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I haven't really weighed in on this, but I just hope that post isn't what Crowell truly thinks.

I just hope it was a knee jerk reaction to some of the things going on in the world, and that he really doesn't believe that, and isn't just saying so to get himself out of a bad light.

It's just a stupid picture. I don't think he should lose his job or anything like that. I totally understand he has a little bit of a past with his life before Cleveland, but since he has been a Brown, we have only seen positive things. He hasn't been a negative mark on this team. If I'm Hue, or Sashi, or any of the people who are running the team, I'd like to sit down with him, not as an employee, but just as a person, and talk about the picture, and if he truly feels that way.

I try my best to stay out of topics involving the police. I stopped watching videos regardless of whether or not the cop was justified in shooting someone. I'm tired of seeing people die.

I really just hope the country can find a way to come together and work these issues out.

Some of them are a-holes. Usually younger ones who have Type A personalities that a police force looks for. Give them a badge and a gun, it can lead to problems.

I'm not black but I have known the feeling of being profiled. Rarely, but it happened occasionally when i was in my 20s and had long hair and played in a band. I was even assaulted by a cop once. Not a major one but I'm still pissed about it.
That was in Brampton, Ont. where the cops had a bad rep.
I don't think he needed to apologize a second time, but at least it seems to have smoothed things over.
I don't agree with all of your post but you're alright, I'm hearing you.

I'd also like to add that they have to put up and deal with a lot of bad stuff, especially in larger cities but even in smaller urban areas. I can see that at times their nerves can get on edge.

I am not okay w/what he said.

He first says this:



Then comes back w/this:



WTH is that BS?

He lumps ALL cops together and then cries about being profiled himself. Just another selfish, self-absorbed person who assigns blame.

How about we start judging each other as individuals rather than automatically hating entire groups of people?

Your last sentence is a really good one, and while I agree that he shouldn't lump all police officers together and say he hates them all, I also don't think he's being selfish , or trying to assign blame.
Blacks get profiled all the time, man , and i can understand why that would wear on them, especially if they are a good, law-abiding citizen.

and here I thought Vers was so in tune with the black community

I agree. However, as I tried to say earlier..........if they realize that it's wrong to look at an entire group of people in a negative light, isn't it just as wrong to hate ALL cops? Isn't that profiling?

I can assure you that not all black people hate all cops.

You can't fight hate w/hate, lamp. Judge each man according to his actions, rather than the color of his skin, religious preferences, profession, etc.

The truly funny thing about this is that Loomis can't forbid officers from patrolling First Energy.

If I'm Mayor, there would be a whole lotta openings on the force the following day.

And no, I'm not at all siding with Crow on this. he was dead wrong..

Magically after he announces he will donate 1 game check of about $35,000...


It wasn't sincere because it didn't come with a check....


I'm glad too because it would have made you look very petty.. Failing to protect 75,000 fans and a couple thousand others including athletes, coaches, press, vendors, etc because you don't like the way 1 guy voiced his opinion?

This is what happens when you let St00pid do your twitter/instagram posts.

Damn, Crow... use your head for something besides a helmet-filler.

It was the cops that had the bad rep?...

Yes, for being goons.

I am somewhat acquainted with the area, lamp, having attended Sheridan College there for a while. We knew the Brampton/Bramalea area by a different, not complimentary, name...

Ban Smartphones

Smartphone free zones!!

But then how will I find Pokemon?

Who are you poking?

Goons, really...cops see more dead people...shot, stabbed, overdosed, car wrecks, on and on...and yes, with ANY race that doesn't comply with their wishes/training they get nervous...TV cops shows mention job one- come back home alive today- that's reality for every cop....Goons, right....hope you need a cop some day AND they still come. PS fought in two wars and many cops see more action in a year than 80 percent of veterans.

Hopefully someone from the blue team.

Cops in Brampton, when I lived there, had a reputation for thuggery and quite frankly, I experienced it first-hand. Even upstanding citizens thought they were jerks.

jc...

Isaiah Crowell attends funeral of slain Dallas police officer

Posted by Mike Florio on July 18, 2016, 7:47 PM EDT
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Browns running back Isaiah Crowell, whose inflammatory social-media post depicting violence against police prompted a threat from the local law enforcement union to boycott his team’s game, continues to seek redemption and enlightenment in the wake of the incident.

According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Crowell attended the funeral of Patrick Zamarripa, one of the five officers killed in Dallas earlier this month. Sergeant Demetrick Pennie, the president of the Dallas Fallen Officers Foundation, spent eight hours with Crowell on Saturday.

“I am confident that the policing community now has a supporter in Mr. Crowell,” Pennie wrote on Facebook. “Personally, I would like to commend Isaiah Crowell for the courage of principled accountability.”

