On a lighter note, Youtube Chris Rock - How not to get your ... kicked by the police!
It's from 2007 but it's still pretty funny. I only mention the year because I don't think a comedian could get away with making such a video in 2016 politically correct culture, but whatever.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Go ahead bro. I'm pretty sure i already know what you're gonna say anyway. But knock yourself out. Let's hear it
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Right here. Let's go. I got my joint lit, ready to debate
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I'm just pissed off today. Found out my aunt got injured in the bombing in instanbul. I don't see a damn thing on FB or nothing, barely ipany attention to that.
But some whites get shot up literally anywhere else, and we gotta stand with them right?
I'm over here doing what I can to bring awareness to crap. I'm taking up for this white due who gets shot. I'm battling with people and bringing awareness to that white kid who got popped by the cop cause he tried to run after buying weed or something like this.
I'm suppose to care about some terrorist attack with a bunch of gay white dudes who got popped.
I'm suppose to care about some kids getting popped in a mass shooting.
But nobody gives a what happens to my people, right?
Everything our fault in this country. Every single time some happens in this country or abroad, always gotta blame some brown or black people.
At this point, I don't have any more empathy to give man. People don't give a damn what happens to us? Fine, I don't give a what happens to you guys either then.
I'm sick of poor whites and minorities being blamed for everything. When everything is going good, nobody gives a about us. When things are bad, we the first people to get blamed.
I'm just fed up about caring. I'm fed with with all these religious people hate mongering. I'm fed up with people wanting civil rights like gays, yet it's like pulling teeth in this country.
Man the reality is that if you're not rich and white nobody gives a about you.
I'm just done man. Some whites get popped in a theater? All well, not my damn problem anymore. , society don't give a damn what happens to me and people that look like me anyway.
Sick of being profiled. Sick of being asked if those are my kids since I'm brown and my kids have my wife's skin tone.
Family member got popped. But nobody on FB sending out prayers and to Turkey, right? Africa get hit, nobody gives a damn.
But I'm suppose to care what happens in Paris. I'm suppose to care what happens in England.
Tired of fighting for people bro. This country don't give a damn about anybody except people with money. Screw everything bro.
I checked the box on American society bro. Yet at the end of the day, I'm just a black man in America, doesn't matter what the hell I do.
Last edited by Swish; 06/29/1609:39 PM.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Sorry about your aunt. Where was she traveling to, or from?
When I heard about the shooting and bombing in Turkey, I was ..........well, bothered I guess.
I couldn't believe you didn't post something about it, as you call Turkey a home land. (obviously, you have family there)
As to your other point, about "every time something happens the brown or black people get blamed"?
I think that may be wrong thinking on your part.
Let's break it down: When some idiot, or idiots, do something bad, I blame them. White, black, brown, whatever color.
Yeah, you should care about some gay people that got "popped". And you should care about why that happened. And most of them weren't white, by the way. So take that angle out of your argument. (that doesn't fit your style though, I know)
Fed up with "all these religious people hate mongering"? Me too.
Again, why didn't you post anything about Turkey?
You seem to be angry. As in, very angry.
Marital issues can exacerbate things as well, if there is any of that going on.
Take a deep breath. (of air), chill. Praying for you.
Now you know why I said what I did in our PM about you Young Guys taking the baton from us Old Guys... and why I choose carefully the points I wish to make- and the threads I choose to join. At the age of 59, my 'social stamina' ain't what it once was.
It's exhausting. And relentless. And our best efforts land on about 3-5% of the ears that need most to hear it. Those are soul-wearying numbers for the effort expended. It wears a man down, after a lifetime of preaching gospel.
Sounds like you're getting older, son. Don't freak- It happens to everyone.
I don't think a person ever becomes less outraged at injustice... not if it's a part of his core makeup. I think he eventually decides to expend his energy when and where it counts... and he can only learn that sense of timing through experience.
I stopped being 'profiled' on the streets when my hair started turning gray- and not a moment before. I've survived at least 50 traffic stops/foot cop inquiries in my life. I've only been issued exactly 4 traffic citations in over 40 years of driving America's streets, roads and interstates. All 4 of those tickets were legitimate, and uncontested by me.
After more contacts with police than most DTers' entire family trees have ever encountered, I truly believe that I'm still here because of two fundamental things:
1. My Pops was a cop... and sat me down at the age of 8, to lay out 'The Black Male's Real-World's Life Challenges In America' for me. He also gave me the truth about how to handle being called out by People In Uniforms.
2. I behave like a well-programmed robot on street stops. My license/reg is on the dashboard, my glove box is open, interior lights are on (during night stops), and my hands are on the wheel. The driver's window is down (even in Winter). "Yes." "No." Short, honest answers. "Yes, you can search my car... because there's nothing for you to find here." "The trunk release is by my left ankle... or I can give you the keys."
