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Would it happen in this hypothetical scenario after we were bombarded with images and videos of black gang members killing innocent and unarmed white guys? With no real fear of repurcussions? With a feeling of hopelessness that white people cant escape the persecution?
Come on. That's not even close to the same scenario.
Here's a more accurate comparison:
If after a series of beheadings of white American journalists and overseas civilian workers were posted online by Mideast terrorist organizations and he posted a picture of a white guy doing that to a depiction of an armed middle easterner, what would be the reaction?
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Oh, I think it was a damn good example.
I guarantee you that if a white guy like Kruger posted a pic like the one I mentioned after some brutal gang land killing, the outrage from groups like Black Lives Matter, social media, the mainstream media, the NFL, and the fans would be outraged and it would not go away.
Double standards, steve.
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Riley Cooper did something kinda similar, and he weathered the storm and stayed with the team (iggles) for a couple more years until he got pushed off the end of the roster.
It's not the same thing (yelling what Riley did vs posting what Crow did), but it's in the same ballpark.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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Lol "weathered the storm." He got an 8 figure contract after that.
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Yes, the problem is that white people are punished more harshly than black people.
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In regards to public outcry, such as social media, mainstream media, people protesting, etc...........they are.
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I wonder what the public reaction would be if a white player---let's say Paul Kruger--posted a pic of a guy in all all white robe and hood slashing the throat of some black guy who looked like a gang banger?
Think he would still be on the team? Would people defend him? I'm not really sure anyone is REALLY defending Crowell. I mean, there is nothing to defend about his actions. But what I'm picking up is that some folks feel as if (paraphrasing here) that he's young and did a really stupid thing. What are we supposed to do, hold it over his head forever? I'll venture a guess and say I think he showed his true self with that post. But again, up to this point, as a pro, he's been a model citizen (yes, I'm aware of his college issues). I can't speak for any one else really, but I'm ready to move past this. If he does it again, or if the powers within the Browns see a larger issue (because they see him everyday), then what happens to him, happens.
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If he responds with some type of stellar year , all will be forgiven .. Shame , but that's the Country right now .. Nothing else really matters , now dose it ?
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In regards to public outcry, such as social media, mainstream media, people protesting, etc...........they are. That's a pretty good trade for the whites.
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I was more referring to the media poopstorm that raged for a couple weeks after that hit.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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I have already forgiven him. Made that quite clear earlier in the thread. I was addressing the people who were getting on Diam's case and that people wouldn't be so willing to look the other way if it was a white guy who posted something similar.
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In regards to public outcry, such as social media, mainstream media, people protesting, etc...........they are. That's a pretty good trade for the whites. Yeah, that's the ticket. Let's right wrongs by committing more wrongs. And, of course, ALL whites are guilty of harming blacks. Let's lump them all together, shall we? Gotta love genius problem solvers!
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Just in another thread you made the claim that blacks were cool with gang violence.
You can't even practice what you preach. Which is why nobody is taking you seriously.
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I wouldn't expect the likes of you to understand.
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Browns say “grave disappointment” in Crowell, but he’s making necessary steps Posted by Zac Jackson on July 28, 2016, 12:22 PM EDT The since-deleted Instagram post showing a police officer’s throat being slashed made by Browns running back Isaiah Crowell was the first topic of conversation at the team’s pre-camp press conference on Thursday. The public message from Browns coach Hue Jackson and executive vice president of football operations Sashi Brown was that Crowell is taking necessary steps to make up for his mistake. “It starts with grave disappointment in the action in the first place,” Brown said. “But to his credit, [after it happened] he called both Hue and I on his own to be accountable. Obviously, it was a huge mistake but he has taken steps at least at the outset that he should.” Crowell quickly issued a formal apology, and the Browns released a statement that said “just an apology” would not be enough. Crowell later attended the funeral of one of the police officers killed in Dallas earlier this month and pledged his first game check to the Dallas fallen officers’ fund. Jackson said he understands Crowell may deal with more backlash from fans as camp opens — “rightfully so,” Jackson said — but said Crowell will continue to work “at making it right” and showing remorse. “I truly believe this is not who Isaiah Crowell is,” Jackson said.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...ecessary-steps/The since-deleted Instagram post showing a police officer’s throat being slashed made by Browns running back Isaiah Crowell was the first topic of conversation at the team’s pre-camp press conference on Thursday.