After Crowell’s apology for posting an image of a police officer’s throat being slashed, the Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association demanded more. Crowell then promised to donate his first game check of the 2016 season to the Dallas Fallen Officers Foundation.

Well done young man.

He's doing the right things. Most seem to have forgiven him. He's still got a little more before I can say I've made mends. He's on the right track though. I hope spending that eight hours and etc in Dallas has helped him see the larger picture, the one that isn't portrayed in the media, and can then pass that along to others.

Reading that his voice was trembling and seemingly was holding back tears went a long way with me. Mistakes are meant to be learned from, even one as deep as his... I feel like he's on the right track.

Be part of the solution and not the problem. We're talking about human life here, the highest of all things precious.

For whatever reason, after seeing him, listening to him, and reading about how he's dealt with it, I actually DO believe in Crow's remorse

Frankly, I'm not sure what more you can ask of him. He made a bone head move....and since he's been with the Browns, that's the only one.

Look at how many chances Manziel got,, can't we give this kid one more?

This was Crow's first mistake as a Brown. He deserves another chance. It was bad taste yes. But, he did do the right thing afterward. Hopefully he has grown from the experience. I hope he has a big season in 2016.

No clue weather the apology and all the other things he's done since are his true feelings or just him doing what he needs to, to keep the NFL cash rolling in ...

What we do know .. Is what he put out there was HORRIBLE especially considering the timing of it ..

He should be cut immediately .. I am ASHAMED TO BE A DAWG FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE .. And this franchise has given us plenty of reasons to be emberassed ..

This guys a POS and that went well beyond all lines .. This would be akin to Tom Brady putting out a pic of a white guy in a KKK hood slitting the throat of a black man ... How long would he be in the league?

The sad part is lamp ... If we were deeper at RB he definetly to would be cut immediately ..

That's why this country is now in the shape it's in ..

PS - to posters like Guard .. KILLING ANYONE IS NEVER JUSTIFIED ... EVER .. The deaths u brought up were HORRIFIC ... But in no way justify MORE KILLING ...

And your premise in your first post is wrong .. YES .. I ALWAYS WANT THE FACTS BEFORE MAKING A JUDGEMENT ON WEATHER A SHOOTING WAS JUSTIFIED OR NOT ... Rushing to judgement is NEVER GOOD when bullets fly ..

There's a big TIME difference between determining weather a shooting was justified or not and determining what a pic on Twitter means ...

The fact you'd try and correlate the two is just one example of why this country is in the dumper ..

I have to call BS on this one Diam.

Actually Mac .. THATS CLEARLY NOT THE CHOICE ... Crow did someth8ng well beyond the line ... His punishment? ... A game check and going to a funeral ..

GM - I could care less what u call it .. But U could have at least said why it's BS ..

This country is upside down .. And this is part of the reason ...

U all have fun blasting me .. If anyone wants to discuss it with me PM me .. I'm not coming back here .. Nothing good can come from it ..

What is popular isn't always right and what is right isn't always popular ...

That saying has never been more true than today ...

Diam is pointing out that you " Reap what you sow " and in this case as in many others ; It ain't good !

I know you could care less I wouldn't expect anything else from you bro.

It's BS because your stating something as a fact that you have no clue about. You have no idea what the front office, or coaching staff feel about Crow as a person or a player.

Diam, I said this before, but I'll say it again here;

Following the 9/11 attacks, I was pretty vicious in my thoughts, and sometimes in my words, regarding the Middle east. When I saw people there celebrating in the streets, and despite that I know several people from that region, my thoughts were extremely "un-Christianly".

I was mad about the attacks, and seeing people killed, and I spouted off. It is not how I feel usually, but in the heat of the moment, and seeing what I saw, I reacted.

It is no different here. Crowell saw what he perceived to be the murder of one of his own at the hands of a cop, and reacted in the heat of the moment. His "heat" lasted for just a few moments, and he took the image down almost immediately, and of his own volition.

I cannot sit in judgment over him, when I have done similar in another situation. He has taken steps to make amends. He has not been in trouble as a member of the Browns, and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Not ready to flush Crow any time soon .. But he has damaged himself in my eye's ( not that he cares , lol ) This Young Black hate crap is not going to solve anything .. Do understand and have empathy , you bet .. But nothing is ever solved by making excuses or pointing fingers .. As the saying goes " Don't fix the blame , fix the problem "

I'll give any youngster the benefit of the doubt when trying to make amends for a stupid mistake. Crow has done much more than just lip service here. We've all done stupid things that we regret at that age. Now if the mistakes are repeated, then the bashing is deserved.

I wonder what the public reaction would be if a white player---let's say Paul Kruger--posted a pic of a guy in all all white robe and hood slashing the throat of some black guy who looked like a gang banger?

Think he would still be on the team? Would people defend him?