It's practiced and rehearsed... and I've used it to good effect ever since I was "a prime (potential) suspect" on EVERYONE'S watch-list.
'Stopcops' hold ALL the power in such instances. My odds of success are MUCH better if I actually live to engage them on a different playing field.
I swallowed/choked down the unfairness of it at the time, because the other guy had a gun that could kill me at the side of a street/road... and a courtroom provides a much safer environment for my mortality.
In order to live to tell one's own story, one must first live to actually see his day in court. Thankfully, my Pops' survival training allowed me to beat tremendous odds... and actually look forward (with confidence) to turning 60 this Sept.
...After 50+ stops.
Swish: I was the male version of Your Baby Girls back in '68, when My Pops got stopped in rural IN. I couldn't have been more than 10-11 at the time. 'Three Aces Moving' was on a run to haul Baldwin pianos back to Porter's Music Store in Lima. About 10 miles from the state border, we got blipped by a 'Country Cop.' I watched My Father and My great uncle Babe 'produce their papers' while I sat in the middle of that Ford 2-ton bench seat. 3 generations of Free American Men Of Color treated like criminals before they were ever considered 'law-abiding citizens.'
The encounter was tense, yo... and it didn't end until My Pops showed that Barney Fife-ass 'County Mountie' his badge/ID wallet from our local PD. Pops played all the right moves that he trained me to play. So did Uncle Babe... and still... nothing made a difference for our Black American Asses until My Pops flashed his official brass. Up to that point, we were just "3 ******* in a stolen truck full of pianos." My young azz got a Real-Life Education that day: Only papers and a badge saved us from being 'tossed into the System' -or worse.
A WW I vet. A WW II vet. ...and their patriotic progeny.
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Istanbul won't get ever get 'equal play' here in The States, because Constantinople isn't Ithica, Itaska, or Islip, USA. That's just how it is... and our country's persona is an extension of how its people think/feel/be/are. Get over it. Your Folks came from somewhere other than Europe. You have a tougher row to hoe. That's how America works.
"In America, you have the same rights to be treated like 'the new kid in school'... until you prove that you have something we all value. Until then, you're on your own. God help you in your new home, rookie."
This is what should be inscribed at the base of the Statue Of Liberty... if we're actually going to Be Real about how things really are.
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Don't give up Your Fight.
What you want for Our Country is no less noble than the ideals of the people who oppose you.
Do what you can... then pass the baton to those who can run for you when you can't run another step. Get smart about what you say- and when.
Uncle Babe passed the baton to My Pops... who passed it on to me. The Clemens Family Name is still alive in Ohio, because we all passed the baton, one to each other... and Ohio is the better for it.
I know that you're becoming tired, My Friend... but there is still much work to be done. America is still trying to become 'a more perfect union' and your baby girls must take the baton from you, if Our American Voice is to be heard.
You're young, Swish... so you may not have heard The Real 411: "The race for Worldwide Social Justice is a relay-race... a marathon- not a one-off sprint."
I wish you luck- as you navigate this world, and train Your Progeny to succeed in this 'New World' that previous generations have dropped into your lap. It will be interesting to look down... and see what you guys make of what you were given....
...when I finally let go of the baton.
Dawg: I NEED you to keep up this speak. I need you to keep shouting, to keep protesting, to keep telling Good Americans how they can become better.
I need you to keep telling 'other Americans' why it's in their best interests to help the people they instinctively mistrust, fear, and loathe...
..because those are the very people who have historically given America its stiffest backbone.
I am the son of 'immigrants.' I am the son of 'immigrants' who came to this continent in iron chains.
...and yet, I was able to break all the rules to advancement, by using every 'rule' that was available to me.
I fought against The Man, at a time when fighting meant almost certain death
I sang my heart out on the steps of America's National Capitol at the age of 15- when Black folk had only been legally been allowed on those grounds for a single generation.
It truly must suck for you to be a 'Progressive In a Retrograde World'... but it's no worse that it was for those of us who set your 'marching orders' up long before you were born.
As a True American, it's your job to take up the baton... and run with it.
Pops told me: "This job won't be easy." I'm telling you the same.
Get strong. Get smart.... and get ready for the fight of your life.
I have the gray hairs to prove it. Your young hairs will get gray, too. Your cause is a lifetime commitment.
Baton: passed.
Don't fk up this fight, Swish: because it isn't over. You ain't done, son.
Elite NYC school teaching kindergartners about 'white privilege'
An elite Manhattan school is teaching white students as young as 6 that they’re born racist and should feel guilty benefiting from “white privilege,” while heaping praise and cupcakes on their black peers.
