talks with a deep voice and goes in the women's bathroom even though he/she doesn't have a dick, the women are gonna freak out because they think it's a guy in the women's bathroom.

But according to you guys, that dude looking chick should use the girls bathroom, and the women in there have to be ok with it.

HOW in the world do you even begin to verify that problem?

More often than not, it's gonna be a person who TRUELY identifies as whatever sex they feel they are, over the pervs in the world.

There is no way in life to prevent anything with 100 percent certainty.

No Swish..........you are misinterpreting what I am saying. I am saying that there are a young females that do not wish to be seen by people w/male body parts. They also do not wish to view male body parts.

I really don't see why it would be so bad to have a Men's locker room, a Women's locker room, and a Locker room?

You can substitute Boy's, Girl's, and bathrooms in for Men's, Women's, and locker rooms.

What's so terrible?

you talking about a unisex bathroom?

I'm talking about all three. Give kids options.

i dont have a problem with options.

i'm against the "my way or the highway" mentality that some are trying to push on people.

That kid in Missouri was offered a unisex bathroom and turned it down.

Me too.............but, it works both ways, bro.

and here come Vers playing the victim role again... pathetic

Great addition to the thread "king."

Awwww sorry, didnt mean to pick on poor little Vers.

At least Swish is a man about his stance, while all you do is cry and whine that everyone is picking on you .

Every time you post I have that Charlie Brown song running through my mind " Whys everybody always picking on me?"

Arch, are you being coy? I'm asking how NC cops can enforce HB2. HB2 explicitly states single sex bathroom facilities: http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E2/Bills/House/PDF/H2v4.pdf

No where in HB2 does it say that questioning a guy going into the womens room is a crime....

#FreeSwish*

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