DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Will this team ever have "teeth"?

Admist all the talk about the change Hue Jackson is attempting to bring to the team....
I want to know when if ever the Browns will ever have
A identity on par with rest of the AFC North
A team that actually protects and stands for its QB when
He's cheap shotted.
A team that can go 12 Rds with another team and the other team knows it was in a battle.
A team that can actually win at home more than twice a year?
Talent is great and all along with schemetics
But it's meaningless if you can't physically match up with a team and then have them mentally beaten
The Browns have been a soft franchise on the field since 1999...
Can Hue change that ?

Not until a QB is found.

Well, there were complaints of Oakland being a dirty team while Hue was in Oakland and the Bengals are the dirtiest team in the entire NFL, so one could expect to see more of what you are talking about. However, I don't know if dirty equates to tough.

I'll settle for talent, execution and wins. We start seeing some of that, maybe they'll stop acting like the stray dogs of the league.

I don't know if dirty equates to Hue's coaching style. I think tough does tho.

Of course you don't.........and do.

LOL ... can't blame you for the snarky reply back. But you did make the claim that Hue had much to do with Oak and Cincy to perpetrate dirty play. I highly doubt it. But whatever.

Oakland has had or was in the running for most penalized team long before and after Hue was there. Saying Hue was responsible for them being dirty because he coached a dirty team for a year is lazy.

Cinci's defense is dirty. I'm not so sure about their offense.

I'm not sure how anyone can come to a conclusion either way on how much intensity Hue will pump into this team.

I did? Can you show me that quote, please?

Hue's a dirty coach because Al Davis literally spent a decade trying to recreate the attitude the Raiders had in the 80's with far less talented players? Hue's a bad coach because he took a 4-12 team to 8-8? Hue didn't make Andy Dalton, but no mention of his tutelage of Flacco and Palmer? I think Browns fans haven't seen a head coach in so long they forgot what one looks like. I'm not sure if some would be able to tell Bill Belichick apart from a hobo in a torn hoodie.

Palmer was horrible on the Raiders when Jackson was the head coach.

That's not how I remember it. Palmer was horrible for the Bengals that year, was traded, and played respectable until he got injured (off the top of my head). He was battling injuries all year, iirc.

My mistake. I was confusing his first stint with the Bengals as a QB coach instead of a WR coach. I don't really remember much of Palmer's stint in Oakland besides the fact he was throwing it to DHB, who might be the only player that's worse at catching the ball than Greg Little, and an old TJ Who'syourmama. Could that have had something to do with Palmer's slump? Not to mention they got him midyear.

The Raiders got Palmer around week 5 6 in that trade where Hue gave the Bengals 2 FIRST RD DRAFT PICKS!!
I think Palmer did well considering he had to.learn new offense wrs etc

Well, it doesn't.

You never stop.

I've gritted and ground my teeth so much over this team. I, like the Browns, will never have teeth again. :-)

I guess you didn't really actually claim it. Sorry I just took it that way when you implied, hinted, insinuated, and even indicated that Hue was with two separate teams that played dirty and one should expect to see more.

I never said he was dirty.

Is it sad that I'm just hoping we can finally run a screen proficiently?

I can barely remember any good screens in general

we rarely run them. I think Duke will see a fair share this season tho.

I love screens. Devaststing play. Center screen is especially so, but not with us much.
Sweeps and screens seem underused (or under-attempted). Not sure we can run either one. But the way we have seen the box loaded up and have seen extra blitzing, we could use some misdirection calls to help slow it down or help us a bit. Haven't had much success with that. More screens, please.

there were only three teams since 99 that I consistently felt "yeah, we are gonna drive down and score here"

- During the 1st half of the season with Brian Hoyer
- During Anderson/Edwards/Winslow Era for the one season
- During the playoff run in 02

Thread went from "teeth" to our O, OK, I'll mention I haven't seen many pitchouts/laterals, like Jim Brown ran...outflanking the D....Go Browns!!!

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Cute....then someone will complain their gums look funny...GO Browns!!!!