The program, these parents say, deliberately instills in white children a strong sense of guilt about their race. Some kids come home in tears, saying, “I’m a bad person.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Elite NYC school teaching kindergartners about 'white privilege'
An elite Manhattan school is teaching white students as young as 6 that they’re born racist and should feel guilty benefiting from “white privilege,” while heaping praise and cupcakes on their black peers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_pride In the United States, Asian pride (also spelled AZN pride) is a positive stance to being Asian American. The term arose from influences of hip hop culture within Asian American communities in the Western United States due to the creation of an Asian American pan-ethnicity (the concept was influenced in the late 20th century due to the influence of publications such as Yolk and Giant Robot magazines) that did not specify a specific ethnicity (such as Vietnamese, or Hmong).[1][2] Younger Asian Americans are finding strength from their Asian identity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_pride Gay pride or LGBT pride is the positive stance against discrimination and violence toward lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people to promote their self-affirmation, dignity, equality rights, increase their visibility as a social group, build community, and celebrate sexual diversity and gender variance. Pride, as opposed to shame and social stigma, is the predominant outlook that bolsters most LGBT rights movements throughout the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pride Black pride is a movement in response to dominant white cultures and ideologies that encourages black people to celebrate black culture and embrace their African heritage.[1] In the United States, it was a direct response to white racism especially during the Civil Rights Movement.[2] Related movements include black power,[2] black nationalism,[2] Black Panthers, Afrocentrism, and black supremacism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_pride White pride is a motto primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal racist or racialist viewpoints.
every time you heard white pride until recently...it wasn't normal white people using it, Haus. you know damn well who was the main guys going "white pride".
here's a hint: they weren't best friends with black people or any other minorities. especially jews.
if you're gonna ignore the historical context of it, then i guess you really don't get it.
i've said before, be proud to be white.
but the argument you're making doesn't fit that description.
Last edited by Swish; 07/03/1609:52 AM.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Every day is white history month, and every day is also straight pride day.
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A need for pluralism exists in our country.
Want to know how to do well with oppressed minority groups? Learn from them, lift up the uniqueness of one other than your own, and remove all preconceived notions. But, disregard me as usual. Not like I know a thing or two about this or anything...
I agree, but people around the world don't want unity like that.
Unity means they don't get to feel special anymore. And you know how special snowflakes are.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
every time you heard white pride until recently...it wasn't normal white people using it, Haus. you know damn well who was the main guys going "white pride".
here's a hint: they weren't best friends with black people or any other minorities. especially jews.
if you're gonna ignore the historical context of it, then i guess you really don't get it.
i've said before, be proud to be white.
but the argument you're making doesn't fit that description.
I didn't even make an argument. I just linked to various 'pride' articles and let the difference speak for itself. Maybe you realized how perplexing that difference is and you felt the need to defend it? I don't know.
I would agree with you that it's usually not normal white people who talk about white pride. A lot of them are douchebags. But do you not see the double standard here, whether it be in those wiki articles or how the media covers the various pro-whatever groups? Imagine if some of the white pride groups acted similarly to how Black Lives Matter acts. We had a thread on here about BLM a while back that we could dig up if some examples are needed.
When some of those BLM starts hanging people from a tree, let me know.
Those wikis you listed, you know what the common theme is?
All those minority groups have been oppressed and discriminated against consistently.
And guess by who? The white pride demographic.
I completely forgot the white pride groups hate homos until you brought this up. Interesting.
So, once again, while I don't completely agree with the way BLM operates, you gotta be high to think what they're doing is any where close to what the white pride group has done in this country.
That can't even be debated bro.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Every day is white history month, and every day is also straight pride day.
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A need for pluralism exists in our country.
Want to know how to do well with oppressed minority groups? Learn from them, lift up the uniqueness of one other than your own, and remove all preconceived notions. But, disregard me as usual. Not like I know a thing or two about this or anything...
What minority groups are being oppressed in the United States? I know there have been many awful historical examples but for the sake of discussion, let's talk about in the 21st century.
When I think of oppression, I think more along the lines of being Yazidi, Christian, gay, or even female in ISIS controlled territory. Think mass executions, torture, keeping sex slaves, and all the other nasty things they do to people that don't align with their ideology.
When some of those BLM starts hanging people from a tree, let me know.
Those wikis you listed, you know what the common theme is?
All those minority groups have been oppressed and discriminated against consistently.
And guess by who? The white pride demographic.
I completely forgot the white pride groups hate homos until you brought this up. Interesting.
So, once again, while I don't completely agree with the way BLM operates, you gotta be high to think what they're doing is any where close to what the white pride group has done in this country.
That can't even be debated bro.
I know there is a nasty past there. That part for sure can't be debated, I don't want to debate that, and I wouldn't even try to anyway.