The public message from Browns coach Hue Jackson and executive vice president of football operations Sashi Brown was that Crowell is taking necessary steps to make up for his mistake.
“It starts with grave disappointment in the action in the first place,” Brown said. “But to his credit, [after it happened] he called both Hue and I on his own to be accountable. Obviously, it was a huge mistake but he has taken steps at least at the outset that he should.”
Crowell quickly issued a formal apology, and the Browns released a statement that said “just an apology” would not be enough. Crowell later attended the funeral of one of the police officers killed in Dallas earlier this month and pledged his first game check to the Dallas fallen officers’ fund.
Jackson said he understands Crowell may deal with more backlash from fans as camp opens — “rightfully so,” Jackson said — but said Crowell will continue to work “at making it right” and showing remorse.
“I truly believe this is not who Isaiah Crowell is,” Jackson said.
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Human condition, more wrongs to fix stuff...one of my problems is double standard with N word- in schools/street blacks use N word repeatedly, but its crime if white uses it...another wrong, JMHO, telling folks that building a wall to keep desperate people out of country-KNOWING they'll tunnel under is WRONG...just telling people what they want to hear vs a solution....money talks/BS walks- Crow needs to honor his game day check pledge AND work in community to foster better Cop/intercity relations......GO Browns!!!!
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Isaiah Crowell donates paycheck to Dallas Fallen Officer FoundationBen Rohrbach,Shutdown Corner 15 hours ago As promised, Cleveland Browns running back Isaiah Crowell donated his first game paycheck to the Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation as penance for posting a “disturbing and unacceptable” drawing on Instagram of a hooded man slashing a handcuffed and kneeling police officer’s throat in July. “I said I was going to do it and I wanted to follow through,” Crowell reluctantly told Cleveland.com upon being pressed about the $35,300 donation he issued to the foundation. Crowell quickly deleted the Instagram photo, which can be found here (requisite graphic warning), shortly after posting it on July 6 to protest police shootings of black men Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, La., and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minn. The following day, five Dallas police officers were killed by a rogue gunman at the end of a peaceful Black Lives Matter protest in the city. “We have spoken to Isaiah regarding his extremely disturbing and unacceptable social media decision,” the Browns said in a statement at the time. “It was completely inappropriate and we have made him aware of our high level of disappointment. Isaiah has apologized but also knows that just an apology is insufficient and that he must take steps to make a positive difference after a very negative and impactful post.” Showing remorse for his action, Crowell pledged to donate a paycheck to the Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation and soon accepted an invitation from the organization’s president, Dallas Police Department Sgt. Demetrick Pennie, to attend the funeral of slain DPD officer Patrick Zamarripa. “In response to the public backlash, Mr. Crowell pledged to make a donation to the Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation, of which I am the president of,” Pennie wrote on Facebook in July. “In an effort to show the progressiveness and professionalism of the Dallas Police Department, its officers, and its affiliated police support organizations, I reached out to Mr. Crowell and expressed a disinterest in his money. Rather, I told him that I did want an opportunity to educate him about the policing profession and the meaning of police service and sacrifice.” Browns running back Isaiah Crowell made a sizable donation to the Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation. (Getty Images) Browns running back Isaiah Crowell made a sizable donation to the Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation. (Getty Images) Three months later, Pennie also accepted Crowell’s $35,300 check — one-seventeenth of the NFL’s second-leading rusher’s $600,000 base salary — made out to the Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation. “I said, ‘Isaiah, why did you send me a check? I told you you didn’t have to send me a check,”’ Pennie told Cleveland.com on Wednesday. “He said, ‘Sarge, I want to do it. I really want to do it.’ I said, ‘okay, alright, you will now be an executive level sponsor. So now, you are a celebrity sponsor of the Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation.’… “Isaiah is like my little brother,” added Pennie. “He’s a long-term sponsor, not necessarily in terms of money, but he’s going to be involved with my foundation, and how I engage him with my widows, and my fallen officer families. That’s where this is going.” Notably absent from the sergeant’s comments, which partially claimed credit for Crowell’s success this season in addition to detailing his advice to the running back about not protesting the National Anthem, was a discussion of the separate police brutality issue that sparked Crowell’s outrage. Pennie, who is black, filed a lawsuit this month against Black Lives Matter, the National of Islam, President Barack Obama, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and other high-profile figures for inciting the violence that led to the death of police officers and other law enforcement. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/isaiah...-213944703.html
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Yeah. The kid screwed up but he is handling the adversity admirably.
I am very impressed w/Crow and wish him all the best.
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Yeah. The kid screwed up but he is handling the adversity admirably.
I am very impressed w/Crow and wish him all the best. Ditto. To where he was 3 months ago to now? Wow
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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quote above by 'tool:
"The kid screwed up but he is handling the adversity admirably."
He brought "the adversity" on himself. He should handle it "admirably".
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What do you mean when you call me "tool?"
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I'm happy that Crow kept his word and handed over the cash.. that's great. Admirable.
He did get himself into this and I do hope he learned a little something from it. If he did learn, then that's the golden nugget...
Not sure I understand why this Pennie guy is suing the President and the Democratic Candidate for President.. I get the BLM. I don't understand nation of Islam either.
I guess I must of missed their relevant contributions to this mess.
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Yeah, there are rules against name calling.
Back to Crow, I am proud of him in that he owned up to what he did, and has really taken steps to atone for it.
It could not have been easy to send away a whole game check. No one made him do it though, and he kept his word. He did something that was horribly wrong, but he took the post down almost immediately, and he has done everything he said he would to. That shows a developing maturity.
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quote above by 'tool:
"The kid screwed up but he is handling the adversity admirably."
He brought "the adversity" on himself. He should handle it "admirably". The problem is, most don't. So in comparison, Crow's response has been a pleasant surprise
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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J/C...
Had the Browns released him two seconds after he posted what he did, it would have been one second too late IMO.
It disgusts me seeing him in a Browns uniform every Sunday.
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J/C...
Had the Browns released him two seconds after he posted what he did, it would have been one second too late IMO.
It disgusts me seeing him in a Browns uniform every Sunday.
you're definitely entitled to your opinion. just a question: do you feel the same about Jim Brown for his past? Or is there something about Crow that bugged you most?
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Don't care. Emotional post of a meme. In the social media era, we see what people think at their ugliest and most volatile moments. Most football players are dumb anyway (don't know whether Crow is or isn't). I just can't carry the expectation that they're supposed to be high level critical thinkers 24/7. I'll get concerned if anyone's actions ever get violent or malicious.
Dude's balling out now. Good to see something on the field going right.
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He made a poor decision. We ALL do. However, what separates people is what they do as they move forward. Do they blame others and make excuses, or do they work hard to make amends?
Crow has rectified a poor decision by making a series of classy moves. I applaud the guy!
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Most people deserve a second chance. The way Crow has behaved since the incident shows that he was deserving of a second chance. I think there are a lot of lessons to be learned in just Crow's incident from why he did it to how he was allowed the opportunity to atone for it and how he embraced that opportunity.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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He made a poor decision. We ALL do. However, what separates people is what they do as they move forward. Do they blame others and make excuses, or do they work hard to make amends?
Crow has rectified a poor decision by making a series of classy moves. I applaud the guy! I agree, he apologized, attended funerals and did like he said he would and donated his first game check. Classy way to make up for it.
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM my two cents...
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