I'm talking now, or at least in the 21st century. It ain't the white pride groups that are committing unprovoked violence against other groups, yet I've posted countless videos on this board of groups like BLM and La Raza doing exactly that to groups that they either don't like or don't agree with. FBO posted his personal experience of exactly that happening to him in California and Arizona.
Show me video of the white pride groups acting like that. You and I don't agree with their message, you and I don't like how they go about their business, but my thoughts are that it's ok to have backwards ideas. It's not ok to assault somebody for having those backwards ideas. Do you understand where I'm coming from?
There are legitimate reasons to have 'white pride' that have nothing to do with putting other people down or anything like that. Start with this: nearly all technological advancements in the world for the last several hundred years have come from England, Germany, France, Italy, and the Anglosphere (primarly white, english speaking countries formerly of the British Empire; the United States happens to also be heavily populated by people with German ancestry). I think that's pretty cool, although somewhat toxic to acknowledge in our political climate. Or look at the most desirable countries to live in and it's pretty much the same thing: countries in western and northern Europe, the Anglosphere, plus 2-3 countries in eastern Asian. Do you think these are things that are ok to acknowledge? I'm honestly not even sure anymore-- not when we're teaching six year olds to feel guilty about being white.
But as I said before, you need to take it into context.
For example:
What you mentioned about tech is very true. Undebatable, I agree.
Now, here's where it gets tricky. You said that last few hundred years.
So let me ask you this: if you're African, what's more important to you- tech advancement, or not watching your people get raped and murdered and enslaved?
If you're Chinese, do you care about tech advancement, or would you rather be free from the British? Same if you're from India.
It's relative bro. People would love you guys a lot for the tech advancement of you didn't pull all the other nonsense.
Also, this country has a history of almost every major issue being violent in nature.
So I don't understand how you can act like this is some new form of protest rioting or whatever.
The BLM learned it from the white pride group.
I told you that before bro, just speaking out and being peaceful has never worked. White pride groups proved that. The government had proven that.
So don't sit there like you're on some sort of high horse.
We tried the peaceful, non violent way. In response, they assassinated MLK.
Peaceful doesn't work. Talking to you doesn't work. Y'all clearly want to learn the hard way. So they are giving you the hard way.
Last edited by Swish; 07/03/1612:38 PM.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
But as I said before, you need to take it into context.
For example:
What you mentioned about tech is very true. Undebatable, I agree.
Now, here's where it gets tricky. You said that last few hundred years.
So let me ask you this: if you're African, what's more important to you- tech advancement, or not watching your people get raped and murdered and enslaved?
If you're Chinese, do you care about tech advancement, or would you rather be free from the British? Same if you're from India.
It's relative bro. People would love you guys a lot for the tech advancement of you didn't pull all the other nonsense.
As I've said on here many times before, I am all for equality and fairness. I strongly disagree with some things that are pushed in the interest of equality, and one example I've used is having different entry standards for college or employment for different races. Some people even find a way to defend that! That's the thing, there is no way you're ever going to find a system that everybody will be ok with. I agree with you that there has been some real nastiness perpetrated by the groups you are talking about (and it still exists to some extent) but man it is frustrating living in a climate where perfectly reasonable things that I think, like what I wrote above, can get lumped in with that nonsense. But I digress.
the fact that you're posting it on DT and not Stormfront.
Are you serious man? Wow. Well thank you for showing your true colors lol. I don't know where that comment came from but I must have rubbed you the wrong way somewhere. Please elaborate.
Do you think that telling minorities to stop talking about pride, while also subversively saying that white people should take pride because of "technological advancements" that only came on the shoulders of the oppressed civilizations and their minority citizens is not continuing the toxic cycles of oppression that grew the minority power movements?
Do you think that telling minorities to stop talking about pride, while also subversively saying that white people should take pride because of "technological advancements" that only came on the shoulders of the oppressed civilizations and their minority citizens is not continuing the toxic cycles of oppression that grew the minority power movements?
I have people coming over so I can't do this right now but I'll make a few points and then I can check in later:
- I never said that minorities should stop talking about pride. I don't care about black history month or gay pride or anything like that. What I don't like is double standards like when the acceptability of some behavior depends on what group the perpetrator belongs to.
- I think it is fine and normal for whites to take pride in "technological advancements" and for building desirable societies to live in, just like it is fine and normal for other groups to take pride in their accomplishments.
- I've never posted on SF; I know what it is as I have poked around there after finding it on a Google search and did not like what I saw. I'm honestly a little floored that you would even say that but whatever.
I'm so very happy that I don't need anyone to tell me to be proud of my ethnicity and race. As a matter of fact, neither do any of my friends who are considered minorities. My friends and I are all just people trying to live our lives the best way we know how.
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